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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18911661 - 09/30/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not gong to argue a law that has already been passed.




And yet... you do.


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The fact is that the republicans have this one option left and they are willing to fuck the economy to continue a debate that ended last November.




Clearly the debate didn't end.

A shutdown would have as much effect on the economy as the sequester did.

"THE SKY IS FALLING!" Oh wait... it didn't.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18911676 - 09/30/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok hold on. Why is a government mandated healthcare plan so bad for the republicans?




Because they know that as the pieces of the law have gone into effect, they have been popular. Once people actually see what benefits they will get, they will like OBAMA's healthcare law. The republicans have wagered the entire past four years bashing this law and if people like it, what do the have left?




The Republican party really exhausted isn't it?




He is lying.  The law is vastly unpopular and increases in unpopularity as more and more people suffer from it.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18911680 - 09/30/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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koods said:
I'm not gong to argue a law that has already been passed.




And yet... you do.


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The fact is that the republicans have this one option left and they are willing to fuck the economy to continue a debate that ended last November.




Clearly the debate didn't end.

A shutdown would have as much effect on the economy as the sequester did.

"THE SKY IS FALLING!" Oh wait... it didn't.




There is no evidence that a government shutdown will fuck the economy but Harry Reid and Obama would be more responsible for it that the House Republicans.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18911686 - 09/30/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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The Republican party really exhausted isn't it?




He is lying.  The law is vastly unpopular and increases in unpopularity as more and more people suffer from it.




And the more they find out, the less the American people like it.

Including that usual supporter of all things liberal... the unions.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18911693 - 09/30/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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koods said:
I'm not gong to argue a law that has already been passed.




And yet... you do.


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The fact is that the republicans have this one option left and they are willing to fuck the economy to continue a debate that ended last November.




Clearly the debate didn't end.

A shutdown would have as much effect on the economy as the sequester did.

"THE SKY IS FALLING!" Oh wait... it didn't.




There is no evidence that a government shutdown will fuck the economy but Harry Reid and Obama would be more responsible for it that the House Republicans.




Which is why I said..."A shutdown would have as much effect on the economy as the sequester did."

Obama and Reid are both basically saying "if I can't get my way I'll take my ball and go home".


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18911696 - 09/30/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I know they received more votes. I also know (as do you I'm sure) that that has no bearing on anything.

Gerrymandering has been going on for decades. One has to merely look at the 4th District in Illinois to see that both sides do the same. Why do you continue to delude yourself that only the Republicans do it? Neither side should, both do.



The nationwide vote for President is a separate vote than the one for The House and the one for the Senate. The winner of 1 does not automatically get their way with the other two, or vice-versa.

You seem smart enough. Why pretend to be dumb when politics is involved?




I'm just suggesting to you that, regardless the allocated seats in the house (you can't gerrymander the senate), the democratic platform was more popular. You are the one that just suggested that we should run our government based on public opinion polls.

Is it appropriate to cut off funding for the entire government to kill a law that couldn't be killed in a proper legislative way.

Republicans should go ahead and do this. They won't win. They are too fucking stupid.
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Patlal said:
Ok hold on. Why is a government mandated healthcare plan so bad for the republicans?




Because they know that as the pieces of the law have gone into effect, they have been popular. Once people actually see what benefits they will get, they will like OBAMA's healthcare law. The republicans have wagered the entire past four years bashing this law and if people like it, what do the have left?




The Republican party really exhausted isn't it?




He is lying.  The law is vastly unpopular and increases in unpopularity as more and more people suffer from it.




Really? It hasn't gone into effect yet.

To ahead and believe that. You're basing your opinion on polls that show that Obamacare is 30 points less popular than the Affordable Care Act. Do you really trust people who don't know they are the same fucking thing?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18911698 - 09/30/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you don't like the law, you are welcome to elect new leaders in two years. Until then, shut the fuck up.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18911734 - 09/30/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm just suggesting to you that, regardless the allocated seats in the house (you can't gerrymander the senate), the democratic platform was more popular.




Still doesn't matter. Fortunately, that's not the way the system works.


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Is it appropriate to cut off funding for the entire government to kill a law that couldn't be killed in a proper legislative way.




Fuck yes. Both sides do it.


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Republicans should go ahead and do this. They won't win. They are too fucking stupid.




It would seem they are both about the same. One wants "A", one wants "B". Today. Maybe not tomorrow.

In the meanst, keep looking petty with dumbass comments like that.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18911767 - 09/30/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:


Really? It hasn't gone into effect yet.

To ahead and believe that. You're basing your opinion on polls that show that Obamacare is 30 points less popular than the Affordable Care Act. Do you really trust people who don't know they are the same fucking thing?




Some of it has gone into effect and there have been a lot of companies dropping coverage and cutting people's hours to under 30 to avoid it.  Why do you think 77% of all new hires are part time?  Companies aren't stupid.

The fact is that when you have to see what;s in a bill until you pass it there is going to be increasing dissatisfaction, especially given the press perfidy.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18911773 - 09/30/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you don't like the law, you are welcome to elect new leaders in two years. Until then, shut the fuck up.



We did that.  It is called the House of Representatives.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18911817 - 09/30/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18911846 - 09/30/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Instead of focusing on eliminating Obamacare, why don't the Republicans focus on modifying it to make it better? Wouldn't that be the best course of action?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18911852 - 09/30/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's not "Obamacare" it's the Affordable Healthcare Act. There were already SO many compromises made in the first place to get it passed that it really is pretty much a bipartisan bill. It's pretty stupid to call it "Obamacare" IMO. (Not meaning you are stupid)


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18911865 - 09/30/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

R vs D theater at its finest, why do some take this act so seriously?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #18911872 - 09/30/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
It's pretty stupid to call it "Obamacare" IMO. (Not meaning you are stupid)



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Patlal said:
Instead of focusing on eliminating Obamacare, why don't the Republicans focus on modifying it to make it better? Wouldn't that be the best course of action?




No. That would leave government involved.

A great many Americans want no government involvement. Government is how health care became so expensive to begin with.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18911877 - 09/30/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
It's pretty stupid to call it "Obamacare" IMO. (Not meaning you are stupid)




Even Obama has called it that.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18911879 - 09/30/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: qman]
    #18911883 - 09/30/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
R vs D theater at its finest, why do some take this act so seriously?




Republicans and Democrats, as you know, both do stupid shit.

Why some tools keep thinking only the other "side" sucks is a great mystery.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18911888 - 09/30/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Something we can agree on


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18911921 - 09/30/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:luvdemshrooms:  :luvdemshrooms: .


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