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A Rumination On Reincarnation.
#18907795 - 09/29/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How does the mechanism of rebirth work; Is it between unlinked entities based on Karma, or directly through bloodlines as Claimed by George.Hunt-Williamson (aka-Michael d' Obrenovic)?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: tribesman]
#18907972 - 09/29/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All bloodlines lead back to the one, thus there is truly only one original bloodline.
On an interesting side note, if you are one to believe in the bloodline theory.
The current 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, has stated that he will not be reborn in the People's Republic of China, since he now resides in exile and does not wish his next incarnation to become a puppet of the PRC in the ongoing occupation of Tibet.
I believe he has stated his next incarnation, may or may not happen, and that if it does, he may or may not come back as a Tibetan, so imagine the next spiritual leader and practical leader of Tibetan and much of Buddhism, may happen to return as a red haired Irishman, or African, it is all a grab bag now
If you have ever heard the infectious laugh of Tenzin Gyatso, I personally think he simply enjoys making statements like that, to flummox and confuse the PRC, since they will no doubt attempt to say they have found the next incarnation of the Dalai Lama first, preempting the tradition of the High Lamas of the Gelugpa tradition and the Tibetan government to find his reincarnation.
food for thought.
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Lazarus.Long]
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: teknix]
#18909331 - 09/29/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: teknix]
#18915353 - 10/01/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only thing cooler than this gif would be if he could actually do that
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Chuckfinely]
#18915400 - 10/01/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dunno, but got reinserted into my body
definitely not the person I used to be , but that's only good I think 
sacrifice your old self, build a new self 
when the time comes you might get another chance on this earth if you really wish so I think don't think there are rules that you must never go here again
I believe in karma and that all is one soul (live for the good of others and yourself) karma is just hard to observe, but it makes much sense I think one soul is easier to notice
the family I know I feel like I've known for a long time, even the family I met I hadn't known before, my uncle is exactly like myself in every way lol - but first met him recently
don't think there are any coincidences..
but if you have kids you might reincarnate perhaps  almost a sure way to reincarnate ? but dunno
its funny how much we look like our parents sometimes, even if we deny it
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: lessismore]
#18915463 - 10/01/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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making others happy makes yourself happy, that's karma that is easily observable
not caring about others/the earth makes yourself miserable sooner or later, karma too
tried both
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: tribesman] 1
#18916298 - 10/01/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think it could go any way, you could have been an animal, you could have looked very similar to your current individuality, you could have been a lot like your dad...so yes basically I attribute it to Karma, but I also attribute bloodlines to karma so I do not see it as an either/or situation.
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: g00ru]
#18917052 - 10/01/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think just as some people can recall past lives, or even glimpse future ones; that it is plausible to be able to shift our conscious presence back and forth along These blood/life lines?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: tribesman]
#18917125 - 10/01/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i do believe it is possible to remember past lives...in the same way that one can learn more about present life karma. how it happens im not sure, but it would probably be in a purely pragmatic way...
for instance, you might have a vision of a past life, and it would explain so many things about the present life, that for you it would be inherently acceptable. i've never had a vision or dream like that however.
but i am pretty sure past lives make sense, if nothing else because certain aspects of our own lives have causes that stretch from before our birth, and may go beyond our death as well. if you are purely a materialist you might attribute this all to biology and sociology, but if you have any knowledge of the spirit/soul then you might see that it makes good sense to think that it's coming from within us as well as outside of us.
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: g00ru]
#18917270 - 10/01/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I suppose it has to do with whether our lives are predetermined, and so free will, or are we independent entities that carry karmic baggage. I am interested in the physicality of consciousness and how it could energize one ego after another. For it is the ego imo that creates the sense of separate individuals living out their life choices. Does the raw awareness behind the ego not permeate all life? I have too many related questions and I'm not sure I'm able to put them all down here with any degree of coherency, for this I apologise
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: tribesman]
#18918354 - 10/01/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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tribesman said: Does the raw awareness behind the ego not permeate all life?
i believe it does, and also think this suggests translocation of soul, or 'life after life' basically.
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: g00ru]
#18919533 - 10/02/13 03:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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and what about other living things? or do you think humans special?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Icelander]
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Icelander]
#18921786 - 10/02/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: and what about other living things? or do you think humans special?
no way...just different species. we are kind of unique it seems but I don't think we are intrinsically different. Animals have souls okay?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: g00ru]
#18922417 - 10/02/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bacteria too? How about viruses?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Icelander]
#18922449 - 10/02/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The soul could be a shadow cast by the ego on our awareness. just sayin'
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Icelander]
#18923972 - 10/02/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: bacteria too? How about viruses?
thats practically pure life. i see a larger intelligence in the universe...you could call that the mind of god.
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: g00ru]
#18924239 - 10/03/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about answering the question?
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Re: A Rumination On Reincarnation. [Re: Icelander]
#18924585 - 10/03/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: How about answering the question?

I like to think we're like serotonin. We are born into the world with a rush of vitality, take our effect on the organism of the planet and eachother, and then separate back into the planet and recycle our energy and matter.
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