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A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing...
    #18913322 - 09/30/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fruited them in a sgfc with around 85%-90% humidity (next batch I will add more perlite to help increase humidity. I have 1/8th inch holes about every inch of all 6 sides (a ton of holes). Mist them 3ish times daily. Keep a light above them 6-10 hours a day in my closet. The sgfc is elevated around 4"-6" off the ground. Just wondering why there wasn't a whole lot of pins on this cake, and why they are taking so long to grow. It has been around 11 days since the first pins came in. They're are three mushrooms in the cluster on the left, the third being smaller than the others. This is my first grow. Thanks for the help!


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Ecoli]
    #18913467 - 09/30/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

do you have that cake in some sort of climate control?


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18913570 - 09/30/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Primordia Formation Relative Humidity: 95-100% Air Temperature: 65 - 75°F Duration: 6-10 days CO2: less than 5000 ppm Fresh Air Exchanges: 1 -3 per hour. (For home cultivation, fanning a fruiting chamber 3 times a day is adequate) Light: Any low heat indoor light, 30watt or less. Blue spectrums (or any daylight spectrum) preffered but not required. 12-24 hrs in duration is recommended.


Cropping Relative Humidity: 85-92% (For cakes 95-100% ) Air Temperature: 74-78°F CO2:less than 5000 ppm Fresh Air Exchanges: 1 -3 per hour. (For home cultivation, fanning a fruiting chamber 5 times per day is adequate) Harvest Stage: When the cap becomes convex and soon after the partial veil ruptures. Light: Continue light regimen as specified above.

If you are using a digital rH guage it is probably not functioning right, as they rarely do in such HIGH rH environments, the sensors get saturated.  Spot checking is ok, but I find they poop out fast if you leave the sensor inside the FC too aweful long.


Maybe tape some holes up , and/or add a bit more perlite: your rH is a little low :shrug:


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #18913630 - 09/30/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Everything is on point except the humidity and maybe a little more light... I just have some cheap $5 gauge from a pet store, nothing fancy. But it does say only a little over 80 right now. I have a total of 11 cakes in now, only one of which has started. Do you think adding perlite in the corners around all the cakes so they all still receive light would suffice for this flush? or do you suggest just covering up some of the holes and losing some fae? I probably only have around 1.5 inches of perlite from base up in my 105qt tub.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Ecoli]
    #18913647 - 09/30/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Everything is on point except the humidity and maybe a little more light... I just have some cheap $5 gauge from a pet store, nothing fancy. But it does say only a little over 80 right now. I have a total of 11 cakes in now, only one of which has started. Do you think adding perlite in the corners around all the cakes so they all still receive light would suffice for this flush? or do you suggest just covering up some of the holes and losing some fae? I probably only have around 1.5 inches of perlite from base up in my 105qt tub.




Oof, thats not near enough perlite for that sized tub :smile: I have a 105 qt tub..those are BIG! Especially for only 11 cakes....smaller FC?  Holy crap thats near enough perlite to sustain any kind of rH, especially in a sgfc.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #18913657 - 09/30/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Haha Yeah.. I plan on doing pf blocks next so I got a big ol' tub. I will probably go out and buy a few more bags of perlite tomorrow. Do you think my cakes will be fine if they sit in my open room for say 30 minutes?


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    #18913886 - 09/30/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: WC3TFT.Shrooms]
    #18913915 - 09/30/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wouldn't 1/8" every inch equal out to have the same airflow? The light is elevated about 2 1/2 to 3 feet above the tub. I do have very fine perlite. Next time I will be sure to get some course grade if I can find some. And this vermaculite is the finest I could find.. I will look online for vermaculite next time.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Ecoli]
    #18914685 - 10/01/13 05:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yiu need.about 5-6 inches of perlite in there. I keep my light about 6 inches above my chamber. And i dont belive the holes will work right, tho i see your thinking, plus thats a ton more holes than what you needed to drill. Make sure you mist then fan, i find 4+ times a day to be right.for the 105 qt tubs. And at least 12/12 for your light cycle. good vibes.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Ecoli]
    #18914719 - 10/01/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have 1/8th inch holes about every inch of all 6 sides (a ton of holes). Mist them 3ish times daily. Keep a light above them 6-10 hours a day in my closet.




Next time, follow the tek.

1/8" holes are only 25% as large as 1/4" holes.  Fresh air exchange is the number one pinning trigger, and you're only getting a fraction of the fresh air you need, thus the poor pinning performance.

The light should be on 12 hours per day and it should be within a few inches of the terrarium.

Cheap hygrometers are useless.  Read the fruits.  Yours show no signs of low humidity.

Closets are horrible places to grow because there's not enough air circulation.

Taping holes on a properly made shotgun terrarium reduces humidity, as does using the wrong size holes.  It's the airflow through the bottom holes which absorbs moisture from the perlite.  Adding more perlite won't help if you didn't build the terrarium right.

Make a new terrarium following the shotgun terrarium tek and you'll be fine.  Be sure to read about lighting at the bottom of that page too.
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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18920407 - 10/02/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome! Thank you! Does perlite size matter as well at all? I can never seem to find coarse perlite. I am begining on a new terrarium today and hopefully will be able to transfer all of the cakes by tomorrow.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: Ecoli]
    #18920438 - 10/02/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I do things just a bit differently to get an extra edge in the humidification war.  First, I spray the cake until it glistens.  Then I fan the cake(s) to get some evaporation going.  I then take the cakes out of the SGFC and mist the hell out of the fruiting chamber - sides and perlite.  THEN I put the cakes back into this high humidity environment and immediately put on the lid. 

Seems to work well.  They keep pinning and the pins all develop into shrooms.  I have very little (if any) aborts this way.


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Re: A week and 4 days from pins... Still small but growing... [Re: mpd]
    #18923957 - 10/02/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome! Maybe I will have to give that a run my second flush!


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