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Faith is not a good thing
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Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
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I've had this same thought since I was a young lad being forced to attend church. I think faith in yourself is great, but faith in fairy tales, saviours, and so on, is ignorant and likely just fear of death manifesting.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#18922099 - 10/02/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Open question: Would you weigh someone elses repeatable evidence more than your own personal experience?
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Faith in, trust in; some relinquishing of attachment?
outcome may not be believed 100%, but faith suggests where one might put their trust... they may eventually be let down, or the situation may not be provable, but in the moment at least, that's where the trust is placed. It could be a way of releasing attachment or further thought. I guess it depends on the individual and where they place their faith or how they view faith.
It seems by most definitions faith is a strong belief... but when I say I have faith in something I don't really feel like I have absolute belief that it is or would be so... but more of a hopeful trust. Maybe I use faith incorrectly...
If I say I have faith a situation will work out, it's more of an optimistic stance than a concrete belief.
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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Yes, as stated in the op I would agree.
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Shut up you party pooper! Your just being Negative
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Withinity]
#18924676 - 10/03/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Faith doesn't kill people, People kill people.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
Thats not what Christians say, they must be retarded...
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Yogi1] 1
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If you don't think faith is a good thing, why come to a forum like this? Is there no place on the internet where atheists and skeptics can gather and enjoy poking fun at people like me? Is it really necessary for them to come to a place specifically intended for people of faith to gather?
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Yogi1]
#18928396 - 10/03/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
Thats not what Christians say, they must be retarded...
I am one of those retarded Christians. I am so stupid that it takes me 3 hours to watch 60 minutes.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
I'll take your word on that.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: The Phleg]
#18929076 - 10/04/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well played.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: cez]
#18929190 - 10/04/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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to have faith, to be faithful means to be committed. god is a spirit. a spirit is composed of abstract intangible ideas. being faithful in supernatural things for selfish reasons such as what happens to YOU when YOU die is actually pretty hard. but being faithful to truth and love is a righteous undertaking. it means having integrity
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: The Phleg]
#18929195 - 10/04/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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pyrate999 said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
I'll take your word on that. 
Haha there is actually evidence that people of faith live slightly longer and get fewer diseases according to a program i recently watched on the history channel. Of course atheists can find non supernatural reasons for this but it does call it question whether it is really so retarded.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate] 1
#18929585 - 10/04/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deviate said: If you don't think faith is a good thing, why come to a forum like this? Is there no place on the internet where atheists and skeptics can gather and enjoy poking fun at people like me? Is it really necessary for them to come to a place specifically intended for people of faith to gather?
I don't think he's poking fun at you in particular. At least I hope he's not. Or if he his I hope that's not the sole intent of his post.
If there is only one kind of "spirituality" in this world, (your kind) then I suspect spirituality is not in reality, valid for humanity at large. Spirituality must, imo be an inherent part of the human psyche for it to be valid imo. If that is true then everyone expresses spirituality according to their nature and there is no us and them.
If you find his posts offensive you can put him on ignore, solving your issue immediately.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
Its not like there isn't evidence, there is evidence you just have to keep your eyes open. If there's a Satan then there is a God, its automatic proof that God exists and the Bible is true.
That's the negative view of it, the scary one. There are other, positive and scientific proofs of God. Watch this documentary for scientific proofs of God:
Edited by SpiritualWarrior (10/04/13 04:29 AM)
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I've never ever seen a shred of real evidence of a Satan. And I don't see how it follows that if there were one there would have to be a god.
And posting a two hour video as evidence is over the top imo. Can you link to specific places/times in the video where it addresses this issue?
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Deviate said: If you don't think faith is a good thing, why come to a forum like this? Is there no place on the internet where atheists and skeptics can gather and enjoy poking fun at people like me? Is it really necessary for them to come to a place specifically intended for people of faith to gather?
I don't think he's poking fun at you in particular. At least I hope he's not. Or if he his I hope that's not the sole intent of his post.
