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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18914918 - 10/01/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh the HORROR!

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WASHINGTON, DC -- As the federal government prepares to shut down for the first time since 1995/1996, historical Gallup data reveal that the repercussions of that past conflict ranged from none to short-lived, in terms of Americans' concerns about the U.S. and the political players involved. The 1995/1996 closure, which occurred when -- just like today -- Republican leaders in Congress and a Democratic president failed to agree on the budget, did little to impact Americans' views of President Bill Clinton, Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Congress itself, the U.S. economy, and the country in general in the months after the shutdown began.




http://www.gallup.com/poll/164714/history-suggests-shutdown-stakes-may-not-high.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Presidential%20Job%20Approval


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18914926 - 10/01/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Deadbeats and slackers :lolsy:

Its amazing how the bankers and the politicians who laid economic waste upon your country are never blamed for anything.




What scares me the most is that they blame the poor and claim they are getting free rides.





then scare us and show us we're wrong




Total welfare costs run somewhere around 395 billion year, the housing market looting collapse alone cost your country 8.3 trillion dollars, and countless jobs. These deadbeats are lightweight compared to that.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18915009 - 10/01/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here are a few headlines this morning:

Republicans Aren’t Hostage Takers, They’re Political Terrorists

Thank the GOP for the shutdown and holding the economy hostage


Are you Republicans proud to be Republicans now?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18915014 - 10/01/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think they still are proud of themselves because they actually double think themselves into believing this is the best thing for Merca.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18915026 - 10/01/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The government shut down today.

How many of those people you think are at home playing Grand Theft Auto Online?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18915044 - 10/01/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Here are a few headlines this morning:

Republicans Aren’t Hostage Takers, They’re Political Terrorists

Thank the GOP for the shutdown and holding the economy hostage


Are you Republicans proud to be Republicans now?




LOL, democratic/leftist news sources. Finding unbiased media is impossible these days.

And no, the republicans did what was right. Obamacare is fucked. It's not ready to be implemented. They are doing what is right, trying to get it delayed until they sort out all the kinks so that those who do have healthcare don't get fucked and the economy doesn't get fucked even worse.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18915073 - 10/01/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Are you Republicans proud to be Republicans now?




While I'm not a Republican, I am quite proud of them and their stance on this issue.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Gumby]
    #18915247 - 10/01/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Gumby said:
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Patlal said:
Here are a few headlines this morning:

Republicans Aren’t Hostage Takers, They’re Political Terrorists

Thank the GOP for the shutdown and holding the economy hostage


Are you Republicans proud to be Republicans now?




LOL, democratic/leftist news sources. Finding unbiased media is impossible these days.

And no, the republicans did what was right. Obamacare is fucked. It's not ready to be implemented. They are doing what is right, trying to get it delayed until they sort out all the kinks so that those who do have healthcare don't get fucked and the economy doesn't get fucked even worse.




What are the main kinks to be sorted out?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18915253 - 10/01/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DC is largely shut down today.  even offices that aren't government - typically interact extensively with the government.  nothings going on


Edited by memes (10/01/13 09:55 AM)


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Konyap]
    #18915351 - 10/01/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
The government shut down today.

How many of those people you think are at home playing Grand Theft Auto Online?




Some people have to go to work without being sure they are getting paid. Fuck the republicans.

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DC is largely shut down today.  even offices that aren't government - typically interact extensively with the government.  nothings going on




Yep. This is a one industry town. The whole city comes to a crashing halt.  Contracts are cancelled. It's so fucking stupid.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18915411 - 10/01/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
Fuck the republicans.




Why? They sent several bills to the Senate, who then rejected them.

The Senate is to blame.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Gumby]
    #18915429 - 10/01/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Gumby said:
[the republicans did what was right. Obamacare is fucked. It's not ready to be implemented. They are doing what is right, trying to get it delayed until they sort out all the kinks so that those who do have healthcare don't get fucked and the economy doesn't get fucked even worse.




Shutting down is not the way laws are changed in this country. Ignoring responsibility to obsess over one issue, voting 40 plus times knowing they are just wasting time and money, having pretend filibusters reading "Green Eggs and Ham"... this is some childish shit. It is the job of congress is to make laws, levy taxes, declare wars, regulate interstate commerce and borrow money.

