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"tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid
    #18912062 - 09/30/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I recently got some lsd. reagent tested with two separate tests, glows under backlight, and has been confirmed as legitimate by several experienced people. i have taken it several times it all seems to check out. Now from the same piece of paper, my friend took 2 hits. On Saturday. Right now he is in the emergency room because he has been incoherent for the last 48 hours. He's several hundred miles away but i gathered that he can't sleep, he's mumbling to himself a lot and keep s saying he wants to go back to the "old him" and he is having trouble with reality. His mother left me a frantic message asking how she could get him to sleep and saying he's driving her insane just laying on the ground, falling down hitting shit. Covered in bruises and cuts now.When i mentioned hppd they said he had no visuals or anything like hppd symptoms.
I feel so bad, but i seriously can't imagine wtf happened. Does anyone have any thoughts on this I'm just baffled. He must have taken something else, right? Or a mental break?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912105 - 09/30/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Psychosis?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912112 - 09/30/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like it wasn't the acid that caused the problem
He taking other drugs?  Could he have over dosed while on acid?

2 hits of Acid can't stay in your system for 48 hrs
Would say its biologically not possible


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: HarryL]
    #18912146 - 09/30/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is true, but the question is, could he be extra sensitive to change in brain chemistry?

No matter if it was LSD or other psychedelic substance, they all influence various neuron receptors in the brain. He might be one of the individuals that cannot handle this type of the influence.

OP, is it first time he is on psychedelics?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: HarryL]
    #18912161 - 09/30/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Right....
So is there anything that comes to mind as a likely culprit that is a drug. I'm like baffled


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912175 - 09/30/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Blind fool, no he used acid only a few months ago with his brother i know that. I don't think that was his first time either


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912219 - 09/30/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When he gets in to see the doctors they could give him many different things to make him sleep, unless he is a super super odd case, they can make him sleep. Sounds like either he "snapped" and has mental problems or that another drug caused this. Either way I bet sleep would help since when you sleep your brain can get back to its normal state easier. If for some reason the doctors will not give him anything to sleep she should try to find some seratonin/dopamine antagonists, some benzodiazepines, or something like ghb.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912233 - 09/30/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure what brain receptors have to do with this really... LSD doesn't permanently change your brain or receptors...  And 2 hits isn't going to stay for 48 hrs... Maybe 12 hrs max but last 3-4 would be low level effects... No one is that sensitive...

Well... Number of drugs come to mind as possibilities
Does he take herione or other opiates?  Methadone?
What about any RC?

I don't believe 2 hits of LSD would do that to someone
Even if they were mentally unstable ... Is he mentally unstable?

Basically, would ask 'what else did you take' ... And I think you will solve the mystery

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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: HarryL]
    #18912265 - 09/30/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I tripped for 36 hours at a phish concert once. I believe the cause was lack of sleep. I didn't have a place to sleep so I stayed up. I had minor visuals the next day. I believe I was sprayed with acid at the concert the next day. still I felt like I tripped 36 hrs on one tab.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: HarryL]
    #18912280 - 09/30/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You do not think that LSD is capable to impair brain chemistry in certain individuals? LSD has one of the richest varieties of neuron receptor activity.  Never said that this is a common reaction, but that do not rule out that it cannot happen to some individuals.

Just to clarify, these more sensitive individuals would of course have similar reaction to other substances as well, not specifically only to LSD.


The 2C-G-5 is according to Shulgin active 32h-48h, however the dosage is between 10-16mg, and therefor probably hard to put on blotter. http://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?domain=pk&id=30


EDIT: Of course, there might be other contributing factors, such as sleep deprivation as stated above. Set and setting can play a role as well.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Labs4858]
    #18912307 - 09/30/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DOx compounds have long lasting effects, 24+ hours. I have read reports where people had effects for 36 hours, maybe longer. I think the dosage for DOx compounds is pretty low, ~5mg maybe less, so it is possible it was mistaken/sold as LSD.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: enthiangenic]
    #18912347 - 09/30/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just don't see why he would take blotter from someone when he had a legit product in his hands. whole family has a mild opiate problem it wouldn't surprise me at all if he took some
Maybe dox in pill form? Did he like od on opiates maybe?
I guess ill find out what the doctors are saying... I'm pretty scared


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Blind fool]
    #18912401 - 09/30/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Psychosis?




Yes, that's what I'm thinking too. If the product has been vetted by other users on multiple occasions like the OP states, then this is most likely.

This can be triggered by a variety of different reasons, but the most likely would be sleep deprivation or underlying mental illness.


