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Re: Very strange reaction to shrooms [Re: Universe]
    #18919675 - 10/02/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its best to wait longer than a half hour obviously.
I say its better to acclimate the body to the psilo slowly.
Ground mushrooms or even tea can overwhelm the ability to metabolize and cause really unpleasant physical effects.     
  Anyhoo
Sounds neat

Animal noises....fuckin RAD


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Re: Very strange reaction to shrooms [Re: Universe]
    #18924177 - 10/03/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i've got a lot to say about this, so i'll try to make it brief.

first: i've had a friend in his 30's, very well-seasoned tripper, decide in his 30's that he can't eat mushrooms anymore because one time, as he was sitting down indian-style speaking in tongues with his eyes rolled in the back of his head, his body was uncontrollably doing backflips from a sitting position. now THAT shit is weird. there were witnesses. he didn't remember any of it either. he has no mental disorders and was on no meds.

second: my brother also had an experience very similar to what you're girlfriend had. there were differing factors like setting, however. he was at his first music festival where it was 110 degrees and there were supposedly bad/poisonous mushrooms being sold. he may or may not have gotten this batch, and he may have had a bad reaction to the intense heat, possibly some sort of heat stroke. what happened was he ended up locking himself in the trunk of his friend's SUV. his friends said the best way to describe his appearance was as if they were watching a primal monkey going wild in a cage. my brother remembers parts of it, seeing demons everywhere. i felt bad for my bro and wish i were there to manage the situation, but he has tripped a few times on mushrooms since, but just a few, and each time were on low doses and he held himself together well like a champ, but afterwards he told me it was intense. i'm talking full on trips off of just a little over a gram. 

we all have different brain chemistry, and my brother and my friend mentioned above are just examples of people who can't handle psychedelics like others can.

as far as mental illness goes, this is complex. my argument is that this factor is purely individual and cannot be applied to all people, even those who share the same illness. i, myself, was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder 6-7 years ago, of which i was in my prime of eating psychedelics like candy, and nobody would even know i was tripping. i could handle myself like a champ on LSD or mushrooms. i ate them 1-2 times per week for months at a time, had so many healing experiences, and never had a bad trip or anything weird like exorcist type shit. i was also diagnosed with bipolar 2 disorder over a year ago. it is a less severe form of bipolar 1.

i have had only one bad LSD trip in my life and one bad mushroom trip, both of which were before my bipolar diagnosis. i now take a mood-stabilizer along with benzos for the anxiety. since the diagnosis, i have tripped on 4-aco-dmt once (which was sold as "synthesized psilocin"...so i'm not sure what it was to be honest), LSD (best trip ever), DMT (best DMT experience ever), and psilocybin extract (which i made) about 6 times this year. NO bad experiences.

in my lifetime, i've tripped LSD too many times to count (def in the 100s), mushrooms about 50 times, and DMT about 50 times, all of which were too many times to count honestly.

that being said, i can handle my psychedelics well, BUT, only in low doses. i do NOT enjoy high dose trips at all because it's just too much for me, except DMT because it's so short. It's rare that i'll take more than two hits of acid. i don't eat raw mushrooms anymore because they make me so nauseous even just smelling them (that's why i made extract)...and i don't eat high doses of it.

sorry for the length, but i hope this helps. regarding your girlfriend, i would recommend she stick to low doses or not trip at all.

as far as interpreting her behavior and experience, she was not possessed, even though it may have looked like it. she went through some primal and spiritual experience which she was unable to integrate. she was certainly conscious but out of her body, possibly making exchanges with other beings in other dimensions, communicating in other languages that she wasn't aware that she could speak. the flailing of arms and such are probably related to her shock of being thrust into other dimensions that she didn't fathom could exist. it's like throwing an infant child who doesn't know how to swim into an ocean. not only do they not know how to swim, they don't even know what the fuck an ocean is, or that they exist. just a metaphor, but hopefully i'm getting my point across.

p.s. i agree with the others about the mistake of re-dosing at 30 min...classic mistake. wait AT LEAST an hour. i would wait 90 min personally...and not to bash on you, but i would have tried to ease her trip sooner and with more care instead of turning up the tv and trying to ignore what was happening, especially since her behavior sobered you up and made you more capable of intervening. xanax IMO should have been given to her much earlier; sometimes trips need to be aborted and a parachute is needed. people debate about benzos and tripping, but i don't trip without a benzo available personally, given my predispositions to having anxiety/panic attacks. it's as close as you can get to feeling like dying, but ego death can be a beneficial part of a trip, so that's where the debate comes in. sometimes you face fear of death, you gotta dive right in or abort. it's up to the individual.

sorry for the length...told you i had a lot to say :smile:


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Re: Very strange reaction to shrooms [Re: crispy86]
    #18924227 - 10/03/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've seen that a couple times, yeah it's pretty freaky


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Re: Very strange reaction to shrooms [Re: stonezy]
    #18924432 - 10/03/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if she is on bipolar meds is it possible they work on the 5-ht2a and caused the chem to be force into a different serotonin 5-ht receptor?

I dont know, just a guess.


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