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The 'Government Shutdown' is beginning to sound like the 'sequester' All the dire consequences predicted up to an including the end of the world....and what has come about?
"Non-Essential personell have been furloughed"
NON FUCKING ESSENTIAL!!
Well fuck my ass naked. If they aren't 'ESSENTIAL' Why do I pay for them?
Someone please tell me, name me a business that runs with non-essential personell? Go into a bookstore, is there any 'non-essential' personell? Someone who doesn't really add value to the operation of the company?
No there isn't...if a company has non-essential personell they lay them off because they aren't needed.
Non-essential services, non-essential services. Services and people that do NOTHING to add value to our government. That's what's wrong with it.
By the way, does anyone realize that the government brings in enough revenue to pay debts and fund ESSENTIAL services without borrowing?
The fucking light-bulb head, lying, Muslim Kenyan lied through his teeth again but whats new? "BUT OH, LOOK he went to Harvard an was Editor of the Harvard Law Review"
Editor of the Harvard law review my ass. The editor of one of the most prestigious publications in academia and no one has seen anything that he has written.
God, the most amazing thing about this ASS WIPE is the huge cloud of smoke that the media and the socialist establishment blew up the people's ass concerning this fucking fraud.
You people who are still supporting this fucking Charade should be ashamed of yourselves for falling for it.
That's my political rant for the day.
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Gimme a break. Essential means people who provide emergency services, maintain critical infrastructure, etc.. My friend who maintains state department computer networks is essential, another friend who is a NASA engineer is not.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes] 1
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Do you realize how much money national parks bring in for local economies in tourism every year?
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Services and people that do NOTHING to add value to our government
That isn't what the word "non-essential" means.
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does anyone realize that the government brings in enough revenue to pay debts and fund ESSENTIAL services without borrowing
Source?
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Muslim Kenyan lied through his teeth again but whats new
It's this kind of rhetoric that makes people not take you seriously.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Close to 800,000 public employees got sent home today on furlough.
Pretty strategic move by the party thats said nothing but jobs since 2010.
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The Ecstatic said: Close to 800,000 public employees got sent home today on furlough.
Pretty strategic move by the party thats said nothing but jobs since 2010.
"Obamacare is the #1 threat to our economy"
No, that would be the GOP.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
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I'm curious what jobs bill would hit the floor if the GOP had supermajority. All I've heard since the tea party debacle is to just keep cutting taxes.
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The US needs to outsource its management to Canada until your politicians find common ground.
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Cutting taxes equals more jobs, don't you realize that? If the people who hoard their money offshore have more money they would hoard less offshore and create more jobs
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
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800,000 people sent home. I didn't know our government was a job corp program for people who can't make it in the private sector.
The government is claiming who is essential. Maybe it is what we need--to find out who and who isn't needed and begin to leave our money at home.
Gotta say the republicans played Obama like a fiddle on this one, got him to run his mouth about the country collapsing about a shut down. And ding in his already strained credibility.
R and D's should stop pointing fingers at each other, they are going to put someone's eye out.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Mush4Brains said: Cutting taxes equals more jobs, don't you realize that? If the people who hoard their money offshore have more money they would hoard less offshore and create more jobs

If the government didn't tax the living shit out of people they wouldn't protect their money offshore--it would be working here in the US.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes]
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Typical bullshit about public employee who are generally the highest educated workforce in the country. Outside of Silicon Valley, the DC area has the highest proportion of college graduates in the country. My friend is a fucking rocket scientist with a PhD from one of the best engineering schools in the world, and he gets paid less than 100K. People who work for the government do so because they value the work, not because they are lazy.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes]
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obviously they are non essential b/c we are able to go a whole day without them
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: g00ru]
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we go half the year without Congress
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Does anyone find it disturbing that Obama's whole mode of governing is to go to a college or before a group of people, and give a speech? A speech in which he blames republicans?
Just go look--every speech is him standing before a couple of blacks, a mexican or two, some old people, a few women, a native american, one or two asians, a couple of cripples in wheelchairs, and a token white male.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes] 3
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I find your general outlook on society disturbing.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes]
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Does anyone find it disturbing
Nope.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18916592 - 10/01/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Cutting taxes equals more jobs, don't you realize that? If the people who hoard their money offshore have more money they would hoard less offshore and create more jobs

No, they'll just hoard more. Greed is good!