If there is only one kind of "spirituality" in this world, (your kind) then I suspect spirituality is not in reality, valid for humanity at large. Spirituality must, imo be an inherent part of the human psyche for it to be valid imo. If that is true then everyone expresses spirituality according to their nature and there is no us and them.
If you find his posts offensive you can put him on ignore, solving your issue immediately. 
Yes everyone expresses spirituality according to their nature, but putting one's faith in logic and reasoning is not spirituality, it is logic and reason. Don't get me wrong, logic and reason are good things. They are gifts from the Lord. Faith is another gift from the Lord, but it is a different gift from logic and reasoning ability.
It's not a question of me being offended, it's a question of the topic of the forum. There is a reason I don't post mushroom growing questions in the psychedelic experience forum. That reason is that the purpose of the psychedelic experience forum is to discuss psychedelic experiences. In a similar way, the philosophy forum is the place to discuss what can be known through logic and reasoning. This is the spirituality and mysticism forum, which was created for the discussion of things that fall outside the realm of that which can be understood purely through logic and reason. Hence, posting threads elevating logic and reasoning here is no different from me posting mushroom growing questions in the psychedelic experience forum. Off topic threads may not bother you but I still have every right to point out that these kinds of threads are off topic. Of course he's not poking fun at me personally, but at religious and spiritual people clearly, of which I fall under the umbrella. That's not what bothers me though, I don't mind being made fun of. I just don't want this forum to turn into another atheist vs theist/materialist vs spiritualist battleground. That debate is so old and boring and never gets anywhere because of the very fact that so called mystics cannot communicate to skeptics the content of their experiences. Words simply are not adequate means to convey spiritual truth to non believers because words function at the level of the mind and God/your absolute being is beyond the mind.
So when i describe a mystical experience in words, you form a mental image from what I say and then try to decide whether that image is true or false by comparing it to other mental images. Can't you see how futile that is? You're never going to get beyond the mind that way. You have to turn your attention inward and find out where the "I" comes from. WHat put's the "I" in "I AM"? THat is the question. You can't have your mind wandering constantly, because then it colors your reality and you live in the mind instead of in Christ. Christ is the eternal consciounses ever present but currently being obstructed by your wandering mind.
Logic can actually help us here. Just think, can you think of a time when it was any time other than now? No. It's always now. Heaven, hell, earth, the shroomery, none of them appear by themselves. They are all dependent on you. You are the constant. You are the one who goes to these various places. The places change, your mind and body change, but you, your true essence, the one who is aware of all the changes, does not change.
And thats all spirituality is about. Just be fully aware of the present moment. Atheists are always looking for God somewhere else, by using logic they invoking the past and future. No wonder they can't find God. He is always right there, in the one place you never thought to look. The present moment. Thats why a book was written called the power of now. But I digress.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: I've never ever seen a shred of real evidence of a Satan. And I don't see how it follows that if there were one there would have to be a god.
And posting a two hour video as evidence is over the top imo. Can you link to specific places/times in the video where it addresses this issue?
Well, because Satan was a fallen angel created by God then I would assume that finding out he really existed would be a pretty good indicator God exists. Otherwise I don't see where you're getting a fallen angel from, angels don't grow on trees.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
Thats not what Christians say, they must be retarded...
I am one of those retarded Christians.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18930103 - 10/04/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But no one has found him right? Is the devil(s) only part of the christian mythology? I'm not so sure.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18930113 - 10/04/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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And yes I agree that his thread does not really belong in this forum.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
#18930128 - 10/04/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I usually dislike the troll op but he's been cracking me up on this forum
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18930133 - 10/04/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes everyone expresses spirituality according to their nature, but putting one's faith in logic and reasoning is not spirituality, it is logic and reason.
Well there are plenty of humans who excessively claim to use logic and reason for living out this life. That then would have to be their form of spirituality. Other wise they would have none to express according to their nature. Personally I think logic and spirituality are intertwined. The way you use them is personal.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
#18930171 - 10/04/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel the fact still stands that nothing divine or demonic has not, and never has been proven. What we have are words of men, books written of men, and men lie. 
