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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
    #18918104 - 10/01/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the Senate called for a conference on the budget and SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the House turned them down. Al of a Fuck'n sudden, an hour before the deadline, your lame ass pubs decide their going to stage a photo op.

It's not too late to start looking for a recipe for Crow. If you're going to have to eat it you'd better find a recipe you like.






Link?




Why? You won't read it even if it was in the NY Times.




Precisely.  I provided him six links, and he claimed they were all false.  All he does is troll political discussion and Phred will ban people that don't agree with hm for whatever bullshit reason he can think of.  Apparently being free thinking and having your own opinions on the Shroomery is not allowed, unless those opinions align with the moderators' opinions.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
    #18918106 - 10/01/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I read all of Mush4brains' links.  They didn't do what he aid they did.  I don't give two shits what Patty Murray says.  Come up with something real.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18918120 - 10/01/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Precisely.  Even though those links confirmed what the one Democrat Representative said, he doesn't care.

Nothing could be proof enough to make Zappa realize his entire outlook on life is flawed.  That would crush his ego way too hard.  He will never admit being wrong.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18918163 - 10/01/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/10/01/2706691/gop-shutdown-conference/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/01/1242924/-So-now-Republicans-demand-a-conference-after-blocking-it-for-past-seven-months

http://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-house-to-appoint-conference-committees-2013-9

http://inagist.com/all/385048654794334209/

http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/972741

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=news&id=239

WHY DID BOEHNER SAY NO FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE SAYING YES AN HOUR BEFORE THE SHUTDOWN?

WHY DO TEAPUBLICANS KEEP TRYING TO SAY THIS ISN'T TRUE, AND THAT IT IS HARRY REID WHO SAID NO TO A BUDGET CONFERENCE?

WHAT SANE POLITICIAN WOULD BE DENIED FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN ACCEPT A DEAL AN HOUR BEFORE SHUTDOWN? 

WHY DOES ZAPPA KEEP LYING AND MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET HIS POINT ACROSS?

WHY WERE TEA PARTY MEMBERS WHO GOT ELECTED SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AT THEIR ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES, TOWN HALLS, AND PUBLIC EVENTS WHILE CLAIMING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN ONCE THE TIME CAME TO VOTE?

WHY WERE PEOPLE CHANTING "CUT IT OR SHUT IT" AT TEA PARTY EVENTS TWO YEARS AGO IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE SHUT DOWN?

WHY WERE THE TEA PARTY LEGISLATORS ON AIR TODAY AND THE PAST COUPLE YEARS SAYING 'HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHOW THAT GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARY' AFTER CLAIMING THEY DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18918184 - 10/01/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I read all of the NY Times every day  They drop in my driveway.  I finish the puzzles, too.

Mush's 6 links

1.  Huff post

Senate Rejects House GOP Request For Conference Committee Negotiation

2.  Daily Kos says so.  They don't even quote Murray

3.  Michael McCauliffe says so.  His quote from Murray? 
Quote:

We know going to a conference means that we have to compromise -- that's what a conference is," Murray said just before midnight. "But we're not going to do it




4.  Nuttiness from a freakshow that says nothing about 18 or 16 times

5.  Patty Murray again

6.  Nothing to do with 18 or 16 or however many times.  It is Obama demanding that Boehner and the majority of Americans submit to his perverted will.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18918208 - 10/01/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lolsy:

OK Zap.  You're obviously right, without any sources, any proof, or any evidence.  I guess I'll just start voting for all your astroturf candidates from here on out.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18918239 - 10/01/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ACA is the law of the land

It past a Supreme Court challenge

It past as one of the top points of contention in the presidential race in 2012

Today 3,000,000 people tried to sign up for it

And YES zap that only 1% of the country, but 30% don't have insurance.

Next stop, Single payer baby.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18918290 - 10/01/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/10/01/2706691/gop-shutdown-conference/




Do you believe everything a Dem politician says?
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/01/1242924/-So-now-Republicans-demand-a-conference-after-blocking-it-for-past-seven-months




Patty Murray again.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-house-to-appoint-conference-committees-2013-9




Nothing to do with 18 or 16 or whatever.
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http://inagist.com/all/385048654794334209/


  Really?
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http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/972741




Patty Murray again
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http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=news&id=239




Doesn't say anything about 18 or 16 times or whatever.  All you post is Patty Murray whining about something with no substance and several links that are irrelevant.
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WHY DID BOEHNER SAY NO FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE SAYING YES AN HOUR BEFORE THE SHUTDOWN?




link?  Try to find one from Boehner
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WHY DO TEAPUBLICANS KEEP TRYING TO SAY THIS ISN'T TRUE, AND THAT IT IS HARRY REID WHO SAID NO TO A BUDGET CONFERENCE?




Because we have him on video?
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WHAT SANE POLITICIAN WOULD BE DENIED FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN ACCEPT A DEAL AN HOUR BEFORE SHUTDOWN?