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Le_Canard]
#18916802 - 10/01/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the republicans are just mad because they didn't think of the obama scheme first.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zZZz]
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#18918408 - 10/01/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The clusterfuck is in full motion in DC.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes]
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what if Canada
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Hobozen]
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Well, all the neighborhood parks are fenced off in DC. Guess the dog will have to play in the street.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18922430 - 10/02/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They closed the parks? How the fuck do you close a park?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18922443 - 10/02/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude just push the barricades aside. Fuck them.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
#18922474 - 10/02/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I retch every time I see one of your posts with that smug smiley face.
That image says it all -- you're a fucking jackass.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: They closed the parks? How the fuck do you close a park?
srly? National parks like Yosemite have just a few ppoints of entry with a checkpoint. They're big. It's not like you can casually saunter up to the points of interest from the park borders.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: They closed the parks? How the fuck do you close a park?
This park has a very formidable wall around it, some areas the wall is over 50ft high.

There's only a couple areas to enter the park. I went jogging in rock creek park yesterday and that is still open, but it would be impossible to limit access.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Me_Roy]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: They closed the parks? How the fuck do you close a park?
srly? National parks like Yosemite have just a few ppoints of entry with a checkpoint. They're big. It's not like you can casually saunter up to the points of interest from the park borders.
Thats not the issue, the issue is that its a fucking park. Its not a government building. Its maintenence costs are going to remain static regardless of whether or not its open, so why the fuck did they waste the time erecting a fence around the points of entry and telling everyone "no, you cant walk on that stretch of grass anymore" Theres nothing that more succinctly highlights the stupidity of government then shutting down a fucking sidewalk and some trees.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#18922516 - 10/02/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I'm curious what jobs bill would hit the floor if the GOP had supermajority. All I've heard since the tea party debacle is to just keep cutting taxes.
That is a jobs bill.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18922532 - 10/02/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me_Roy said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: They closed the parks? How the fuck do you close a park?
srly? National parks like Yosemite have just a few ppoints of entry with a checkpoint. They're big. It's not like you can casually saunter up to the points of interest from the park borders.
Thats not the issue, the issue is that its a fucking park. Its not a government building. Its maintenence costs are going to remain static regardless of whether or not its open, so why the fuck did they waste the time erecting a fence around the perimeter and telling everyone "no, you cant walk on that stretch of grass anymore" Theres nothing that more succinctly highlights the stupidity of government then shutting down a fucking sidewalk and some trees.
In DC all parks are federal parkland, so I guess they apply the rules equally across the park system. I wonder if DuPont circle is closed off too. That would be ridiculous.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18922537 - 10/02/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are my tax dollars funding a municipal park in Washington DC, a city that collects its own taxes? Let DC pay for it.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18922565 - 10/02/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you mean that the government paid someone to install fences around the parks????
Just let people go in the parks, I'm sure they won't mind the longer grass...
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Patlal]
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obama and the dems are really thwoing a hissy fit over this one. obama was on cnbc preaching doom and gloom (what happened to hope?) saying if things continue this way the ideology divide will widen and government by the people experiment will fail (even though he refuses to negotiate, that really helps the divide). next he says that wall street should be legitimately concerned about the current events (trying to provoke market panic). then they tried to lock some ww2 vets out of the memorial even though it requires no staff to run.
why do american citizens need to feel embarrassed about the state the nations leaders have put the country into?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: So you mean that the government paid someone to install fences around the parks????
Just let people go in the parks, I'm sure they won't mind the longer grass...
Why are you asking me? I don't live there. Let the DC government pay for the DC park.
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Nova said: obama and the dems are really thwoing a hissy fit over this one. obama was on cnbc preaching doom and gloom (what happened to hope?) saying if things continue this way the ideology divide will widen and government by the people experiment will fail (even though he refuses to negotiate, that really helps the divide).
Probably the first time ever that the truth has come out of a politician's mouth
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why do american citizens need to feel embarrassed about the state the nations leaders have put the country into?
Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: starfire_xes]
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The Ecstatic said: I find your general outlook on society disturbing.
+1
+2 if I could.
That, and the seemingly constant liberal / progressive / Obama bashing, and the ass-backwards conservative rhetoric.
And that's not just a starfire_xes thing. Not trying to single anyone out. I'm generally getting sick of seeing some of those same fallacious views* parroted in a number of forums and comment sections online.
