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rikuni

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#18911470 - 09/30/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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leon trout
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: rikuni]
#18911540 - 09/30/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i would, most def... i don't agree with pussy-footing around as far as first trips go... if yr gonna trip, fuckin' trip...
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: leon trout]
#18911548 - 09/30/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bombs away, matey! Argggh!
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: mpd]
#18911799 - 09/30/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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As long as it was an appropriate situation, set & setting were good...sure, why not? Just curious how you're measuring the doses.
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: MidnightCity]
#18912322 - 09/30/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Be somewhere fun and have fun!
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: rikuni]
#18913916 - 09/30/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rikuni said: Hi bros, would you give someone whos never done acid a dose of about 230mic? 
I think me would
I dont know about you guys, but a 230mic trip of pure, real LSD is quite strong. I think a lot of people overestimate tabs as 100mics just cause thats what most dealers say, and it ends up being like 60-75mics/tab.
230mics of L IME is sometimes too overwhelming. I would definitely not advise it to a first time tripper. Start with 100mics and see how it does. Everyone is wired to react differently to drugs (i.e., different tolerance levels, etc)
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: rikuni]
#18915301 - 10/01/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm obviously super-new here, and maybe I just need to get on board with this ... but these threads that ask for dosage suggestions for friends of strangers just don't make any sense to me. 
1. Are you sure that what you have is legit LSD? If so...
2. Are you sure that "about 230mic" is *really* 230 mcg? If so...
3. Are these guys actually solid ... or could they go squirrelly on you? I think we'd need to know more about their experience. If it's primarily or exclusively with "happy psychs" that rarely if ever go south, then experience might not count for much.
In the end, I would say this: if you give it to them with encouragement, then you become at least somewhat responsible for the outcome. I'm not saying that you become responsible for ensuring a positive experience -- more like responsible for basic safety, etc. By my reckoning, 230 mcg is not little league territory. Nor is it major league. More like the minors. But, you've got to be pretty damned good to play in the minors, right? Just think it through -- the reasons for and against.
And listen, I don't mean to be a downer, here. I'm just old ... LOL! It used to be that LSD in the hundreds of micrograms meant something. Maybe it doesn't anymore, and maybe I need to get on board with that, too.
Be good to yourselves...
Edited by Gratuitous Grace (10/01/13 09:48 AM)
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Just let LSD happen. It takes so long to kick in, you'll probably forget that you took it then find yourself slowly slipping into a little trip. You might get a headache and elevated body temperature lasting the entire trip; but don't worry, that's how you "know it's working." Lol.
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: Q-T]
#18915663 - 10/01/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Q-T said: Just let LSD happen. It takes so long to kick in, you'll probably forget that you took it then find yourself slowly slipping into a little trip.
LSD doesn't take long at all to kick in, 30-60 minutes is standard...Also I've personally never "forgotten" that I dosed, even after many, many times.
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: MidnightCity]
#18915684 - 10/01/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MidnightCity said: LSD doesn't take long at all to kick in, 30-60 minutes is standard...Also I've personally never "forgotten" that I dosed, even after many, many times.
From all my experiences with LSD, noticeable desired effect begin around 2-3 hours after ingestion. Peripheral effects come within 90-120 minutes after ingestion, but that's not what I'm looking for in any drug.
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Gratuitous Grace said: I'm obviously super-new here, and maybe I just need to get on board with this ... but these threads that ask for dosage suggestions for friends of strangers just don't make any sense to me. 
1. Are you sure that what you have is legit LSD? If so...
2. Are you sure that "about 230mic" is *really* 230 mcg? If so...
3. Are these guys actually solid ... or could they go squirrelly on you? I think we'd need to know more about their experience. If it's primarily or exclusively with "happy psychs" that rarely if ever go south, then experience might not count for much.
In the end, I would say this: if you give it to them with encouragement, then you become at least somewhat responsible for the outcome. I'm not saying that you become responsible for ensuring a positive experience -- more like responsible for basic safety, etc. By my reckoning, 230 mcg is not little league territory. Nor is it major league. More like the minors. But, you've got to be pretty damned good to play in the minors, right? Just think it through -- the reasons for and against.
And listen, I don't mean to be a downer, here. I'm just old ... LOL! It used to be that LSD in the hundreds of micrograms meant something. Maybe it doesn't anymore, and maybe I need to get on board with that, too.
Be good to yourselves...
I like this response. Especially the part about being somewhat responsible about the people who you dose.
However much your dealer told you was on each hit is almost definitely wrong. How many hits are you planning on giving them? If your dealer said that one hit is 230ug then that is highly unlikely. 100ug is a solid trip and 200 is a pretty damn strong trip. 300 is ego death territory.
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: Q-T]
#18915759 - 10/01/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It depends. I swallowed two tabs of LSd my first time and it took an hour before I noticed effects. Seconds time I dropped two tabs but kept them under my tongue for 20 minutes before swallowing... Hit me in 25 minutes and I was tripping hard one hour in.
