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what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books?
#18914142 - 10/01/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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???
name some for the pub.
Siddartha by Herman Hesse
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914145 - 10/01/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not a book but I just finished Euthyphro by Plato.
Interesting read on the subject of ethics
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: NWlight]
#18914160 - 10/01/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, good call. i want to read some of that old timey craziness. or at least skim through it, give a look see. thanks.
Plato.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914229 - 10/01/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Black genesis by robert bauval
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#18914239 - 10/01/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow, deep man. 
LOL, no, seriously, thanks. nice. i'll be looking into that one. that's a weird one. i believe it.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#18914240 - 10/01/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hobb
Every book, every trilogy (or more) ... pure fucking awesome
pure fantasy though.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914245 - 10/01/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Siddhartha is a good one for sure. I'd have to say 1984 was pretty sweet.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: nicechrisman]
#18914247 - 10/01/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Liveship Traders Trilogy sounds like the one ill have to check out.
thanks, man. fantasy is little but i'll give it a shot. a nautical theme sounds decent to me.  Quote:
nicechrisman said: Siddhartha is a good one for sure. I'd have to say 1984 was pretty sweet.
yeah, the only Herman Hesse book i've read is Siddhartha. yah.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914249 - 10/01/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been meaning to read Steppenwolfe and The Glass Bead Game.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914256 - 10/01/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Political ponerology, excellent break down of tyrannical power structures.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18914262 - 10/01/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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man, that sounds like some very thoughtful stuff. the fact that The Glass Bead Game was apparently his last full length novel intrigues me as well.Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: Political ponerology, excellent break down of tyrannical power structures.
*tips hat* right on, that one sounds pertinent.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18914263 - 10/01/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds interesting
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: nicechrisman]
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18914474 - 10/01/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well you should off course read Kant's Critique der reinen Vernunft. But this will probably take forever.
Another nice one that is basically Kantian but backs it up with knowledge gained from recent neurological research is Making up the Mind by Chris Frith.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18931439 - 10/04/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931534 - 10/04/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Vriska Serket]
#18931719 - 10/04/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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good idea, i forgot about that one.
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i do need to get some Burroughs books.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931738 - 10/04/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've wanted to read The brothers Karamozov, never had though. Supposedly fits what you're looking for, i think.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: TheMule73]
#18931803 - 10/04/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn, that sounds good too.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931827 - 10/04/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Wind Up Bird Chronicle by Murakami
its intense
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931829 - 10/04/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sirens of titan by kurt vonegut or any of his other books
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: 4nik8]
#18931857 - 10/04/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blackburn by Bradley Denton... nice black comedy that makes ya look deep at what really makes a man a bad man...
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4nik8 said: Sirens of titan by Kurt Vonnegut or any of his other books
any Vonnegut really... it's all good...
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: leon trout]
#18931879 - 10/04/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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naturally any book that gets posted in here, i'm gonna look up the author too, and see about his other works and shit. 
Blackburn is apparently about a "sympathetic serial killer". sounds interesting.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931910 - 10/04/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tao Teh Ching by Laozi
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931934 - 10/04/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the diving bell & the butterfly
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: yogabunny]
#18931964 - 10/04/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Legend said: Tao Teh Ching by Laozi
yikes, sounds great but i read that the translation (naturally being ancient Chinese) is gonna be impeccably difficult to process, as it was originally intended to be read in Chinese.
oh well, i can draw my own conclusions from it. surely i can find this in PDF form.
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locked in syndrome eh? sounds depressing.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18931984 - 10/04/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's SO inspiring and beautiful!
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: yogabunny]
#18931987 - 10/04/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seed for the soul
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: yogabunny]
#18932005 - 10/04/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yogabunny said: it's SO inspiring and beautiful!
well, the guy probably eagerly wants to get out of his locked in state, because really there is nothing more he can do other then hope; unless they take him off health support.
pretty damn inspiring and beautiful and depressing.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932130 - 10/04/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been reading it from a philosophical point of view. Not religious if that helps you when you read it.