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starfire_xes said: If the government didn't tax the living shit out of people they wouldn't protect their money offshore--it would be working here in the US. 
Yeah, the guys who have the means to practically print money-- people whose money can now make money of its own (aka "passive" income streams)... including some people who make as much money as they do, only because they pay their large labor force the bare minimum they can legally get away with paying, an amount that would have been "fair" and "liveable" thirty fucking years ago-- should not have to pay their fair share; an amount proportionate to how much extra income they bring in... to the extent they want to be shady and hide their money off shore, or figure out other tricks and shortcuts to have to pay less. (Essentially, scamming the system)...
...and yet they'll bitch endlessly about the "welfare queens" who they say "feel entitled to a handout" etc, which they cry is an unfair and selfish manipulation of the system. 
I just find it really disgusting, and a really glaring example of how morally corrupt and bankrupt certain segments of our society have become.
Anyway, back to this specific case, and Obama...
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starfire_xes said: Does anyone find it disturbing that Obama's whole mode of governing is to go to a college or before a group of people, and give a speech? A speech in which he blames republicans?
Just go look--every speech is him standing before a couple of blacks, a mexican or two, some old people, a few women, a native american, one or two asians, a couple of cripples in wheelchairs, and a token white male.
Now that just kinda seems like hyperbole. Certainly exaggeration. Yes, he does have a number of minority supporters. Why should that be a surprise? The first female president would have a ton of female supporters as well. No mystery there. But don't pretend Obama hasn't had plenty of white support.
Don't get me confused, either. I'm no fan of Obama. He's pretty damn far from our best president. (My favorite presidents are some of the guys whose term ended in a coffin, i.e. JFK) But he's not our worst president, either. Just another slick socially-engineered piece of puppetry. 
If you really want to blast Obama regarding his speeches, how about you look into the fact that he has been caught using "covert hypnosis" and NLP techniques to influence voters? IMO that's far more interesting, scarier, and more "damning." Based on what I wrote above, you should probably realize I'm not a member of the biased "Let's lynch this shuck and jive clown" crowd.... yet after weighing the evidence, I'd say his use of hypnotic suggestion in speeches is plausible.
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starfire_xes said: The 'Government Shutdown' is beginning to sound like the 'sequester' All the dire consequences predicted up to an including the end of the world....and what has come about?
"Non-Essential personell have been furloughed"
NON FUCKING ESSENTIAL!!
Well fuck my ass naked. If they aren't 'ESSENTIAL' Why do I pay for them?
Someone please tell me, name me a business that runs with non-essential personell? Go into a bookstore, is there any 'non-essential' personell? Someone who doesn't really add value to the operation of the company?
No there isn't...if a company has non-essential personell they lay them off because they aren't needed.
Non-essential services, non-essential services. Services and people that do NOTHING to add value to our government. That's what's wrong with it.
By the way, does anyone realize that the government brings in enough revenue to pay debts and fund ESSENTIAL services without borrowing?
The fucking light-bulb head, lying, Muslim Kenyan lied through his teeth again but whats new? "BUT OH, LOOK he went to Harvard an was Editor of the Harvard Law Review"
Editor of the Harvard law review my ass. The editor of one of the most prestigious publications in academia and no one has seen anything that he has written.
God, the most amazing thing about this ASS WIPE is the huge cloud of smoke that the media and the socialist establishment blew up the people's ass concerning this fucking fraud.
You people who are still supporting this fucking Charade should be ashamed of yourselves for falling for it.
That's my political rant for the day. 
sigh.. I used to get worked up like you (well not exactly like you, because I realize the entire government is evil not just obama), but now I dont give a fuck, and its way better. you should try it
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Just go look--every speech is him standing before a couple of blacks, a mexican or two, some old people, a few women, a native american, one or two asians, a couple of cripples in wheelchairs, and a token white male.

Lots of black women in the background that cheer him on, same stuff the last 6 years.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: qman]
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Okay I'll admit I can't see how he still has as many diehard supporters as he does considering he often does a bad job.
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He is black and giving away free stuff.