I neither believe or deny god, but I believe religion is the wrong way to be closer to him/her/it. Dogma, doctrine-- dumbassery.
Personal thought is all you need, you need not believe anything from the past or that has been written in the past, these are simply personal beliefs of those writing them(or the collective ideas of that era) Nothing has ever been written in the bible, or any religious book, which is confirmed fact. Its just words of men.
(I haven't been keeping up with the arguments, excuse that)
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Tmethyl]
#18930235 - 10/04/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well we all base our thoughts on the culture that created us so to speak so no one really comes up with anything out of whole cloth but that doesn't mean I disagree with your main idea here.
I think disengaging from religions is usually a good thing and a positive step in many peoples spiritual growth. The problems with most religions is that you are expected to take all of it rather than cherry picking the parts that really resonate with you. And lets be honest and admit that there is a lot of nastiness associated with many religions and I for one don't want to be associated with any of that ugliness. It's the antithesis of my spirituality.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Faith implies hope Hope implies doubt.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: LysergicX7]
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
#18930552 - 10/04/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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One thing I struggled with when I tried to follow Christianity was that "god created you" And some choose not to believe in god due to the lack of reasoning and evidence. If god made them, and gave them a reasoning mind, why would believing in something unseen be considered bad? That's what reasoning is. That is like me making a robot them sending him to hell because he followed the code that I programmed/input into him. And if god created broken people, than he makes mistakes and is not omnipotent. So many logical contradictions. Like God created the universe but he couldn't write his own book(bible) he "spoke through men" lol.
So I just live, there is no wrong or right, just be you, that's it. Follow your desires. Harm none, do what ye will. You know what's good and bad, nobody needs to tell you.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: I've never ever seen a shred of real evidence of a Satan. And I don't see how it follows that if there were one there would have to be a god.
And posting a two hour video as evidence is over the top imo. Can you link to specific places/times in the video where it addresses this issue?
OMG!!! No SATAN!!! OMG!!!
I was huffing liquid paper thinner in a plastic bag when I was a kid and all of a sudden the wall went roooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and two hairy demons from a different world jumped through and I screamed and screamed.
My mom and friend ran up the stairs and said I was possessed..... yeah....
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: eve69]
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So once upon a time there was a talking snake and some magic fruit and a chick got turned into a baby killer for riding cowgirl because it pissed off the fairy that made the universe in 6 days
"But he loves you" Carlin
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OrgoneConclusion said: Believing in things for which there is no evidence is NOT commendable. It is ignorant and retarded.
That's blind faith. I have faith in my wife. She's faithful. So am I. It's a good thing -- a building block of the monogamo
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: Yes everyone expresses spirituality according to their nature, but putting one's faith in logic and reasoning is not spirituality, it is logic and reason.
Well there are plenty of humans who excessively claim to use logic and reason for living out this life. That then would have to be their form of spirituality. Other wise they would have none to express according to their nature. Personally I think logic and spirituality are intertwined. The way you use them is personal.
If you define spirituality as one's approach to life, but traditionally spiritually has been understood to mean one's approach to the divine. Those who deny the existence of the divine are not consciously spiritual. Of course, us being spiritual beings, they are still spiritual whether they realize it or not. For example, my father who is an atheist has told me that he gets "spiritual" feelings when he looks out over the ocean. That is his spirituality, but that is something different from the logical, ordered approach he takes in other areas of his life. And I am not saying spirituality must be illogical, only that it is something different from a conclusion based on logic. When my father gets a spiritual feeling from the ocean, I am pretty sure it is not resulting from the intellect, but coming from the heart. Perhaps that clarifies the difference. Spiritual matters are matters of the heart. Doesn't mean we can't analyze the heart using logic, but the heart is not something which is arrived at through logic. It's something we have in addition to our logical intellect.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: But no one has found him right? Is the devil(s) only part of the christian mythology? I'm not so sure.
