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Invisiblehappyfunguy
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edible? ID's please?
    #18912862 - 09/30/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I greatly apologize for the crappy photos, but my camera's a cheap POS with no Macro and it tends to wash out out-door photos. Imagine all the outdoor shots 1-3 shades darker. I'll try to compensate w/ descriptions.

edited title to reflect further research. I'm pretty sure #2 is an Scleroderma sp., but not sure if it's is edible. It smells "truffy," but most of what I've read suggests earthballs aren't to be consumed.
my now educated guess is Scleroderma laeve. Not edible, right?


Habitat:
the first 2 are on a (1)conifer stump, probably fir and (2)its root-system. poorly kept lawn, non-coastal SW WA.

Gills:
(1) pores, white to pinkish-orange; (2) none discernible, enclosed fruit-body.

Stem:
(1) none visible without harvesting, which I'm trying to avoid unless I'm gonna eat it; (2) barely any, just enough to individuate one from another, what there is is solid, ever so slightly tan tinged white.

Cap:
(1) the larger of 2 clusters is ~10cm wide at its widest, but has grown over the last couple days; color orangey/pinkish brown darker in the center fading to almost white at the edges; (2) the largest is ~10cm the smallest harvested was just over 5. until you turn it over or cut it in 1/2 they look exactly like small brown potatoes. once you cut 'em open though... the inside is a deep, rich almost solid black/brown peppered with minutely white/light brown mostly rising from the base. 

Spore print color: (1) N/A yet, (2) not possible,

Bruising: none for either AFAIK

Other information: smell: (1) meaty mushroomy, (2) delicious - very rich and earthy, but something else too... a very slight hint of pepper maybe? whatever it is, my mouth may as well be pavlov's dog's when I breathe the aroma of a split fruiting body.

I've never posted a pic here before, nor have I ever done any ID request, (I hope I'm doing OK,) so please bare with me:

1.
[image]http://img20.pixroute.com/i/0062Scleroderma cepa7/xunvpbxk1byl_t.jpg[/image]

2. are these Scleroderma laeve




habitat shot of little potato looking lumps:


now onto some type of bolete, there were a number of the same type:

Habitat:
grass/moss mix, poorly kept lawn, mixed hardwoods & conifers, non-coastal SW WA.

Gills:
(1) pores, brown to brownish-yellow at outer edge, seem to be attached.

Stem:
avg for mature specimens ~7.5 cm tall & 3-4cm wide @ base, tapering smaller upwards, fibrous and spongy off-white, fibers collecting a uniform speckling of dirt on the outside making it look darker.

Cap:
dark to light brown, smooth and every so slightly sticky to the touch, average width for mature ~ 9cm

Spore print color: (1) N/A yet (what color mediujm should I be using? - currently got a cap on foil.)

Bruising: slight brown or possibly reddish brown

Other information: barely any smell
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conjoined twins (please remember to automatically assume they're darker IRL):
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from the top:


one by itself:


underside of a slightly munched cap:


Are all these guys edible? Prep or Recipe suggestions? what does the bolete taste like when cooked?


Edited by happyfunguy (09/30/13 09:46 PM)


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: happyfunguy]
    #18913422 - 09/30/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry dude. Your off-site photo site is not easy to work with and the photos are pretty bad to begin with. Noone here would say any of those mushrooms are good to eat.

You need better pics and to upload them to the shroomery so they are easy to view.

Until then, don't eat any mushrooms!


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: happyfunguy]
    #18913768 - 09/30/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those first ones are some sort of polypore. With only a few exceptions, polypores tend to be too wood-like to eat. The main culinary use for most of the woody ones is drying them, powdering them, then making tea or a tincture.


Sclerodermas should all be considered poisonous, and those photos do resemble Sceroderma.


As far as boletes, there are some rather simple rules you can follow to find edible species. All poisonous boletes in North America have red or orange tubes or tube mouths, bruise blue, or both. If your bolete has neither of those features, then it isn't poisonous (if it's from North America). There are some that are still inedible, usually because they're really bitter. If they are in the nonpoisonous category, try taking a small piece, putting it in your mouth, and chewing on it for several seconds then spitting it out. If the flavor is something you can live with, then they're ok to eat.

To test for the blue bruising on a bolete, scratch the tube surface (a fingernail works well). Some will change color in a couple seconds or less, some might take up to several minutes, and a negative reaction would be no color change or only a stronger version of the same color as the tubes where scratched. Remember that yellow tubes will change to green instead of blue, so that would count as blue bruising.


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #18913778 - 09/30/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am guessing number one is Hydnellum aurantiacum.


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18913841 - 09/30/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the info... just starting to look into non-active edibles.

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Those first ones are some sort of polypore. With only a few exceptions, polypores tend to be too wood-like to eat. The main culinary use for most of the woody ones is drying them, powdering them, then making tea or a tincture.




it's actually pretty spongy and soft.


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: happyfunguy]
    #18914066 - 10/01/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Unless the polypores are a Laetiporus, they probably aren't anything to eat. They tend to be fairly bright orange in color, and your photo looks brown on my monitor. Here are links to pages showing the main two species on the west coast.

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Laetiporus_gilbertsonii.html
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Laetiporus_conifericola.html


Of course, as with all potential edible mushrooms, if there's any doubt, don't eat them.


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Re: edible? ID's please? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #18914205 - 10/01/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ToxicMan said:
Unless the polypores are a Laetiporus, they probably aren't anything to eat. They tend to be fairly bright orange in color, and your photo looks brown on my monitor. Here are links to pages showing the main two species on the west coast.

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Laetiporus_gilbertsonii.html
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Laetiporus_conifericola.html


Of course, as with all potential edible mushrooms, if there's any doubt, don't eat them.




I really appreciate the help, and wouldn't dream of eating anything without being 100% positive about its safety. Learned that the hard way back in 2000 following the advice of an amateur. I'm lucky I'm still alive and don't take that for granted. I'll go through keys and post back what it is when I can if I'm positive. I'm gonna let it grow a bit to see if it toughens up and darkens too.


Edited by happyfunguy (10/01/13 01:35 AM)


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