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Most black intellectuals despise Obama, they know he's nothing more than a puppet for the rich white boys, and that just kills them.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: AWS]
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You guys must understand. They pull this kind of crap in DC because they're fucking tools. They want to make it seem as bad as possible to support the brother in the white house. Thats how they think. We're talking about the city that reelected marion barry for what, 30 some years? I've got to admit its gotten alot better since he's been out of powere but its still hard to believe Obama didnt play a part having the parks fenced in. I've also pretty much stopped listening to politics. The way it looks to me is the dems are clearly crooks and the republicans seem to be just a seething group of retards. Now i just remember that the world is always getting better despite these jackasses and focus on my life to make sure i come out winning no matter what these fucks do.
They do need to cut the average guys taxes though. Im tired of working for free for the first half of the day.
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Nova said: obama and the dems are really thwoing a hissy fit over this one. obama was on cnbc preaching doom and gloom (what happened to hope?) saying if things continue this way the ideology divide will widen and government by the people experiment will fail (even though he refuses to negotiate, that really helps the divide).
Probably the first time ever that the truth has come out of a politician's mouth
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why do american citizens need to feel embarrassed about the state the nations leaders have put the country into?
Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
You're a fucking Canadian. You have nothing to say.
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Damn straight we're Canadian, watching your government flop around for air is amusing.
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Would you like to have a war with us?
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The Ecstatic said: I find your general outlook on society disturbing.
+1
+2 if I could.
That, and the seemingly constant liberal / progressive / Obama bashing, and the ass-backwards conservative rhetoric.
And that's not just a starfire_xes thing. Not trying to single anyone out. I'm generally getting sick of seeing some of those same fallacious views* parroted in a number of forums and comment sections online.
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starfire_xes said: If the government didn't tax the living shit out of people they wouldn't protect their money offshore--it would be working here in the US. 
Yeah, the guys who have the means to practically print money-- people whose money can now make money of its own (aka "passive" income streams)... including some people who make as much money as they do, only because they pay their large labor force the bare minimum they can legally get away with paying, an amount that would have been "fair" and "liveable" thirty fucking years ago-- should not have to pay their fair share; an amount proportionate to how much extra income they bring in... to the extent they want to be shady and hide their money off shore, or figure out other tricks and shortcuts to have to pay less. (Essentially, scamming the system)...
The only entity that can print money is the government. Fair and livable? Fuck that. Fair is what you can get. Livable does not include cable and a cell phone. You have a problem with interest? Without interest there would be no loans at all. That's a real spiffy idea.Quote:
...and yet they'll bitch endlessly about the "welfare queens" who they say "feel entitled to a handout" etc, which they cry is an unfair and selfish manipulation of the system. 
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/08/72344-obamas-food-stamp-program-ca-surfer-buys-sushi-lobster-avoids-work/
Yeah, nothing to complain about there. Nor is there anything to complain about bums having baby after baby with no father contributing. Fucking spare me your crapQuote:
I just find it really disgusting, and a really glaring example of how morally corrupt and bankrupt certain segments of our society have become.
I agree but we probably disagree about who the corrupt are. You can be generous with your own money. I'd rather light a cigar with a hundred dollar bill than see either of the above referenced scumbags get it. Quote:
Anyway, back to this specific case, and Obama...
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Just go look--every speech is him standing before a couple of blacks, a mexican or two, some old people, a few women, a native american, one or two asians, a couple of cripples in wheelchairs, and a token white male.
Now that just kinda seems like hyperbole. Certainly exaggeration. Yes, he does have a number of minority supporters. Why should that be a surprise? The first female president would have a ton of female supporters as well. No mystery there. But don't pretend Obama hasn't had plenty of white support.
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Don't get me confused, either. I'm no fan of Obama. He's pretty damn far from our best president. (My favorite presidents are some of the guys whose term ended in a coffin, i.e. JFK) But he's not our worst president, either. Just another slick socially-engineered piece of puppetry. 
He is more harmful even than Jimmy Carter. What do you know of JFK? He was a fiscal conservative http://www.debtordebt.com/forum/does-john-f-kennedy-sound-like-a-fiscal-conservative-t146171.html
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"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."
"In today's economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues."
"It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today's economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates."
"Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."
"A tax cut means higher family income, business profits and a balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, home, conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues."
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If you really want to blast Obama regarding his speeches, how about you look into the fact that he has been caught using "covert hypnosis" and NLP techniques to influence voters? IMO that's far more interesting, scarier, and more "damning." Based on what I wrote above, you should probably realize I'm not a member of the biased "Let's lynch this shuck and jive clown" crowd.... yet after weighing the evidence, I'd say his use of hypnotic suggestion in speeches is plausible.