A very important piece of information was left out...had the subject in question been on any other medication, drugs, weird foods etc?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912417 - 09/30/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Let say it was something else, it is still difficult to speculate about what substance it can be when there is not enough information about his health/drug use history? Also information regarding his state of being prior to the ingestion can be of interest.


Of topic but good demonstration of how complex the brain chemistry can be:
I personally know two individuals that got diagnosed with focal epilepsy in their late 20’s after sudden collapse followed by periodic seizure attacks. None of them have prior drug use, health issues or epilepsy in family history. What they both had common is that they prior to the first episode pushed themselves too much at work and in their private life while lacking of enough of sleep. This happened numerous years back, but both individuals have to medicate with Lamotrigine to function properly.
I personally do live a very similar life style, but so far I am fine. A good example of how balance of brain chemistry differs between individuals even when no drugs are involved.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: enthiangenic]
    #18912451 - 09/30/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: HarryL]
    #18912520 - 09/30/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Harry,
I think you misunderstand me. I am not saying or claiming that LSD damaged his brain. What I mean is that his mental state was probably already fragile and the use of LSD pushed him over (other substances would give same result).

Like the example of my two friends, they ware unfortunate enough to push themselves little bit too much under not very optimal conditions with lifelong consequence. This of course does not mean that this guy will have lifelong consequence.

However, if his mind is weaker and he has some sort of predetermined condition that does not tolerate external influence of the brain chemistry, it is likely to happen again. Regardless if it is LSD or other substance.
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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Blind fool]
    #18912624 - 09/30/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

text: "I'm trying to get him admitted in the psych ward. He had an episode a little bit ago, ripped out his Iv and tried to leave and go find his motorcycle that he never had"
Psych wards are scary :x


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912684 - 09/30/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sound like a psychosis to me, and that can be induced by LSD. Is it common reaction? Of course not and there might be other factors involved as well such as lack of sleep, larger amount of stress, poor diet, etc. But it still does not rule out the possibility that it was his “100% real” LSD he already had in his possession.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18912886 - 09/30/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

OrgasmicBanana said:
text: "I'm trying to get him admitted in the psych ward. He had an episode a little bit ago, ripped out his Iv and tried to leave and go find his motorcycle that he never had"
Psych wards are scary :x




Yeah that's kind of a shame - too bad someone didn't have some benzos to encourage sleep, it may have given him a chance to recover to baseline.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Yippie]
    #18912911 - 09/30/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am surprised they haven't given him benzos or put him to sleep. Keep us updated on this.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18912988 - 09/30/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Numerous individuals here described their experience from hospital visits while on various substances. If I remember correctly, doctors do not give anything to the individual, when the substance in the system is not 100% identified. A sort of playing it safe by not introducing medication that could have an adverse effect with the unidentified substance.

OP, do you know if he flipped directly, or did he had a good time for 8h and then on the way down started to act like this?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Blind fool]
    #18913172 - 09/30/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know! His mom called me at ten am asking me how to get him to sleep. She also said today they're testing him for other substances since LSD would have metabolized by now. obviously the doctors think it might be something else. Shame cuz i have some xanax.

Guys, i feel like a bad person. I thought i was helping people. maybe the test is flawed or something. I'm going to have to ask him about the onset and experience but I'm not sure when that's gonna happen at this point. Anything could have happened but it seems so unlikely that he would take a different drug or that the same sheet was contaminated. I don't want to think that acid did this, honestly.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18913226 - 09/30/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I felt like I was dying for months and months after I ate a bunch of Acid, over a decade ago... Everyone else that took it was fine a day later, I just felt physically off for the better part of felt like 8 months or so. Thought i'd be like that forever, super depressing experience..


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18913230 - 09/30/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is good that they try to find out what exactly he has in his system. I am sure we all are interested in this information.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18913253 - 09/30/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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I felt like I was dying for months and months after I ate a bunch of Acid, over a decade ago... Everyone else that took it was fine a day later, I just felt physically off for the better part of felt like 8 months or so. Thought i'd be like that forever, super depressing experience..




Good posting, here we have an excellent example that some people can react differently where there also are some negative effects.

I do not really understand why some people can’t accept that LSD just as other psychoactive substances can in some individuals under certain conditions induce more negative affects then the positive ones. Even the article that Harry posted do not proof that everyone will not be affected negatively.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Blind fool]
    #18913263 - 09/30/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds scary whatever is going on there. 

Could be just an Acid freakout or something.

Was he tripping for the entire 48 hours?  Only thing i tried before that made me trip out for that long was "Bromo-Dragonfly" and that is not an experience i would like to repeat.

