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InTheBiggun
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You guys must not be reading my question correctly. Why is it stupid? Give me some logical reasons.
It's not that its stupid...
The biggest resistance to what 'team-annie is preaching is the rampant claims that it is better, that bulk grows (or any other way) whether that be manure, coir, straw...lawn-clippings etc etc, anything but straight grains with chem-ferts, is outdated tek, bad, and should be replaced any not recommended to "noobs", which according to team-annie is anyone who is not a "pro".
The vast majority of OMC growers are average citizen ,hobby growers, not professional commercial growers.
How can anyone call the following "bad tek"? :
- all bulk growing methods. - vermiculite - tub grows - log grows - buckets(or any other non-pp5 vessel - polyfil - popcorn - PF tek (even though new-agers use BRF as a corner stone) - invitro grows - outdoor growing - any lighting but blue LED - sunlight - pasteurization
These are the bad teks and procedures according to team-annie, even though these teks never claimed superiority or slandered other teks or ways.
Here's the thing... if you had a great new innovative tek, what would you do...?
Would you attack, belittle and call-down every tek that came before you and provide the flimsiest of proof in the way of documented proof as to your claims...to the point of calling massive amounts of people "Amish turd farmers"... all in the name of promoting your "better" tek?
Or would you, with respect say, hey I have this great new idea, here's the photographic proof, hats off to all the people we borrowed ideas from, this idea isn't better, its just good and proven.
The OMC is a family, albeit a dysfunctional family. People aught not attack other teks then their own and claim "best of teks". Thats just bullshit hyperbole.
If you think about it... there's never in the history of the OMC been a person, or group of people to claim that they have the best, highest yielding tek in the entire mushroom growing community... plus all other teks are outdated and inferior. This is unprecedented in OMC history.
In closing its not that chem-fert/all grain grows or BRF/fert slush should not be used... its that its not better, and bulk grows are not inferior/bad... we've got proof in the form of hundreds of thousands of threads and pictures.
Just present your damn new ideas. Forget about a crusade against "bulk" grows, PF tek, vermiculite, etc.
Annie is the most ignored user in the history of the Shroomery because he attacks other teks while claiming superiority instead of sharing new info with honor.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: InTheBiggun] 1
#19133863 - 11/13/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you think this beats all bulk grows... or even PF tek cakes, and that it revolutionizes mushroom cultivation to the point that bulk growing should not be recommended...
 Annes best pic of what trumps every other grow method.
... then I don't know what to say besides I strongly disagree.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: InTheBiggun]
#19133881 - 11/13/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not saying the idea of hydroponic shrooms is better than traditional methods at all, by the way, I was just tryin' to get logical answers out of people for why the idea isn't good.
And Anne was able to grow a few shrooms hydroponically? Nice!
I'd say her experiment was a success, at a small scale.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: 404]
#19133896 - 11/13/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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StateOfMind404 said: Life... are you aware of what a 'liquid culture' is? this is essentially what 'mycelium-colonized nutritive liquid' is....
nothing has really been "solved". Liquid culture is used to speed up colonization times.
Ya I've read about liquid cultures a little, it's been a few years, though.
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StateOfMind404 said: Basically, all that user described was if you stuck a bit of mesh in a jar of liquid culture. it's really nothing groundbreaking at all. it's silly rather.
Ah, I see haha. 
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StateOfMind404 said: again there are a lot of steps you have to go through after that to get anything decent growing.
Ya I know, I grew shrooms 4 years ago.
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InTheBiggun
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I'm not saying the idea of hydroponic shrooms is better than traditional methods at all, by the way,
No, but the proponents of said "new age" teks do regularly...
Would you agree there's a way of bringing new ideas to the table without belittling everyone using different teks as backwards, inferior, Amish turd farming "buckateers"?
There's just got to be a better way is all I'm saying.
Anne Halonium is the most ignored person at the shroomery for a reason...and that reason is not innovation, its for arrogant bad attitude and condemning things like bulk grows, pasteurization & PF tek.
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: I'm not saying the idea of hydroponic shrooms is better than traditional methods at all, by the way, I was just tryin' to get logical answers out of people for why the idea isn't good.
And Anne was able to grow a few shrooms hydroponically? Nice!
I'd say her experiment was a success, at a small scale.
IT'S NOT GOOD BECAUSE THAT ISN'T THE WAY THAT MUSHROOMS FUCKING GROW. PERIOD. IF YOU EVER GROW MUSHROOM IN LIQUID, LET US FUCKING KNOW.
YOU TRY AND POST SHIT FROM RR SAYING THAT MYCELIUM CAN BE GROWN IN LIQUID, YEAH NO FUCKING SHIT, EVERY NOOB WITH A SPORE SYRINGE AND SOME HONEY GROWS MYCELIUM IN A FUCKING LIQUID.
IT IS CLEAR YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO FUCKING GIVE IT UP.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: InTheBiggun]
#19133988 - 11/13/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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InTheBiggun said: Anne Halonium is the most ignored person at the shroomery for a reason...and that reason is not innovation, its for arrogant bad attitude and condemning things like bulk grows, pasteurization & PF tek.