/rant
What "lynch this shuck and jive clown crowd". Who's hyperbolic now?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Just let people go in the parks, I'm sure they won't mind the longer grass...
Why are you asking me? I don't live there. Let the DC government pay for the DC park.
DC would love to have control over its own governance. Ask the republicans why the won't let a city that runs a half billion dollar surplus have control over itself. They won't even allow the elected representative in congress have her vote count. DC did have its vote count in the house, but that was stripped when the republicans took back control.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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The more it flops the better I feel.
This is the problem with conservative ideology - you don't believe government works, and then you make sure it doesn't by being totally inept at governing.
Look at California, for a decade, it had a republican governor that trashed democratic fiscal policy. They were a fiscal disaster. Now that republicans have absolutely zero power in California, the state has completely turned itself around and runs a surplus. The only time governments are inept in the US is when Republicans insert their 4th grade economic theories into the mix.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Probably the first time ever that the truth has come out of a politician's mouth
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why do american citizens need to feel embarrassed about the state the nations leaders have put the country into?
Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
You're a fucking Canadian. You have nothing to say.
Yeah we have a say. We're kinda right there next to you guys on the same continent. We're also your main trading partner and your best ally. We both exchange international intelligence to each other. We're not Mexico and our economies are welded together. Therefore we have the right to critic you guys, but I will admit that our opinions are worthless to the debate unless you choose to listen to one. Different perspective you know
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
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I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
#18922859 - 10/02/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
Taxation, without representation.
All always wondered why that put on license plates. Isn't it a bad thing? Paying and yet not have a voice?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18922869 - 10/02/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They'd better be running a surplus with all the parking tickets they write. I guess i cant talk too mush shit, i still go there pretty much every day to work.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
DC elects a delegate to the House. She can sit on committees but cannot vote of the floor. DC has no representation in the Senate. There have been numerous attempts to change this, but republicans have always blocked it because DC has a solid democratic advantage.
As for fiscal responsibility and wealth generation, it shouldn't be a surprise that Maryland is the richest state per capita in the US - we don't elect republicans. Do I have to provide an example what happens when Repblicans run the entire show? OK. Mississippi.
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Big_Dave said: They'd better be running a surplus with all the parking tickets they write. I guess i cant talk too mush shit, i still go there pretty much every day to work.
I stayed overnight at my friends place near DuPont last night, and I realized this afternoon that the ANC permit for parking on the residents only side of the street expired on Sunday. Fortunately, I didn't get a ticket.
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The more it flops the better I feel.
This is the problem with conservative ideology - you don't believe government works, and then you make sure it doesn't by being totally inept at governing.
The Dems are far more inept. Government is the most inefficient allocation of resources and should do only that which is essential to security and safety. Quote:
Look at California, for a decade, it had a republican governor that trashed democratic fiscal policy. They were a fiscal disaster. Now that republicans have absolutely zero power in California, the state has completely turned itself around and runs a surplus. The only time governments are inept in the US is when Republicans insert their 4th grade economic theories into the mix.
The state of California is utterly fucked.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/meredith-whitney-worst-states-business-growth-122115417.html
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She tells The Daily Ticker, “Underneath the surface you would be shocked to see how they [California] got there. “They raised taxes and did it retroactively… a lot of people booked 2013 gains into 2012 because of tax incentives… and they’re cramming down state expenses onto local communities without providing local communities the resources to pay for them… They are not paying into their pension funds adequately… and they’re still cutting from education…. It’s so much worse than the rosy picture that the headlines suggest.”
Why do think city after city is declaring bankruptcy?
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Probably the first time ever that the truth has come out of a politician's mouth
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why do american citizens need to feel embarrassed about the state the nations leaders have put the country into?
Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
You're a fucking Canadian. You have nothing to say.
Yeah we have a say. We're kinda right there next to you guys on the same continent. We're also your main trading partner and your best ally. We both exchange international intelligence to each other. We're not Mexico and our economies are welded together. Therefore we have the right to critic you guys, but I will admit that our opinions are worthless to the debate unless you choose to listen to one. Different perspective you know
You personally, as a Canadian, have consistently proven that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about vis a vis the United States.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Actually, the most inefficient way to allocate resources is to give contracts to for profit corporations to do the things that government should be doing itself..