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: theRAPeutic]
#18915796 - 10/01/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahp93 said: It depends. I swallowed two tabs of LSd my first time and it took an hour before I noticed effects. Seconds time I dropped two tabs but kept them under my tongue for 20 minutes before swallowing... Hit me in 25 minutes and I was tripping hard one hour in.
Exactly, this sounds reasonable. I've never heard of anybody taking actual LSD that takes 2-3 hours to kick in. Even 90 minutes is a stretch
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: Q-T]
#18915808 - 10/01/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahp93 said: Seconds time I dropped two tabs but kept them under my tongue for 20 minutes before swallowing... Hit me in 25 minutes and I was tripping hard one hour in.
that sounds like textbook nbome behavior... you sure it was LSD?.. 25 minutes is quick for L, real damn quick...
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Q-T said: From all my experiences with LSD, noticeable desired effect begin around 2-3 hours after ingestion. Peripheral effects come within 90-120 minutes after ingestion, but that's not what I'm looking for in any drug.
i usually get lift-off within 60-90 minutes, but other than that this is pretty much spot on...
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: leon trout]
#18915836 - 10/01/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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leon trout said:
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tahp93 said: Seconds time I dropped two tabs but kept them under my tongue for 20 minutes before swallowing... Hit me in 25 minutes and I was tripping hard one hour in.
that sounds like textbook nbome behavior... you sure it was LSD?.. 25 minutes is quick for L, real damn quick...
Around 25 minutes seems normal to me for it to start working. I just looked at Erowid to double check my timetables and it lines up. But I've only dropped acid 100+ times over two decades so I may not know what I'm talking about
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: MidnightCity]
#18916026 - 10/01/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MidnightCity said: I've only dropped acid 100+ times over two decades so I may not know what I'm talking about 
so, this is turning into a dick-measuring contest?.. rather unbecoming... i did my first dose around 1985, so i've seen the block from all corners myself...
you yourself said
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LSD doesn't take long at all to kick in, 30-60 minutes is standard...
tahp93 referred to "tripping hard" at one hour in... in my experience, LSD is just kicking in at 60 minutes... "just kicking in" & "tripping hard" are 2 complete different mindstates... if homeboy was "tripping hard" at 60 minutes, on 2 blotters, my bet is on nbome... i'd love to hear from tahp93 if it was bitter or not?..
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MidnightCity
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: leon trout]
#18916113 - 10/01/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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leon trout said:
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MidnightCity said: I've only dropped acid 100+ times over two decades so I may not know what I'm talking about 
so, this is turning into a dick-measuring contest?.. rather unbecoming... i did my first dose around 1985, so i've seen the block from all corners myself...
Nope, just relaying my experience. I guess it is now though 
Lighten up
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: MidnightCity]
#18916209 - 10/01/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't wanna lighten up... i wanna measure dicks, damnit!!! 
actually, we should just do a scientific study... let's eat some L & some nbome, & see how long they take to kick together...
i had some L at allgood this year... it tested good, but ended up taking waaaaayyyyyyy longer than i expected to kick in... ate 2 blotters of L... waited 60 minutes, felt absolutely nothing... ate 2 more, then 4 more 15 minutes later... was getting pissed, thinking weak-ass doses, so i grabbed 2 blotters of 25i from my buddy (1000ug each, we lay them ourselves)... like clockwork, the nbome kicked in the visuals 15 minutes later... & then i felt that shiver down my spine that nbome never does for me... that very moment i looked at my bro & said "oh fuck man, here we go"... turned out the L was super duper good... i remember one point i had a bowl & a lighter ready to go, but couldn't figure out how to operate those 2 arms without the other 6 getting in the way... one of the best trips ever, but the L didn't even start playing until like 90 minutes in...
sure, sometimes you can feel the L at 30 minutes... but then again, sometimes you get a weak hit & that 30 minute feeling is all you get, you end up pissed, "man, i took 3 hits, didn't feel a fuckin' thing" is usually how it gets stated... those early threshold effects, maybe i just don't consider them to be full-on tripping...
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the bus come by & i got on, that's when it all began
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: leon trout]
#18916231 - 10/01/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's certainly a highly subjective experience so it wouldn't seem that out of the ordinary.
Other than your trip, how was All Good this year? I was too far away to attend this year
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: MidnightCity]
#18916248 - 10/01/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i thought it was great... only complaint i had was with the PA... they didn't have any mid-field sound reinforcement, only stage speakers... might have been due to the on-again off-again threat of rain... other than that it was golden... good music, good drugs, good times...
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Re: first timer with lsd advice? [Re: leon trout]
#18916291 - 10/01/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everyone reacts differently to lysergic acid diethylamide. Come up is between 30 mins - 2 hours depending on subjective things. Whatever.
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