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mushbecrazy
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string of bad syring or just bad luck?
#18919581 - 10/02/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lately ive ordered several syringes and rye bags (because of questioning my tek after few failed jars) out of 8 syringes one bag and one jar from same syringe did good. All others sat for 2 week no growth no contaminates. Never had this much trouble getting MS syringes to work. Ive tryed WBS, rye, barley, and corn. Sitting at constant 75 deg in dark . Syringes are from 3 vendors all three highly recommended on shroomery post ive seen.
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18919608 - 10/02/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the syringes were bad, youd have zero good jars. Guaranteed. Sterilization procedure? What are you using as filter for g.e.? Pc times and psi? How are u innoculating- with a ship in a s.a.b. or a glove box? I mean so many variables come into play. More information and pictures could help pinpoint the problem.
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#18919609 - 10/02/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im sorry i misread your question. One syringe did good... hmmm. Still more info would help
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mushbecrazy
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#18919691 - 10/02/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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n a glove box, shake the syringe flame the tip squirt drop out, then put through plastic on bag covered hole with tape(rye bags came from a advertiser on here and have a filter) jars are 1/2 holesstuffed with poly fill filters. Incubated at 75 deg. Been two week undisturbed. First batch no growth on 5 syrines 2nd batch was twosyringes Two jars from same syringe grew great. Third batch was two syringes was a dud too. Tryed bunches of vendor prepared and self prepared grain and corn was trying to see what did best side by side. Im thinking maybe summer heat from shipping. Oh ones that worked were over night from tenn. To alabama. Idk where the other two are loc. at. Im a amateur 2 years in growing. Also i was useing 2cc per qt jar and 1lb bag
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Edited by mushbecrazy (10/02/13 05:57 AM)
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mushbecrazy
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18919704 - 10/02/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A couple of the poly fill jar have started to show bacterial infections but it been two weeks and only on corn. Rye jar and bag of the one was only good ones. Corn and wbs bags and jars nothen same syringe. All bags are bought from same vender.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18919987 - 10/02/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do yourself a favor and spend less money and make the bags yourself with a used 20$ pressure cooker. Then you'll know where things are going wrong. Also with polyfil in a lid make sure it's very very tight to the point where you would think it's airtight(its not).
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spacechildo
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18920132 - 10/02/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'd say the grain bags must be to blame here. Think what ride that bag had from the vendor, by truck, maybe even by plain or train and to your door.
I would never by pre-sterilized grains or pre-pasteurized substrate off the internet.
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mushbecrazy
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: spacechildo]
#18920888 - 10/02/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My jars are self pre pared and store bags bought both failed tryed 1jar and 1bag of each corn wbs and rye for each syrine. Money wasnt my concern. First time ive had trouble like this. No contaminats except the corn bags and jars started to show bacteria at 2weeks. Dont think this was problem. It hit almost 100 deg out side after i ordered im thinking spores got to hot.
Ihave a pc that i can fit 10 qt jars in. Itll hit 20 psi if i want. I was trying to see what was fastest side by side. And what fruited the most.
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Edited by mushbecrazy (10/02/13 12:44 PM)
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SpitballJedi
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18921008 - 10/02/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try sticking you red hot needle through the injection port. This will burn anything on the surface of the port.
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j3rk0ff
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18921049 - 10/02/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: Try sticking you red hot needle through the injection port. This will burn anything on the surface of the port.
be sure to put micropore tape over injection ive had issues with hole not closing back up with red hot needle.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: j3rk0ff]
#18921099 - 10/02/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
j3rk0ff said:
Quote:
SpitballJedi said: Try sticking you red hot needle through the injection port. This will burn anything on the surface of the port.
be sure to put micropore tape over injection ive had issues with hole not closing back up with red hot needle.
Then you might want to take a look at how other people are making their SHIPs I don't think any one out there has resorted to this
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mushbecrazy
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18921507 - 10/02/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If contamination was the problem wouldnt it not show. I just opened a jar of rye still smells like fresh rye still. I think shipping temps killed them. Some g2g jars from same batch of substrate are ready for spawning. I just think it was odd i got so many duds.
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j3rk0ff
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: bodhisatta]
#18921514 - 10/02/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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both ge silicone 2 and rtv must be my luck
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SupaThaRipper
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: j3rk0ff]
#18922706 - 10/02/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah perhaps the heat killed your spores dude. Wait till winter
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Enigma1
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#18926320 - 10/03/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally keep my oyster jars isolated and spray the area with air sanitizer every time after I check them or once a day and I also have metered air sanitizer by the AC intake that sprays every 30 min 24 hours a day. Give this a try keep the meter on the lowest setting for the first 2 months the 3Rd month bump it up to 30 min this will make it last 2 months. Make sure you get Air Sanitizer micro burst alcohol.
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Enigma1
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: Enigma1]
#18926361 - 10/03/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you tried Synthetic filters.
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SammyPsychonaut
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18926545 - 10/03/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have a way of promoting FAE? Gas Exchange is essential for growth. What kind of lid do you use?
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mushbecrazy
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Ive been using sryinge filters for FAE. I get them from out grow. Also use there SHIPs . Bags have a cloth looking filter. There from same vender. Ive just in mins ago 4 new spore syringes more pan cayan blue meanie, pe albino, burma, and one of my fav golden teacher. This time over nighted. Got WBS in pc right now. Rinced it till waters clean dumped in already boiling water one hour. Drained for three hours shaking it randomly. Packed in jars pc'ing for 90 at 19 psi. I got a guage to keep eye on pressure. Sound good?
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Edited by mushbecrazy (10/03/13 06:55 PM)
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mushbecrazy
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Re: string of bad syring or just bad luck? [Re: mushbecrazy]
#18928047 - 10/03/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you seen white spores there alabino pe.
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