She claims she grows so many shrooms she puts them in a pillow case and puts it in the drier on tumble dry 
Never trust a word that "woman" says.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: InTheBiggun]
#19134018 - 11/13/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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InTheBiggun said:
Would you agree there's a way of bringing new ideas to the table without belittling everyone using different teks as backwards, inferior, Amish turd farming "buckateers"?
Of course! I must have not read the posts where Anne said those things.
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InTheBiggun said: Anne Halonium is the most ignored person at the shroomery for a reason...and that reason is not innovation, its for arrogant bad attitude and condemning things like bulk grows, pasteurization & PF tek.
I see. While I agree that it is foolish to be arrogant towards other teks such as bulk grows, pasteurization & PF tek, I think Anne is still a funny poster.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134026 - 11/13/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: I'm not saying the idea of hydroponic shrooms is better than traditional methods at all, by the way, I was just tryin' to get logical answers out of people for why the idea isn't good.
And Anne was able to grow a few shrooms hydroponically? Nice!
I'd say her experiment was a success, at a small scale.
IT'S NOT GOOD BECAUSE THAT ISN'T THE WAY THAT MUSHROOMS FUCKING GROW. PERIOD. IF YOU EVER GROW MUSHROOM IN LIQUID, LET US FUCKING KNOW.
YOU TRY AND POST SHIT FROM RR SAYING THAT MYCELIUM CAN BE GROWN IN LIQUID, YEAH NO FUCKING SHIT, EVERY NOOB WITH A SPORE SYRINGE AND SOME HONEY GROWS MYCELIUM IN A FUCKING LIQUID.
IT IS CLEAR YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO FUCKING GIVE IT UP.
/rant

Some one is feisty. And bro, I was just trying to have a mature conversation about shroom growing teks, but I guess you aren't capable of that.
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There is nothing mature about talking abut hydro mushrooms.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134067 - 11/13/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: There is nothing mature about talking abut hydro mushrooms.
How about the theory of hydro shrooms and ways to make it work?
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Well, how about this for a theory. Hydroponic is a term reserved for growing plants.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134112 - 11/14/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Well, how about this for a theory. Hydroponic is a term reserved for growing plants.
Ya, but then how did Anne grow some shrooms hydroponically?
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She didn't.
She's full of shit, which is why she has been kicked out of every OMC she has been a part of. If the Shroomery weren't so lax with its rules, and this wouldn't be the last major cultivation board she is a part of, nobody would ever read her shit posts agian.
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Why does it have to be a competition between the various teks, with king-Anne on top?
Why can't it be use whatever works for you and is cheaply/readily available? Including tried & true methods like bulk grows or cakes, logs, tubs, outdoor beds, straw, pasteurization etc, etc...
This whole "our way is best" , avoid the rest approach is actually harmful to the OMC and its prime directive (to help people grow shrooms).
Can you think of any other time or group of people in OMC history that said "our way is the highest yielding", "bulk growing is a waste and inferior yield", "pasteurization is bad tek", "glass jars are bad", "vermiculite is bad", "tub growing is shitty and inferior", "whatever you do don't use PF-tek/BRF" (even though they use BRF)...
It's not hydroponic. It's ground brown rice flour and water "slurry"... aka same as PF tek for nutes, even though team-annie condemns PF tek at any chance they get.
Seriously, who does that?
The "bulk is bad", Annie's way is better "movement" is the first group of people to friendly-fire against previous teks and claim superiority... all without documented proof of said superiority that I can ever remember in all the OMC.
It is funny on some levels. But its also unfortunate the way "they" approach the whole thing.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: InTheBiggun] 2
#19134133 - 11/14/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like how you put "they."
I feel as though most of these people are just alts/puppets that Anne has made to help build her reputation as the most unreliable mushroom "growers" of all time.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134158 - 11/14/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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InTheBiggun said: Why does it have to be a competition between the various teks, with king-Anne on top?
I'm not making it a competition. Sorry if it appears that way.
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InTheBiggun said: It's not hydroponic. It's ground brown rice flour and water "slurry"
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Mush4Brains said: She didn't.
Ah, okay.
Wow, well this has been crazy haha. I need to sleeppppp.
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and yet, it can be done.....................

250 ml culture bottles, fruited under 450 nm LED. ( those unfamiliar with those bottles, they are about 6 inches tall)
some say hydro, some dont. its obviously boomers drinking all nutes, on an inert sub. define it as ya wish, anywhere else a wet lunch is hydro.
we laff our heads off about this. it never dawns on ANYONE , that if a small pom and tbsp of slush can grow a few boomers, then a bunch of poms and a bunch of liquid would , duh , grow lots.
common sense says i know more about this than im letting on ATM, and ,it petrifies the kids.
these are just the starter bottles for 2 liter tanks. you guys are gonna go BONKERS , when ya see the scale version.
just cant buy this type of fun at any price.
ok im still working on my annie award acceptance speech..........
focus here is on the annie award, and ostrich choice! poms are coming...... im still debating my winter season grow tek threads.
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Re: anne halonium made the top 5... [Re: anne halonium]
#19136134 - 11/14/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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well this is interesting.
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#19136515 - 11/14/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i know . jaguarette VS ostrich row= tasty.
ok so poms in bottles grow boomers. what if i had a tub full of poms? lol, youll find out out.
those pics are like holy water fire hoses against vampires. vampires, might wanna build an arc, before the main teks comes out.
but not ATM, working on acceptance speech still.
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