But I know what you mean, about the translation. Maybe one day I'll learn Chinese to get a better interpretation. Haha.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Legend]
#18932137 - 10/04/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, apparently, not alot of people can speak ancient Chinese fluently anymore. 
but thanks for the suggestion, i like reading this kinda of books for philosophical insight. that's why i read Siddhartha.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932452 - 10/04/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're going to go down the tao teh ching route, then definitely pick up a few copies or put some time into which translator you are going to read. Some of the stuff out there--thought I don't know chinese--nonetheless still seems like a shitty translation.
Another recommendation: The Complete Works of Chuang Tzu, translated by Burton Watson. A definite must read if you are into Toaism at all. One of my favorite sections/chapters would be section 23, btw.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: g00ru]
#18932459 - 10/04/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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g00ru said: The Wind Up Bird Chronicle by Murakami
its intense
Dude I love Murakami. "Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World" is the only book I've read by him, but it was amazing.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: NetDiver]
#18932490 - 10/04/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I suppose you already red Analects of Confucius?
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: NetDiver]
#18932508 - 10/04/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said:
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g00ru said: The Wind Up Bird Chronicle by Murakami
its intense
Dude I love Murakami. "Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World" is the only book I've read by him, but it was amazing.
thats the one i have yet to read. probably will though. Murakami gets pretty deep...
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: g00ru]
#18932527 - 10/04/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude, waht is it supposed to be about? wiki says notin' on it.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932562 - 10/04/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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here's WUBC which is his most famous. but dont read the plot summary! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind-Up_Bird_Chronicle
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932584 - 10/04/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently got done with the Catcher in the Rye after seeing it on sale. It's crazy how much more enjoyable a book is when you're not being forced to read it for English class.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932616 - 10/04/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the stranger by albert camus

^it's only the length of a novella (between 100-150 pages) but it touches on such fascinating themes and ideas relevant to existentialism (or more accurately, absurdism) i read it in a single sitting in the wee hours of the morning on stimulants, having foregone sleep. once i hit the halfway point i was so engrossed in it that there was no way i would be putting it down before finishing it. it instantly found a place among my favorite books, and affected the way i see the world & life. an important thing to mention is that even though it was written by a philosopher and touches on philosophical themes, it's a work of fiction, not some sort of treatise that is tedious to read & doesn't require any knowledge of complex abstract jargon to understand.
i also agree with those who recommended kurt vonnegut's body of work. if i had to choose i'd recommend cat's cradle in particular, that's my favorite of his books by quite a wide margin, but of course slaughter-house five, breakfast of champions, the sirens of titan & player piano are all great too.
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#18932758 - 10/04/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meditations - Marcus Aurelius Discourses of Epictetus (changed my life in a big way)
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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anything by Phillip K. Dick.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932797 - 10/04/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Legend said: Tao Teh Ching by Laozi
yikes, sounds great but i read that the translation (naturally being ancient Chinese) is gonna be impeccably difficult to process, as it was originally intended to be read in Chinese.
oh well, i can draw my own conclusions from it. surely i can find this in PDF form.
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yogabunny said: the diving bell & the butterfly
locked in syndrome eh? sounds depressing.
or you could try the Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff (like winnie the poo, there is also a Tao of Piglet I think - I read both for martial arts study back in the day). It's eastern philosophy in western friendly format.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: lowbrow]
#18932897 - 10/04/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm reading him too.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
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i love philip k. dick. 'the man in the high castle', 'flow my tears the policeman said' and 'do androids dream of electric sheep' are my favorites. i'm an evangelist for boom! studios's line for line adaptation of 'androids' for comics. excellent.
i'll also throw in voltaire's 'candide'. phiosophy texts are amazing, but they can make for very tedious and difficult reading even with an instructor to flesh out what ideas are being argued for and whatever other context is relevant to those texts. 'candide' however is a novel and it's a great starter for people new to philosophy. it's also just a damn good book.
i also really enjoyed reading j.d. sallinger's 'franny and zooey'. just like 'candide', funny and quite profound.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: millzy]
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do androids dream of electric sheep, he wrote that? nice. i didn't know that. i'm read the Divine Invasion.