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Dark_Star said: I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
Not in Congress. It is Unconstitutional. It does have it's own government that collects taxes and runs the municipality.
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No it isn't. That's ridiculous. For instance the government is not a construction company. They solicit bids for work and then sift through competing bids. The government can't even effectively monitor the work.
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Dark_Star said: I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
Not in Congress. It is Unconstitutional. It does have it's own government that collects taxes and runs the municipality.
It is not unconstitutional. You really do have a limited understanding of these topics, don't you. The constitution grants congress full authority over DC. It is completely in the hands of congress as to how much democracy the residents of DC are allowed.
As for running the municipality, the laws passed by the council are subject to authorization by congress.
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On December 24, 1973, Congress enacted the District of Columbia Home Rule Act, providing for an elected mayor and the 13-member Council of the District of Columbia.[21] Each of the city's eight wards elects a single member of the council and five members, including the chairman, are elected at large.[22] There are 37 Advisory Neighborhood Commissions (ANCs) elected by small neighborhood districts. ANCs traditionally wield a great deal of influence and the city government routinely takes their suggestions into careful consideration.[23] The Council has the ability to pass local laws and ordinances. However, pursuant to the Home Rule Act all legislation passed by the D.C. government, including the city's local budget, remains subject to the approval of Congress.[24] The Home Rule Act specifically prohibits the Council from enacting certain laws that, among other restrictions, would:[25] lend public credit for private projects; impose a tax on individuals who work in the District but live elsewhere; make any changes to the Heights of Buildings Act of 1910; pass any law changing the composition or jurisdiction of the local courts; enact a local budget that is not balanced; and gain any additional authority over the National Capital Planning Commission, Washington Aqueduct, or District of Columbia National Guard. As noted, the Home Rule Act prohibits the District from imposing a commuter tax on non-residents who make up over 60% of the city's workforce. In addition, over 50% of property in the District is also exempt from taxation.[26] The Government Accountability Office and other organizations have estimated that these revenue restrictions create a structural deficit in the city's budget of anywhere between $470 million and over $1 billion per year.[26][27][28] While Congress typically provides larger grants to the District for federal programs such as Medicaid and the local justice system, analysts claim that the payments do not resolve the imbalance.[27][28]
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No it isn't. That's ridiculous. For instance the government is not a construction company. They solicit bids for work and then sift through competing bids. The government can't even effectively monitor the work.
There's a big difference between contracting for construction, and contracting for trash pickup.
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Not in Congress. It is Unconstitutional. It does have it's own government that collects taxes and runs the municipality.
It is not unconstitutional. You really do have a limited understanding of these topics, don't you. The constitution grants congress full authority over DC. It is completely in the hands of congress as to how much democracy the residents of DC are allowed.
The Constitution makes no provision whatsoever for there to be either a Senator or a Representative from the Washington DC territory. These things are reserved to the states.
Does DC not have an elected mayor and council (or whatever it is called)? Do they not run the schools and whatnot? Do they not collect taxes?
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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So the 2 party system is doing its job here. polarizing the people while the rich get richer and the poor poorer. It is a perfect storm to keep the voters occupied with each other while they, the politicians do whats best for whose hand is in their back pocket.
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koods said: Actually, the most inefficient way to allocate resources is to give contracts to for profit corporations to do the things that government should be doing itself..
No it isn't. That's ridiculous. For instance the government is not a construction company. They solicit bids for work and then sift through competing bids. The government can't even effectively monitor the work.
There's a big difference between contracting for construction, and contracting for trash pickup.
Ummmm no. Lots of towns and cities contract out their trash pickup
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: unknown1123]
#18922963 - 10/02/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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unknown1123 said: So the 2 party system is doing its job here. polarizing the people while the rich get richer and the poor poorer. It is a perfect storm to keep the voters occupied with each other while they, the politicians do whats best for whose hand is in their back pocket.
Keep on keeping on

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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18922972 - 10/02/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I was under the impression that DC doesn't have its own representatives?
Not in Congress. It is Unconstitutional. It does have it's own government that collects taxes and runs the municipality.
It is not unconstitutional. You really do have a limited understanding of these topics, don't you. The constitution grants congress full authority over DC. It is completely in the hands of congress as to how much democracy the residents of DC are allowed.
