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liquidlounge

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"It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective existence of dead people"
#18916437 - 10/01/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I call bullshit based on humans evergrowing intelligence, awareness and perception of existence and death, if only we steer clear of delusional thinking.
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Edited by liquidlounge (10/01/13 02:21 PM)
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective existence of dead people" [Re: liquidlounge]
#18917142 - 10/01/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's a confusing title and post. I'm not sure what you're saying.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective existence of dead people" [Re: liquidlounge]
#18917597 - 10/01/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel what your saying. I think we have a long way to go though.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective existence of dead people" [Re: T-Rex]
#18917663 - 10/01/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So what's he saying?
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or [Re: Icelander] 2
#18917689 - 10/01/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: That's a confusing title and post. I'm not sure what you're saying. 
That's only cuz you're not dead yet. It will all be clear soon enough.
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Hopefully.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or [Re: Icelander]
#18917735 - 10/01/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't use your 42 virgins up all at once. You have to make them last as eternity is quite a long time.
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That's great advice.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or [Re: Icelander]
#18917956 - 10/01/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: liquidlounge]
#18918079 - 10/01/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: I call bullshit based on humans evergrowing intelligence, awareness and perception of existence and death, if only we steer clear of delusional thinking.
Taken by itself the statement is exhibiting a theory as a truth and could be worded better but that's my main beef. A person who isn't sure cannot claim to know whether it's possible or not. I assume there is no after death experience. It seems logical based on the lack of evidence to support any other theory. I wouldn't mind being wrong, wouldn't mind being right.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: Rahz]
#18919029 - 10/01/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The existence of an afterlife is tied indelibly to religion. Now people will ask, "Do you believe in a God or not?" My answer is, "I haven't considered it much. The question is irrelevant. Do you often consider the existence of unicorns?" I'm not an atheist because atheists have a stance on the existence of God and the afterlife. I do not and don't really care. Can we know? Maybe. We're not there yet, but something tells me it is feasible to find out what happens to the mind after death.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
#18919370 - 10/02/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Something tells me it's not.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: Lysergic_Milkman] 1
#18919525 - 10/02/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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but something tells me it is feasible to find out what happens to the mind after death.
I would think one would have to know what death is to do that.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: Rahz]
#18919561 - 10/02/13 03:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's when the body and brain cease to function. Or am I missing something in what you said? 
I don't see how anyone can possibly find out what happens after death unless they do continue to exist after it. Any thought or claims on the matter is pure guesswork.
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Rahz said: I assume there is no after death experience. It seems logical based on the lack of evidence to support any other theory. I wouldn't mind being wrong, wouldn't mind being right.
Edited by Into The Woods (10/02/13 03:47 AM)
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: Into The Woods]
#18919579 - 10/02/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder what people thought about death 10000 years back.
Ideas on "not existing/nothingness"? Hardly.
Death should get undressed if humans steer clear of delusions.
I don't see how anyone can possibly find out what happens after death unless they do continue to exist after it. Any thought or claims on the matter is pure guesswork.
You don't have to experience something natural to understand the mechanism of it.
That said, one might be able to somehow revive dead people in the future and they should be able to explain whether they recall anything or not. Might even monitor death. Most likely they recall the same as I do from when before I was born - nothingness, and I think rationale human beings will get broader understanding of 'nothing' as time changes.
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Re: "It's impossible knowing or understanding what happens to the subjective... [Re: liquidlounge]
#18923670 - 10/02/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stay clear of delusional thinking?
I think we need to take all the crazy people out of the psych wards... take them off the pills... and let them run around and bash their heads into walls until they figure something out for us.
The only way to come up with something NEW is to question what is CURRENT.
I think humans have an incredible future in front of us... its a shame we are stuck in the now. But I think that's what makes us so great. Stargazers all of us.
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