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'candide' however is a novel and it's a great starter for people new to philosophy. it's also just a damn good book.
thanks, i could use a "starter" book.
i am getting so many suggestions, guys, thanks a lot.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932986 - 10/04/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values by Robert M. Pirsig
Confessions by St. Augustine
Fear: The History of a Political Idea by Corey Robin
Easy books to read as well.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: millzy]
#18933006 - 10/04/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, and i'll also add that if you're wanting to start with philosophy and 'candide' doesn't seem like your thing, aristotle might be a good place to start. i'm a big fan of plato, but you have to be very acquainted with the themes and context associated with his dialogs or the important stuff will go right over your head. aristotle is much more straight forward and not as context dependent as plato or other philosophers.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18933030 - 10/04/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This translation, from what I understand, comes pretty close to the real deal.
It had help in translation by Gia Fu Feng, a world-renowned Taoist translator/teacher who taught in the US.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Konichiwaffle]
#18933060 - 10/04/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh, also, if you are interested in reading some of the best philosophy that came out of the 20th century.....based on my (a nobody's) opinion, of course....than look into Wittgenstein. Philosophical Investigations, On Certainty, and the Tractatus would be good to read.
A lot of people I talk to about him seem to have never heard of him before, so here is the wiki link of him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Konichiwaffle]
#18933064 - 10/04/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This translation, from what I understand, comes pretty close to the real deal.
It had help in translation by Gia Fu Feng, a world-renowned Taoist translator/teacher who taught in the US.
thanks, i'll try and find that one.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18935973 - 10/05/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#18936168 - 10/05/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're into metaethics, check out "Whatever Happened to Good and Evil" by Russ Shafer-Landau. It provided some compelling arguments for an objective morality.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Hemlock]
#18936214 - 10/05/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The art of War by Sun Tzu, its about a famous Chinese commander General who existed many century's ago who was of the greatest Generals of all time. Infact some modern day Chinese generals still use his teachings. You can even apply his teaching to every day dilemmas
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: geazerpleaser]
#18936219 - 10/05/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ulysses by James Joyce.
You'll get a literary boner before the first chapter is read.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: hTx]
#18936259 - 10/05/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you want an easy reading intro to philosophy you should read Sophie's World.
Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18936421 - 10/05/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
the joyce's one or the homer original? because I red the homer's one and while beign very tedious at times it's something everyone can enjoy.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Synth Ethics]
#18936504 - 10/05/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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first ptaahotep laid it down. then Amenemope. then lao tzu. then plato.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Synth Ethics]
#18936538 - 10/05/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Synth Ethics said:
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Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
the joyce's one or the homer original? because I red the homer's one and while beign very tedious at times it's something everyone can enjoy.
The Joyce one
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18936803 - 10/05/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd say Ulysses was very readable/enjoyable.
Finnegans Wake, however...
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: hTx]
#18936880 - 10/05/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche was...ya
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#18936888 - 10/05/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Legend]
#18936986 - 10/05/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I prefer his other works
TSZ is just the nieTZSche doctrine in literary form
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: morrowasted]
#18937330 - 10/05/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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are the capital letters supposed to signify something?
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#18937510 - 10/05/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no i just thought it was cool that those three letters appeared in a row in both his name and the acronym for thus spake Zarathustra
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: morrowasted]
#18937821 - 10/05/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dunno if it's been suggested yet but Ishmael(Daniel Quinn) is one of my favorites, when I first read it I found it very thought provoking, had never even thought about humanity in that light before and I can definitely say it changed how I see things permanently.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: pirate-blues]
#18938037 - 10/05/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Conversations With God. The title says it all. After you read the first chapter you can't put it down. Really good for the soul.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: mpd]
#18938077 - 10/05/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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please. more. more knowledge.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18938169 - 10/05/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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name some for the pub.
Siddartha by Herman Hesse
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Siddartha, what a great book!
I read Siddartha and Candide at the same time and they reflected similarly upon each other.
I would like to add 'A Country Doctor' by Sarah Orne Jewett
'Mainstreet' by Sinclair Lewis
'The House of Mirth' by Edith Warthon
This small collection presents issues on Gender roles and many other contexts of American life, from the 19th and early 20th century view.
Color writing.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: XUL]
#18938303 - 10/05/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recommend The Way of Zen, it's pretty dense.
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