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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18914261 - 10/01/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:
once the water has become steam it can absorb more heat from its environment


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Chowder963]
    #18914272 - 10/01/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Chowder963 said:
Lol a diploma doesnt prove you were in honors, tons of people have diplomas and are idiots. I have one and it was easy.

^^ to the person above me, yes of course steam is hotter than boiling water. Water can only be so hot.. If it becomes too hot it becomes steam..




sorry mush4brains:awepreciation:

and dont be mad im not a 3rd grader. i dont talk up myself, sorry i cant go to my high school and get my transcript right now


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914274 - 10/01/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is actually an enthalpy of phase change. Once the boiling water has absorbed enough entropic energy to free itself of the liquid state, it becomes a gas. Once the intramolecular bonds of water have been totally severed, such high entropy is no longer necessary to maintain it in that state and thus it is totally possible for steam to be colder than water.

I've taken general chemistry! :flowstone:


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18914278 - 10/01/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:glittershitz:

:smilingpuppy:


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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914285 - 10/01/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
:facepalm:
once the water has become steam it can absorb more heat from its environment




So steam isn't hotter than boiling water until you superheat it :facepalm:, which is something that was never brought into the discussion.  Whether or not steam can be superheated was never the argument, steam is not inherently hotter than boiling water.


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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18914291 - 10/01/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
There is actually an enthalpy of phase change. Once the boiling water has absorbed enough entropic energy to free itself of the liquid state, it becomes a gas. Once the intramolecular bonds of water have been totally severed, such high entropy is no longer necessary to maintain it in that state and thus it is totally possible for steam to be colder than water.

I've taken general chemistry! :flowstone:



and yet it is often hotter, also
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Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
:facepalm:
once the water has become steam it can absorb more heat from its environment




So steam isn't hotter than boiling water until you superheat it :facepalm:, which is something that was never brought into the discussion.  Whether or not steam can be superheated was never the argument, steam is not inherently hotter than boiling water.



and the heat from the pot bottom and the light pressure from the water around it make it hotter


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil] * 3
    #18914298 - 10/01/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:jacked:


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InvisibleNWlight
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #18914299 - 10/01/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

good lord.

If water and steam are in an isolated system then the temperature of steam will exceed the temperature of the water.

IN EVERY CASE.


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nicechrisman said:
:jacked:



:smirk:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914302 - 10/01/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:like:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914307 - 10/01/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is full of politics and hot air steam


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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914311 - 10/01/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
good lord.

If water and steam are in an isolated system then the temperature of steam will exceed the temperature of the water.

IN EVERY CASE.





Steam will have more energy, but will be the same exact temperature.


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InvisibleNWlight
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914317 - 10/01/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
good lord.

If water and steam are in an isolated system then the temperature of steam will exceed the temperature of the water.

IN EVERY CASE.





Steam will have more energy, but will be the same exact temperature.




In case it still isn't clear, Temperature is a measure of the AVERAGE kinetic energy of of the water molecules involved.


Kinetic energy is approximately equal to 0.5(mass)(velocity)^2


Steam molecules are travelling MUCH faster than liquid water molecules, primarily due to the lack of hydrogen bonding and dipole-dipole attractive forces between the water molecules

:blewmeanie:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914327 - 10/01/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
This thread is full of politics and hot air steam





LOL

and

Quote:

NWlight said:
good lord.

If water and steam are in an isolated system then the temperature of steam will exceed the temperature of the water.

IN EVERY CASE.


Quote:

nicechrisman said:
:jacked:



:smirk:




i thread jacked it myself if you read it.

me n mush4brains have had this debate for a while. it made me want to debate it with him. cuz i know im right.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914333 - 10/01/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001] * 1
    #18914332 - 10/01/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

can steam get hotter then water thread.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18914316

thread jacked my own thread lol.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18914336 - 10/01/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LOL


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18914340 - 10/01/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is it weird that this thread makes me want to jack off.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Chowder963]
    #18914349 - 10/01/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914358 - 10/01/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
In case it still isn't clear, Temperature is a measure of the AVERAGE kinetic energy of of the water molecules involved.

Kinetic energy is approximately equal to 0.5(mass)(velocity)^2

Steam molecules are travelling MUCH faster than liquid water molecules, primarily due to the lack of hydrogen bonding and dipole-dipole attractive forces between the water molecules

:blewmeanie:




So you're saying that ice, water, and steam that can exist at the triple point of water are all going to be different temperatures too?  :lolsy:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18914363 - 10/01/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How would you feel if I was completely making shit up :rofl:

it sounded right, didn't it? big words and all?


The argument that water and steam are different temperatures comes from the misunderstanding of latent heat.

you win, Mush4brains :grin:

OP loses :thumbdown:



for anyone still confused, check out this graph. 

Phase changes of matter happen during the plateaus, where temperature is constant.



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