Many people throughout history have had encounters with demons/devils myself included. Unfortunately, these encounters are not easily reproducible, hence they hold no credibility in modern thought.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
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I have no idea how to reply to that.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18933043 - 10/04/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you define spirituality as one's approach to life, but traditionally spiritually has been understood to mean one's approach to the divine.
Well logic is my approach to the divine. My logic informs me of what an incomprehensible experience I'm involved in and I'm awed by that. For some it might be mathematics. To each his own brother. Be open to other ways of perceiving the divine. Tradition can keep one from progressing as much as it can inform.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
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Icelander said: But no one has found him right? Is the devil(s) only part of the christian mythology? I'm not so sure.
Many people throughout history have had encounters with demons/devils myself included. Unfortunately, these encounters are not easily reproducible, hence they hold no credibility in modern thought.
I saw a flying spaghetti monster.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: If you define spirituality as one's approach to life, but traditionally spiritually has been understood to mean one's approach to the divine.
Well logic is my approach to the divine. My logic informs me of what an incomprehensible experience I'm involved in and I'm awed by that. For some it might be mathematics. To each his own brother. Be open to other ways of perceiving the divine. Tradition can keep one from progressing as much as it can inform. 
Why do you need logic to inform you of what you are experiencing? Is it not possible to experience something without thinking about it?
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said: Open question: Would you weigh someone elses repeatable evidence more than your own personal experience?
That would be ignorant and retarded
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18934861 - 10/05/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deviate said:
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Icelander said: If you define spirituality as one's approach to life, but traditionally spiritually has been understood to mean one's approach to the divine.
Well logic is my approach to the divine. My logic informs me of what an incomprehensible experience I'm involved in and I'm awed by that. For some it might be mathematics. To each his own brother. Be open to other ways of perceiving the divine. Tradition can keep one from progressing as much as it can inform. 
Why do you need logic to inform you of what you are experiencing? Is it not possible to experience something without thinking about it?
People make a mistake thinking the brain and heart are different. The brain experiences the most inward nuance of what the heart feels. Intelligence isn't actually a brain function at all. It's a condition of the heart which is what gives emotions meanings. Meanings which we must act upon. Thoughts in the brain go on like gas in the stomach. In fact maybe you fed your brain high quality food. Thought is still the result. One might make a mistake that because their mind is fizzy that means they are more something - smart, spiritual, sexy, whatever, but those are thoughts, and they came and they went. What remained was what they felt like to the heart. When your heart opens to goodness and you can relax then you know intelligence is a maze. Only the heart holds the key.
So to reiterate - logic though a thing of the mind is rooted in the heart which is where real discrimination comes from.
The rest is just the farts of the brain.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18934867 - 10/05/13 05:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deviate said:
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Icelander said: If you define spirituality as one's approach to life, but traditionally spiritually has been understood to mean one's approach to the divine.
Well logic is my approach to the divine. My logic informs me of what an incomprehensible experience I'm involved in and I'm awed by that. For some it might be mathematics. To each his own brother. Be open to other ways of perceiving the divine. Tradition can keep one from progressing as much as it can inform. 
Why do you need logic to inform you of what you are experiencing? Is it not possible to experience something without thinking about it?
It may be but then you could never ever talk about it or share it and that's pretty obvious to anyone who uses logic consciously. Like I said before if you are going to make sense of any experience or share it you have to define it with logic and that's where the problem arises for many people. They subjectively interpret some experience according to their emotional needs and desires and then make claims as to it's validity. Their logic is faulty.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Icelander]
#18934873 - 10/05/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You used logic in the present tens: " My logic informs me of what an incomprehensible experience I'm involved in". I am saying, is it perhaps possible to experience something fully without thinking about the fact that you are experiencing it? That is not the same thing as thinking about it later on, so it would not prevent you from sharing it.
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Re: Faith is not a good thing [Re: Deviate]
#18934998 - 10/05/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do that all the time. Everyone does, we don't think about everything our body/mind experiences. And when you share it later you interpret that experience as I pointed out, with all the inherent emotional pitfalls therein.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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