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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18915436 - 10/01/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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koods said:
Fuck the republicans.




Why? They sent several bills to the Senate, who then rejected them.

The Senate is to blame.




Gimme a break. They attached unacceptable riders to a spending bill. The ACA is law and requires funding. That's their job. This is the same thing they do to DC. No funding if you have needle distribution, No funding to count ballots on the medical marijuana vote. It's bullshit.

They are forcing their narrow ideology on a nation that has already voted on this law. It passed congress. It was signed b the president. It was approved by the courts. There was a general election that was called a referendum on the law and the nation reelected the people who were for the law.

The house republicans do not care about good government.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18915486 - 10/01/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Oh the HORROR!

Quote:

WASHINGTON, DC -- As the federal government prepares to shut down for the first time since 1995/1996, historical Gallup data reveal that the repercussions of that past conflict ranged from none to short-lived, in terms of Americans' concerns about the U.S. and the political players involved. The 1995/1996 closure, which occurred when -- just like today -- Republican leaders in Congress and a Democratic president failed to agree on the budget, did little to impact Americans' views of President Bill Clinton, Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Congress itself, the U.S. economy, and the country in general in the months after the shutdown began.




http://www.gallup.com/poll/164714/history-suggests-shutdown-stakes-may-not-high.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Presidential%20Job%20Approval




Oh, so it IS just an enormous temper tantrum by the republicans to try to get their way?

They sent bills to the senate, demanding they get their way. That's not compromise, that's begging for more power than they've got. To fucking bad.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: koods]
    #18915501 - 10/01/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Responding to the wishes of your constituents is not good government?

Huh.

What the Republicans are doing regarding Obamacare happens to coincide with a majority of Americans dislike of Obamacare.

The nation elected the Republicans. They didn't magically appear in office. Many Democrats lost their elections because of Obamacare. Rightfully so.

Perhaps had the Democrats not rammed that travesty through using the methods they did there would be less need for the Republicans to do what they are doing.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Lynnch]
    #18915505 - 10/01/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
Oh, so it IS just an enormous temper tantrum by the republicans to try to get their way?




Nope. They're simply responding to the wishes of their constituents.


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They sent bills to the senate, demanding they get their way. That's not compromise, that's begging for more power than they've got. To fucking bad.




Just saying no isn't a compromise on the part of the Senate. Being told "my way or the highway" by Obama isn't a compromise either.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


Edited by luvdemshrooms (10/01/13 10:40 AM)


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18915512 - 10/01/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The sad fact about the ACA roll out not being ready, is that that's only the case in states where republicans are in control (I wonder why?) Early adopters have everything in place. Most indications in california show that prices will be lower than expected. There's even talk in the state legislature to just bypass the whole thing and go to single payer health care like we ought to anyway.
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Just saying no isn't a compromise on the part of the Senate.



They're simply responding to the wishes of their constituents.


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Lynnch]
    #18915520 - 10/01/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So the Senate responding to the wishes of their constituents is good, but the House responding to the wishes of their constituents is bad?

Perhaps you should let them know.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: Patlal]
    #18915540 - 10/01/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Gumby said:
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Patlal said:
Here are a few headlines this morning:

Republicans Aren’t Hostage Takers, They’re Political Terrorists

Thank the GOP for the shutdown and holding the economy hostage


Are you Republicans proud to be Republicans now?




LOL, democratic/leftist news sources. Finding unbiased media is impossible these days.

And no, the republicans did what was right. Obamacare is fucked. It's not ready to be implemented. They are doing what is right, trying to get it delayed until they sort out all the kinks so that those who do have healthcare don't get fucked and the economy doesn't get fucked even worse.




What are the main kinks to be sorted out?




I'll ask again, what are the kinks to be sorted out with obamacare?


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Re: What's this thing I've been hearing about the US government shutting down? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18915545 - 10/01/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When it comes down to it, the senate is doing the right thing by not allowing the house to force it's way. It's the house that is turning this into an all or nothing battle. They could just drop the issue, fund the government, and in the very next session in congress, move to repeal the ACA. But since they know that they can't do it with normal means, they are resorting to this extortion.  I do not believe that either house of congress should be able to make policy decisions by extortion. We have two houses for a reason. 
They will have every opportunity in the future to repeal the bill if they are right.


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