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Offlinelucid
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Diff between Anxiety/Unpleasent Energy N Euphoria/Pleasent E
    #1891219 - 09/07/03 03:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I posted something like this in ODD a while ago, but got
no response. I figured some of u smart S&P pharmacologists
might know...
so is there a difference between unpleasent anxious/teeth
griding frustration and euphoric rush of pleasent energy ?
I mean is there a chemical diff in terms of
Adreneline, Epinephrine, Dopamine etc ? and what's the
diff between all these CNS stimulants in any case ?
links to studies would be much appreciated as well...


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Re: Diff between Anxiety/Unpleasent Energy N Euphoria/Pleasent E [Re: lucid]
    #1892813 - 09/08/03 02:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The brain is so vastly complex and our understanding so primitive,you will not get a satisfactory reductionist, scientific response.

And all the neurotransmitters have different functions depending on what brain areas they reside. A surge of dopamine,for example,can cause a euphoric rush or a dysphoric psychosis depeding on the state of the brain and the areas effected.


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Re: Diff between Anxiety/Unpleasent Energy N Euphoria/Pleasent E [Re: lucid]
    #1892990 - 09/08/03 04:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You wouldn't get endorphins with anxiety. I guess you might get some adrenalin + cortisol with both anxiety and a euphoric rush though.


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Re: Diff between Anxiety/Unpleasent Energy N Euphoria/Pleasent E [Re: enotake2]
    #1897084 - 09/09/03 04:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The thing about isolating single neurotransmitters and talking about them is that you're ignoring all the other ones.

You can have a huge beta-endorphin rush and still be dysphoric from other ligands.

Talking about neurotransmitters and peptides is really only useful for drug pharmacology and informational purposes.There will never be a complete theory of the mind/brain from just talking about chemicals.


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