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nuentoter
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Microwave sterilization bags??? experience???
#18913384 - 09/30/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Microwave sterilization bags Anyone have any experience with these? Pc is dead and awaiting finding another one because I'm too cheap to buy new ones lol.
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cronicr



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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: nuentoter]
#18913440 - 09/30/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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im just gonna say no.........i just don't like microwaves in this hobby
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nuentoter
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: cronicr]
#18913458 - 09/30/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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neither do I but this seems like a legit product, and a possible alternate.
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The geometry of us is no chance. We are antennae, we are tuning forks, we are receiver and transmitters of all energy. We are more than we know. - @entheolove "I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for" - Georgia O'Keefe I think the word is vagina
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maddchef
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: nuentoter]
#18913518 - 09/30/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're going to go this route you might as well use ziplocs. (not recommending this btw)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: maddchef]
#18914702 - 10/01/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ziplocks will melt.
Microwaves are not suitable. The material in the bag will heat unevenly. Some will be sterilized and other areas won't even be to pasteurization temperature. If you heat it all to at least pasteurization temp, some will be ruined due to overheating.
Use steam. RR
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nuentoter
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#18915153 - 10/01/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ty RR, was curious what some other more experienced ppl thought bout this product, I had never seen em before.
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The geometry of us is no chance. We are antennae, we are tuning forks, we are receiver and transmitters of all energy. We are more than we know. - @entheolove "I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for" - Georgia O'Keefe I think the word is vagina
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isic
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: nuentoter]
#18915274 - 10/01/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have only attempted to grow once before as a teenager back in the mid 90's and I struggled with sterilization because I did not have access to a PC(or RR's awesome videos). So with no PC, a microwave was my next best thing (yeah... my 17yo mind at it's best). Well, I had a few syringes and set out to experiment.
I tried many things to microwave the verm/brf mix in, but found that Tupperware was the best in my experiments. They can handle a lot of heat and they seal pretty good with some micropore tape, but like RR said, the microwave does not heat things evenly so I found out that the smaller the better. The ONLY Tupperware containers I had success sterilizing and colonizing healthy uncontaminated myc in, were tiny. Like the size of a golf ball tiny. These were too small to fruit (I assume because I could never got them to) so I would use these tiny chunks of myc and try to inoculate a larger Tupperware verm/brf mix that was sterilized using the microwave as well, but they ALWAYS ended up contaminated. 3 syringes + microwave = 0 fruitbodies!
So from my past experience, the microwave is only suitable to sterilize very small cakes, which can't be fruited (to my knowledge) and are not good for inoculating anything else, so they become worthless. Anything larger than these novelty golf ball sized Tupperware containers will be too big to allow the microwave to sterilize the mix completely and evenly. This is why your burrito is still cold in the middle after 2 mins on high, lol!
I left the microwave tek in the 90's, I suggest you do the same
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Re: Microwave sterilization bags??? experience??? [Re: isic]
#18916833 - 10/01/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are for sterilizing the surfaces of baby bottles. Read the instructions, you add 60ml of water to the bag and microwave it. So it just steams things.
Microwaves can be used to sterilize grain you know what you are at, I have done it before several times. You have to take into account all the problems and overcome them, e.g. add back any lost moisture, overcome hot spots & cold spots. A pressure cooker is far easier & safer.
If you find any microwave grows most have failed, and I can pinpoint exactly where, and what they could have done to overcome the problem. Most refuse to follow simple instructions & common sense though.
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