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Alcohol withdrawal delirium?
    #18910031 - 09/30/13 05:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so I've been drinking consistently for 3 or 4 months now. Today is the 2nd day of not having drunk alcohol. I experienced 2 auditory hallucinations. One was hearing my sister scream really loudly even though she didn't and the other was hearing static in complete silence. I have been drinking like 1L of beer a day. Sometimes more sometimes less..... I'm scared.

I'm also kind of sleep deprived today. Those auditory hallucinations were VERY obvious.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: TheShroomingAtheis] * 1
    #18910035 - 09/30/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, you're fine. This is nowhere near delirium tremens or even alcoholic hallucinosis that is associated with alcohol withdrawal. If you were truly experiencing DTs, it would be unmistakable and unquestionable.
It's probably a result of poor sleep or an overactive imagination.

Go the fuck to sleep.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18910041 - 09/30/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks a lot man. Thank god it's nothing serious. I really should drink less, and sleep more i guess :lol:


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18910061 - 09/30/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And for god sakes drink more WATER


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18910062 - 09/30/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've been doing the :faded: Thang 3 or 4 decades, so yea do what sVs said, get some sleep. My ears ring all the time(FU R&R concerts:rockon:), I see and hear my dead dog barking, and I hear my wife bitching at me a lot(think that one's real:blush:). Dude, GTFO now while you're young . Alcohol is  :poison: ...:cheers: . . . :peace:


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: vinsue]
    #18910068 - 09/30/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
And for god sakes drink more WATER



I do drink quite a lot.
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vinsue said:
I've been doing the :faded: Thang 3 or 4 decades, so yea do what sVs said, get some sleep. My ears ring all the time(FU R&R concerts:rockon:), I see and hear my dead dog barking, and I hear my wife bitching at me a lot(think that one's real:blush:). Dude, GTFO now while you're young . Alcohol is  :poison: ...:cheers: . . . :peace:



Yeah, I really should. I really wish the weed high would remain the same after each use, just like alcohol. I wouldn't be drinking then :lol:


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18910072 - 09/30/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If it helps you auditory hallucinations are really common for me when I've had no sleep.

I was drinking at least 3 40's every day (and a half gallon of rum every week) for years and I didn't really have any withdrawal after stopping. Not sure if I was just lucky or if it takes just that much to get withdrawal.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18911038 - 09/30/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Try drinking for ten years. Withdrawals in their very nature are highly subjective, the minute you begin to think you may and do have them they begin to suck far worse than they should.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18911058 - 09/30/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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sVs said:

It's probably a result of poor sleep or an overactive imagination.




oh that was funny:lol:


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18911097 - 09/30/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:I was drinking at least 3 40's every day (and a half gallon of rum every week) for years and I didn't really have any withdrawal after stopping. Not sure if I was just lucky or if it takes just that much to get withdrawal.



It's not the amount of alcohol per se that determines whether you get withdrawal.
You have to have alcohol in your system near 24/7, so your body gets so used to it, being drunk becomes "normal", and you body makes neurochemical adjustments to take this into account, in attempt to "cancel out" the effect of the alcohol.
If, like me, you drink heavily, but just at night, and are sober most of the day, you won't get DTs, whereas someone who drinks half the amount I do, but spreads it out over the day, every day, they will likely feel shaky when they wake up, from having no alcohol intake while they were asleep, and would have a much stronger reaction to stopping cold turkey.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #18911159 - 09/30/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

one litre of beer a day wont cause WDs like DT's or other hallucinations normally.

You might experience some hand tremors and anxiety though, probably insomnia.

I drank 1.14L(40 ounces) of vodka a day for several years. I did not have full blown delirium tremens. But believe I came close, it was extremely painful and hellish, and dont think cold turkey is the best way to go.

DXM at doses of 2mg/kg of body weight has been shown in studies has been shown to reverse alcohol withdrawls. I used DXM to curb my withdrawls and dosed around 300mg I believe it was. Maybe less. (this isnt advice to do this, if you choose to do this research it. *this is not dosage advice*)


Also, go buy yourself a B-complex vitamin, ethanol abuse causes B-vitamin deficiencies which are very bad for the brain. and can cause alcoholic brain fog.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #18911167 - 09/30/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nah it was all day, not just at night. As soon as I woke up I went and got a beer and didn't stop until I was going to bed.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18911203 - 09/30/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
Nah it was all day, not just at night. As soon as I woke up I went and got a beer and didn't stop until I was going to bed.



