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AmongUs
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Small Fruits
#18919928 - 10/02/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have had 2 unsuccessful grows. I watched RR's video and tried #3. I got 40g dried out of this grow and I consider it a major success but I was disapointed with the size of the fruits and hopefully somebody can help. I used the BRF cake tek for all of my grows so far. All the cakes stayed in the jars for 7-10 days after colonization.
I got awesome pinning. I counted over 70 pins on one cake. Some aborted but on my first flush I was averaging around 40 mature fruits. The problem is that they were so small. One cake, that produced 40+ fruits, weighed a total of 3 dry grams (avg .07 each). The biggest fruit I got out of the first flush weighed about half a gram. The second flush was better for size but I got much less pins. Second flush each cake got 3-5 fruits that were much bigger but still small. The largest fruit I got out of the grow was 1.2g dry. I discarded after 2 flushes.
How do you get bigger fruits? I read about stacking cakes on top of each other to increase size but couldn't find much about it. Is it just something you have to deal with when using cakes? Does casing give more massive fruits? I know that the small ones taste just as good or better than big ones but I grow for fun and it is more fulfilling to grow big beautiful mushrooms than little tiny ones. Thank you to anybody that offers me any solutions
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Re: Small Fruits [Re: AmongUs]
#18919944 - 10/02/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just genetics. When you get a bigger pinset they're more likely to be of smaller stature and you're likely to get a few more aborts. The cake can only support so much.
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bodhisatta 
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It's mostly genetics as said above. With so many pins on a cake you'll likely get aborts sometimes bottom watering helps(look it up). If you want bigger fruits you'll have some luck if you buy a PC and do something like Rye spawned to coir+verm.
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AmongUs
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Have any of you heard that stacking the cakes on top of each other increases fruit size? I definitely read that somewhere but I cannot remember where (it was on this site).
Also what do you think about this.... if I am getting too many pins on a cake picking some when they are babies. My idea is if I pick 50% of the pins off then the ones left will be 50% bigger. Is that a sound theory or will it cause some unforeseen misfortune?
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Re: Small Fruits [Re: AmongUs]
#18920065 - 10/02/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stacking accomplish nothing. Also picking half the pins will most likely equal out weight wise. Ie: larger fruits but less of them might equal smaller fruits but more of them.
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Re: Small Fruits [Re: AmongUs]
#18920066 - 10/02/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
AmongUs said: Thanks for the replies guys.
Have any of you heard that stacking the cakes on top of each other increases fruit size? I definitely read that somewhere but I cannot remember where (it was on this site).
Also what do you think about this.... if I am getting too many pins on a cake picking some when they are babies. My idea is if I pick 50% of the pins off then the ones left will be 50% bigger. Is that a sound theory or will it cause some unforeseen misfortune?
If you stack a cake you should put foil between the two otherwise the bottom cake will get soggy. I wouldn't see this making anything bigger. Either way if your cakes was destined to make 30grams wet then it's going to make 30grams wet which isn't going to happen as one or two huge fruits.
If you pick the pins off they'll just be aborts not on your cake. If some of them were going to abort any way taking them off your cake isn't going to help the ones that were not going to be aborts out anyway. I would think even if you plucked all but one pin off that wouldn't become a super pin it's genes are already selected and there's only so much a small cake can do.
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Re: Small Fruits [Re: AmongUs]
#18920108 - 10/02/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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AmongUs said:
I got awesome pinning. I counted over 70 pins on one cake. Some aborted but on my first flush I was averaging around 40 mature fruits. The problem is that they were so small. One cake, that produced 40+ fruits, weighed a total of 3 dry grams (avg .07 each).
This is strain related as already said. If you had used a different tek such as a manure or straw bulk substrate, you'd have had thousands of pins and most would still have aborted since a given area of mycelium can only support a given number of fruits to full size.
You could probably use that same syringe again and not get the same genetics since every grow from spores is different. Experienced and commercial growers isolate strains to find one with the pinning performance to cover a bulk substrate at about the rate they can fill in a nice canopy without crowding each other out. RR
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