The Constitution makes no provision whatsoever for there to be either a Senator or a Representative from the Washington DC territory. These things are reserved to the states.
Does DC not have an elected mayor and council (or whatever it is called)? Do they not run the schools and whatnot? Do they not collect taxes?
Read the wiki article I posted above. All of these things are through laws passed by congress. Congress could give DC voting representation, but the republicans do not want another democratic vote in congress. As for taxes, a majority of people who work in DC live in MD or VA. Out of state residents take advantage of DC services all day and pay not a single cent for them.
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No it isn't. That's ridiculous. For instance the government is not a construction company. They solicit bids for work and then sift through competing bids. The government can't even effectively monitor the work.
There's a big difference between contracting for construction, and contracting for trash pickup.
Ummmm no. Lots of towns and cities contract out their trash pickup
Yes. Republican ideology at work. Costing more money and making a profit for someone on the backs of taxpayers.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18922996 - 10/02/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
You're a fucking Canadian. You have nothing to say.
Yeah we have a say. We're kinda right there next to you guys on the same continent. We're also your main trading partner and your best ally. We both exchange international intelligence to each other. We're not Mexico and our economies are welded together. Therefore we have the right to critic you guys, but I will admit that our opinions are worthless to the debate unless you choose to listen to one. Different perspective you know
You personally, as a Canadian, have consistently proven that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about vis a vis the United States.
Naw man, I probably know more about the US than the average US citizen. You're extremely conservative and I'm not.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Patlal]
#18923010 - 10/02/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's funny what the conservatives on this site have to say and what they say on Fox Neas are often the same, down to the exact wording. It's like they are being programmed.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18923042 - 10/02/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not in Congress. It is Unconstitutional. It does have it's own government that collects taxes and runs the municipality.
It is not unconstitutional. You really do have a limited understanding of these topics, don't you. The constitution grants congress full authority over DC. It is completely in the hands of congress as to how much democracy the residents of DC are allowed.
The Constitution makes no provision whatsoever for there to be either a Senator or a Representative from the Washington DC territory. These things are reserved to the states.
Does DC not have an elected mayor and council (or whatever it is called)? Do they not run the schools and whatnot? Do they not collect taxes?
Read the wiki article I posted above. All of these things are through laws passed by congress. Congress could give DC voting representation, but the republicans do not want another democratic vote in congress. As for taxes, a majority of people who work in DC live in MD or VA. Out of state residents take advantage of DC services all day and pay not a single cent for them.
So? There are 600.000+ people who live in DC. DC has a mayor, a council levies taxes and exerts control on huge swaths of its populace. Quote:
There is a constitutional amendment that provides that DC residents can vote for president and that the winner receives three electoral votes.
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No it isn't. That's ridiculous. For instance the government is not a construction company. They solicit bids for work and then sift through competing bids. The government can't even effectively monitor the work.
There's a big difference between contracting for construction, and contracting for trash pickup.
Ummmm no. Lots of towns and cities contract out their trash pickup
Yes. Republican ideology at work. Costing more money and making a profit for someone on the backs of taxpayers.
They do it because it is cheaper thus saving the taxpayer money.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Patlal]
#18923058 - 10/02/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because you have elected them. Also, to make you guys realize that you're no as untouchable and all mighty like guys think you are.
You're a fucking Canadian. You have nothing to say.
Yeah we have a say. We're kinda right there next to you guys on the same continent. We're also your main trading partner and your best ally. We both exchange international intelligence to each other. We're not Mexico and our economies are welded together. Therefore we have the right to critic you guys, but I will admit that our opinions are worthless to the debate unless you choose to listen to one. Different perspective you know
You personally, as a Canadian, have consistently proven that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about vis a vis the United States.
Naw man, I probably know more about the US than the average US citizen. You're extremely conservative and I'm not.
The average US citizen can't name the Vice President. That has nothing to do with your lack of understanding
I am only fiscally conservative.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18923060 - 10/02/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They do it because it is cheaper thus saving the taxpayer money.
Except it usually isn't cheape.
Not to mention that government contracting is easily the number one way government is defrauded on a daily basis.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18923064 - 10/02/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: It's funny what the conservatives on this site have to say and what they say on Fox Neas are often the same, down to the exact wording. It's like they are being programmed.