They sent three deals, all were rejected.  The last one because it made Congress critters and their henchmen  subject to the same laws as everybody else (except for Obama exempted cronies)
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WHY DOES ZAPPA KEEP LYING AND MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET HIS POINT ACROSS?




I didn't lie and you failed to provide proof.
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WHY WERE TEA PARTY MEMBERS WHO GOT ELECTED SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AT THEIR ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES, TOWN HALLS, AND PUBLIC EVENTS WHILE CLAIMING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN ONCE THE TIME CAME TO VOTE?




Link?  You do know that they were elected to eliminate Obamacare, which the people would like to see.  Hell. the second prposal was just to delay it, which Obama has done by fiat repeatedly in contradiction of law.
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WHY WERE PEOPLE CHANTING "CUT IT OR SHUT IT" AT TEA PARTY EVENTS TWO YEARS AGO IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE SHUT DOWN?




Link?
Quote:



WHY WERE THE TEA PARTY LEGISLATORS ON AIR TODAY AND THE PAST COUPLE YEARS SAYING 'HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHOW THAT GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARY' AFTER CLAIMING THEY DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?



Link?


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
    #18918305 - 10/01/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ACA is the law of the land

It past a Supreme Court challenge

It past as one of the top points of contention in the presidential race in 2012

Today 3,000,000 people tried to sign up for it

And YES zap that only 1% of the country, but 30% don't have insurance.

Next stop, Single payer baby.




Did you know that it is the job of Congress to determine the law of the land?  Slavery used to be the law of the land.  I am well aware that Obamacare is a worm to cause single payer.  I believe that is why they deliberately made it suck.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18918350 - 10/01/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's one assholes opinion


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18918357 - 10/01/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Zap :lolsy:


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18918369 - 10/01/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Did YOU know it takes BOTH of the houses to pass a law?


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #18918430 - 10/01/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it was revealed earlier today on Townhall.com that Obama wanted to go in and work with the republicans, actually come to a compromise that would satisfy both sides, But Harry Reid told the president there was more political gain from stonewalling.

It's Harry Reid who is the fucking one holding up progress.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #18918719 - 10/01/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this asshole in the white house spew his bullshit, I swear he can't speak a single paragraph on his teleprompter without lying.

The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchio's for his statement that, You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.

In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different non germane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.

    “The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”

A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Yes, they do.


So tell me liberals just how long is the country to continue taking on debt it will never be able to pay back? Just how indebted to foreign nations shall we become? How long do we sit back and watch Obama raid the social security trust fund, taking from tax paying Americans to pay for the health care costs of illegals? How many others that are in this country illegally now are "entitled" to what the shrinking middle class has had to pay into. If his parasitical whore aunt is used as an example, then the American taxpayer is fucked.

It's too late for us now, the die is cast, and it is just a matter of time. We are ruled by fucking lawyers, many of whom were personal injury ambulance chasers. The most depraved, lying, hypocritical fucks ever to disgrace this planet are in charge. Where did people think this would lead us? I would feel more secure having my taxes in the hands of used car salesmen.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Therian]
    #18918749 - 10/01/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well Said~!


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Therian] * 1
    #18918893 - 10/01/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm so sick and tired of hearing this asshole in the white house spew his bullshit, I swear he can't speak a single paragraph on his teleprompter without lying.

The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchio's for his statement that, You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.

In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different non germane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.

    “The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”

A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Yes, they do.


So tell me liberals just how long is the country to continue taking on debt it will never be able to pay back? Just how indebted to foreign nations shall we become? How long do we sit back and watch Obama raid the social security trust fund, taking from tax paying Americans to pay for the health care costs of illegals? How many others that are in this country illegally now are "entitled" to what the shrinking middle class has had to pay into. If his parasitical whore aunt is used as an example, then the American taxpayer is fucked.

It's too late for us now, the die is cast, and it is just a matter of time. We are ruled by fucking lawyers, many of whom were personal injury ambulance chasers. The most depraved, lying, hypocritical fucks ever to disgrace this planet are in charge. Where did people think this would lead us? I would feel more secure having my taxes in the hands of used car salesmen.



QFT

The fucking lawyers man. Read warning labels these days, there is at least one on everything you purchase saying the most ludicrous things, all because of lawyers.


Lawyers write the laws, so why would they make them simple for the average person to be able to understand them? Well for one, they would all lose their high paying jobs.

Just food for thought


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: unknown1123]
    #18919168 - 10/02/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the lawyersssssss!


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18919188 - 10/02/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it was revealed earlier today on Townhall.com that Obama wanted to go in and work with the republicans, actually come to a compromise that would satisfy both sides, But Harry Reid told the president there was more political gain from stonewalling.

It's Harry Reid who is the fucking one holding up progress.




Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position.  But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18919671 - 10/02/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position.  But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.




6 months ago was the 2013 budget.

The budget currently in play is the 2014 budget.

10/1 is when the Federal fiscal year starts. If you were 10% as clever as you seem to think you'd be aware of that.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18920764 - 10/02/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You people don't read these posts you're living in your fantasy.

GO BACK AND READ, THEN TRY AGAIN!


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