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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001] * 1
    #18914044 - 10/01/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How old are you?


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Shroomism]
    #18914061 - 10/01/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Look, if you make 10k a year, you can either take the dirt cheap $180 a yr/plan or pay the $100 fine. If you've got 100 bucks, you've got 200. If you really really can't afford it, there are subsides. If you're fucking broke, you can get on medicaid like you would anyway.
I'm normally the one in here talking about the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer. But bottom line, when this bill goes into effect, the 48 Million people who are uninsured in this country become insured. These problems don't fix themselves. Those companies don't extend coverage out of the good of their hearts, the rich don't give money to the poor because they just feel like it, we have to make them do it.

As far as I can tell, if you already have insurance, pretty much nothing will change.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001]
    #18914063 - 10/01/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The ACA is not a magical goodies creator. Certain people are going to take a financial hit, that much is for certain. The hope is that more people (especially young or in poverty) will become enfranchised in the health care system before potentially developing serious chronic illnesses that could have been prevented or mitigated with treatment and easing the burden on the system of emergency care. In the short term, many people will be confused by the individual mandate; that's why high-ranking dems are putting so much effort into publicizing the kind of premiums low earners can get under the new rules. High earners who aren't venture capitalists, politicians or professors will have to deal with more stringent policies regarding coverage for their employees, while health care will become much cheaper for low earners; but ideally, in the long run, everybody will benefit from the larger economic impact of the bill as reduced demand for high-end and emergency medical services will drive down their price. Ideally.

At least, that's the impression I get of the whole scheme. I'm no economist. All I know is that something needs to be done about the price of health services, so I'm kind of in favor of the ACA by default. Name one thing Ted Cruz has done to ease the gross burden of health coverage prices for the people who need it most. :shrug:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18914067 - 10/01/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18914084 - 10/01/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Steam is hotter than water


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18914104 - 10/01/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think the economic effects could be very far reaching and beneficial.
What if the entire housing crisis (economic collapse) was caused be people defaulting on their loans because they couldn't pay for hospital bills and would have been averted if they had had insurance...


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18914111 - 10/01/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He spells heart "hart" and spells does "dose" but says he was in honors which is a lie.

He says "You think I was in honors English because I could spell?"

Yeah im sure he aced all of his classes spelling at a 3rd grade level :lol:

Hes obviously an underage mentally challenged kid.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #18914113 - 10/01/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Steam is hotter than water



if they are both within the same system with identical pressure then yes :sun:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914117 - 10/01/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
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Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam if hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Steam is hotter than water




:laugh2:

thank you for finally shutting that dude up.

should we make a thread of is steam hotter then water mush4brains?


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #18914119 - 10/01/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've felt liquid water hotter than clouds. Therefore, I hereby declare evileye001's intellectual credibility NULL AND VOID! :courtjudge:


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #18914126 - 10/01/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Clouds are not so much steam as they are millions of water droplets or water crystals :wink:


Edited by NotTheDevil (10/01/13 12:49 AM)


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001]
    #18914188 - 10/01/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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go for it i dare you. one reason at a time.

on a side note this country is no longer a democracy. when did the people loose the power?

so why is obamacare a good idea?

:nocomment:




Name all your reasons why obamacare is a bad idea.

Go for it i dare you. One reason at a time.

On a side note this burger topped with sriracha sauce is no longer spicy. When did this sauce lose its heat?

So why is obamacare a bad idea?

:awkwardglance:




more mocking!!!

it would take a few hours but i could do that for you if u wanted.


that wasn't mocking. this is mocking.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Chowder963]
    #18914226 - 10/01/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Chowder963 said:
He spells heart "hart" and spells does "dose" but says he was in honors which is a lie.

He says "You think I was in honors English because I could spell?"

Yeah im sure he aced all of his classes spelling at a 3rd grade level :lol:

Hes obviously an underage mentally challenged kid.





im not usualy mean but up yours.

dont be a ass


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NWlight]
    #18914227 - 10/01/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Steam is hotter than water




Quote:

NWlight said:
Quote:

NotTheDevil said:
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Mush4Brains said:
Evileye LOVES trying to prove people wrong.

He tried to argue that steam is hotter than water, so I'm not sure I would trust his opinion on why "Obamacare" is such a terrible law.



Steam is hotter than water



if they are both within the same system with identical pressure then yes :sun:





Sorry, I meant he tried saying steam is hotter than boiling water.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18914235 - 10/01/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It can be, in fact the boiling is bubbles of water vapor that have formed on a nucleation point because the water has become hotter than water can become


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001]
    #18914242 - 10/01/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol a diploma doesnt prove you were in honors, tons of people have diplomas and are idiots. I have one and it was easy.

^^ to the person above me, yes of course steam is hotter than boiling water. Water can only be so hot.. If it becomes too hot it becomes steam..


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18914244 - 10/01/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

FUCK obama and his stupid ass obamacare.  all their doing is forcing us to waste our money.  watch, one day the government will attack us and millions will have to pay for their attacks.

sure, healthcare is good to have but its the fucking fact that i have to be forced to pay for this shit. where the fuck is our freedom going?! 

maybe it is a good thing.. maybe they think itll get people working again..

then why not just legalize marijuana and create billions of jobs :facepalm:

fuck this government man, I can't wait until it collapses.  I hope this "government shutdown" shit is forever.  but it wont be because us citizens couldnt be that lucky.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18914246 - 10/01/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've felt liquid water hotter than clouds. Therefore, I hereby declare evileye001's intellectual credibility NULL AND VOID! :courtjudge:




Steam is hotter than boiling water because once the water reaches 212 degrees, it changes form. It becomes steam. If steam is pressurized and contained, such as in a teapot, so that it stays as steam, it can get to as hot as 700 degrees.

Steam. The reason for this is water boils at the temperature of 212 degrees F. Steam can be heated to much higher temperatures than that. Some engines that are water cooled has steam at temperatures of over 700 degrees. Water basically becomes a plasma at this temperature.

Steam is usually 100 degrees celsius. If you took chemistry, you will know that there is no temperature change during a phase change. However after the phase change has occurred the steam can keep increasing in temperature. that is why your hand will burn quicker and more severely in steam than in boiling water. This is because steam has more energy, and the def of temp is average Kinetic energy. there you have it, steam does have more temp than boiling water.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: evileye001]
    #18914252 - 10/01/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

explain why the Obamacare system is a bad thing, outline the details you wanna make clear, so i can make a distinction of what the hell it is this threads about.


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Re: name one good reason why obamacare is good and i will tell you why ur wrong. know ur facts. (30 min) [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18914253 - 10/01/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It can be, in fact the boiling is bubbles of water vapor that have formed on a nucleation point because the water has become hotter than water can become




:facepalm3:

Steam is gas H2O that is 212*F at standard pressure
Boiling water is liquid H2O that is 212*F at standard pressure

Steam has more energy, it is not hotter.


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