I don't watch Fox News. You sound exactly like Rachel Madcow. Say baaa.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18923078 - 10/02/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rachel Maddow is awesome, and could intellectually wipe the floor with the entire Fox News staff.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18923083 - 10/02/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry, poor getting more handouts!
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18923111 - 10/02/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I could depants the hideous moron. I have no idea what the Fox people could do since I don't watch them.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: unknown1123]
#18923113 - 10/02/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep. More shit for bums to buy votes.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18923140 - 10/02/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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All we are asking for is to give the American people the same break Obama (illegally) extended to big business and the unions. That and making the elite in our government live by the same rules the rest of us have to play by. Hardly unfair.
Fuck Obama and Harry Reid!
You should get down on your knees and thank our God for the Tea Parties. At least there are some adults in the room.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: mpd]
#18923160 - 10/02/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck Obama and Harry Reid!
You should get down on your knees and thank our God for the Tea Parties. At least there are some adults in the room.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18923243 - 10/02/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I could depants the hideous moron. I have no idea what the Fox people could do since I don't watch them.
Yes. She's a moronic Rhodes scholar. Another characteristic of conservative ideology: Intelligence and education are to be ridiculed and demeaned. There's a reason why higher education is dominated by liberals - conservatives aren't intellectually equipped for learning and teaching environments.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18923313 - 10/02/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Rachel Maddow is awesome, and could intellectually wipe the floor with the entire Fox News staff.
I could depants the hideous moron. I have no idea what the Fox people could do since I don't watch them.
Yes. She's a moronic Rhodes scholar. Another characteristic of conservative ideology: Intelligence and education are to be ridiculed and demeaned. There's a reason why higher education is dominated by liberals - conservatives aren't intellectually equipped for learning and teaching environments.
Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar as well and he doesn't know what "is" means.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Well this thread is going downhill quick. Having worked for a gov't contractor in the past though, I've got to say it goes both ways. Davis-Bacon made sure everyone was getting paid way more than they signed up for, so clearly not the best stewardship of tax dollars there. AND I can remember the company clearly taking advantage of the govt. For example, I recall having to work 60 hour weeks for a few months even though we were on schedule. Something about a paperwork error and we had to meet a certain requirement for man hours for that period.
Clearly either management of contractors at the federal level is completely mismanaged or there's just so much red tape that its easy to get a lawyer and find loopholes everywhere. Or both.
As for things like trash service, go ahead and do it on the city or town level but I have no interest in going through the gov't for those types of services. For the most part, I want to be served by the private sector. In general, they will get the job done quick and clean to keep me as a customer and to move on to the next customer. I dont see how profit motive and competition could possibly be a bad thing for me as a consumer. They want to service me in order to get more of my money.
The gov't just needs to A) quit favoring union work and B) keep closer tabs on their contractors and I think we'll get the best deal for our tax money.
That and cut out all the red tape. Working on a gov't jobsite seemed more like one long safety class than an actual job. Everyone moved at a snails pace and the resulting general attitude just sucked. It seemed like following a shitload of rules all day just made everyone depressed even though we were all making crazy money.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Big_Dave]
#18923345 - 10/02/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Leave the government shut down. Have the states appoint a interstate dispute court, and a volunteer militia. Fuck the federal government. Let it disappear. Have the states seize control of the fed.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: Nymphaea]
#18923446 - 10/02/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or maybe people could stop electing retards like Louie Gohmert to congress. Jesus Christ, what a embarrassment these tea party yokels are.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18926927 - 10/03/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh my god, the gaffes! We all know that if you aren't perfect all the time than you're just a yokel! Like this guy:
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: koods]
#18927104 - 10/03/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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if they do come back i hope they start wearing acapulco shirts. gawd i hate those soul less suits.
the gov needs a big change, it needs more color to the mix, it needs people of ALL backgrounds. Smart, dumb, tall, short, rich and poor, etc.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zZZz]
#18927199 - 10/03/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I second this motion. And clown noses
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#18927219 - 10/03/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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basically they should just come in their casual outfits.
don't be shy gov, i wont judge your clown nose.
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Re: OH!! FUCKING SHIT THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!! [Re: zZZz]
#18927262 - 10/03/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actually I was looking at it as a mark of shame. We should be able to readily identify these people on sight so as to treat them with the respect they deserve.
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