12 hour LSD trips test my patience sometimes as it is, but 48 hours!!!

I hope your friend gets better mate :smile:


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Blind fool]
    #18913266 - 09/30/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I had a really bad experience with ecstasy. Threw me into this crazy state of random hallucinations of my body and intense trippy panic attacks and depersonalization for like 8 months. i Realize it can happen...


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18913491 - 09/30/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it's terrible :sad:


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18914325 - 10/01/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so here is an little update...
He was at a sublime concert when he ate them.
He has slept about 5 hours since Saturday.
He is staying in the hospital overnight and waiting for the results of an MRI and bunch of drug tests. 
the stuff he was tripping on a few weeks ago was actually shrooms not acid, but afaik it doesn't matter too much..

The concert gives me an entirely different perspective on this. He is sleeping now, and I'm gonna try to talk to him tomorrow. He had in his possession 12 hits total, admitted to taking two, have a friend who took two, but there are only six to be found, so there is the possibility that he re-dosed for whatever reason. I don't know a lot of detailed chemical information, but I am under the impression that his tolerance would be so high at that point that 2 more hits wouldn't have a very strong effect.

There is also a bit of family history, a cousin of his on his dad's side apparently went to a concert and did some drugs and had to spend 2 weeks in a mental institution when she got back. Who knows what that is about.

And random specific detail, he spent a few minutes saturday night literally spitting at and on his mother and her friend.

possibility of a concussion from an injury sustained at the concert?

I still think there is a big chunk of missing information.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18914374 - 10/01/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Crazy story... Hope sanity returns to your friend. Keep us updated.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: psychodelia]
    #18914561 - 10/01/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Turtletotem]
    #18914570 - 10/01/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

these days some people are thinking they have lsd or sell lsd but what they have is rc.. maybe ur friend got some of his own and thought it was lsd but then..


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: rikuni]
    #18914586 - 10/01/13 04:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

mofo od'd on 25i


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Deathcore]
    #18914591 - 10/01/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: rikuni]
    #18941845 - 10/06/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, So i just wanted to post an update on this for anyone who was curious about what happened. He just got home from the psych ward and the doctors have him on some antipsychotics :frown:

Apparently, after he ate the acid, on the way to the concert he and his friends got pulled over. His friend freaked out and handed him a different blotter, and told him to eat it so they wouldn't get caught with it, so he did. I don't know why his friend wouldn't have just eaten it himself if he was so worried, seems kind of selfish. I'm convinced this must have been some kind of RC, I have no idea where his friend got it. I don't see any other explanation for his symptoms of not being able to talk or stand up. I know a lot of people can take 4+ hits of lsd and trip just fine.

I hope that he can taper off the antipsychotics as soon as possible. It could have just been a bad reaction to acid but i just don't think so.. since he has used psychedelics before and not too long ago. Thanks to everyone who answered.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18942294 - 10/06/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

some friend... he shoulda just tore it up or something, not ate an unknown substance... as for the 4+ hits, you can eat 30+ hits and be fine if you really wanted to...if its real L... anyway once he recovers atleast he'll most likely learn not to eat unknown substances and re-evaluate the people you associate yourself with.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: Deathcore]
    #18942306 - 10/06/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We all do silly things, just in are nature.  Friend needs time not with pills, but people love putting things on you.  Friend needs some time to recuperate.  Perhaps a good book, or some walks, or good friends to really bounce things off of would help more then something to numb the thought process.

Hope your friend does better.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: MeinDarkEye]
    #18942740 - 10/06/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i just dont think cops would have found one piece of blotter like.. just put it on the floor under the seat or in a pile of trash or in a cup there are a billion places in any car to put it. I would never be worried about getting caught with it, ya kno?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: OrgasmicBanana]
    #18942760 - 10/06/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is he still weird or back to reality?


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18942917 - 10/06/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've had good friends that i have dropped with many times before go into a psychosis-like state and thought loops repeating a list of things on one or two hits of appx. 100ug+ paper off the same page as everyone else.  What threw him into it was that one of his good friends died recently, which i didnt know about, and i guess it surfaced in his head.  He freaked out and sped off and i had to go meet his parents (for the first time) and give them multiple bars to give him which helped but didnt stop it completely.  It was close to the point of going to the hospital but luckily it didnt come to that.


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Re: "tripping" for 48 hours on 2 his of acid [Re: ilus]
    #18943934 - 10/07/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I guess he's still acting kinda weird but they released him.i think he's improved a lot


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