Quote:

Shroomslip said:
Nah it was all day, not just at night. As soon as I woke up I went and got a beer and didn't stop until I was going to bed.






Also remember the "kindling effect" with alcohol abuse.

For an alcoholic, each period of sobriety, and relapse greatly increase the quickness of addiction and risk of delirium tremens.

It is an interesting effect, and I believe it occurs with all GABA drugs, like benzos as well.

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Kindling due to substance withdrawal, refers to the neurological condition which results from repeated withdrawal episodes from sedative-hypnotic drugs such as alcohol or benzodiazepines. Each withdrawal leads to more severe withdrawal symptoms than the previous withdrawal syndrome. Individuals who have had more withdrawal episodes are at an increased risk of very severe withdrawal symptoms, up to and including seizures. Withdrawal from GABAergic acting sedative-hypnotic drugs causes acute GABA-under-activity as well as glutamate over-activity which can lead to sensitization and hyper-excitability of the central nervous system, excito-neurotoxicity and increasingly profound neuroadaptions.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindling_%28substance_withdrawal%29


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18911209 - 09/30/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good info have never heard of that before.. Just another reason to not fall back into it.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #18911265 - 09/30/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My sister used to have a friend she used to know that attained a drinking problem, it hadn't occurred to her that she was going to pick up the habit, in some way it seemed to follow her around without her realizing it. She couldn't detect any apparent signs of her becoming attached to drinking, but she did notice that her friend had started drinking without her knowing. Her friend also would drink with other people around, but she would always try to get away so noone in the group knew she was drinking, so much that she would actually make an excuse saying that her friend being there had someway stopped her from usually drinking, and with her friend there she no longer could drink any longer.

Her friend also quit drinking a year after she stopped drinking with that group of friends, whom also decided to never speak of this girl again since she had abandoned the group in favor of solitary drinking, this refusal to enter in social intercourse made her seem stand offish, but myself, being a socialite penetrating the greatest societies built on Earth, in fact being so charming that to not want to know him would be high treason, so much that actually he would be invited to a party hosted by someone he never heard of.

They would invite him somewhere where he hadn't even know a person who would attend that party, since he usually attended party by the upper class and didn't want to associate with the lower scum whom migrated to his society. So instead of choosing to go to that party he would discriminate against the happenings at a place other than his picking, and wish instead to choose his own party to go to. He made the choice to abandon the former party and to find a new one, which his friend also encouraged since he too wanted to go, but his sister urged him to go to her friends party instead, because she had just came from there and saw someone that resembled me but wasn't me, it was actually my brother whom would go to parties pretending to be me, but never actually giving the impression of being me since he failed entire in reflecting any of the ways I spoke, or the way I moved around at a party, which was usually in a manner which seemed to say without fully saying that I was comfortable in my environment, without any definite statements to assure that I was aware of this.

In some ways I would become unaware of what I was doing at a party I stayed up later just to go, that is, I would be somewhere which I couldn't in anyway comprehend, so when my mother urged me to try and understand why I attended these things without ever showing any reluctance to wanting to stay at my own house instead.

Indeed I would rather never return home and just stay here where I seemed blessed with an infinite storage of small trifles which indicated some enormous generosity on behalf of the deliver of those social exchanges, and others would praise me on being such an amiable host to others, giving them anything they wished to have without ever not choosing to give it to them, since I would start playing the role of being a servant helping a master to his coat, which frequently I would, upon seeing the gentleman enter the place I was to receive him in, would walk up to him, not in a haste or with some unaccountable excitability at him attending, but as if I was approaching without trying to come off too strong, since I was modest and servile and only did him the favor of taking off his coat.

Indeed he would seem gratified that I hung his coat up on my rack, and he would thank me afterward and give a polite bow which I complimented, but which, later finding out my daughter was watching me from the top of the stairs, thought I didn't mean it when I said the compliment and asked me to provide her with sufficient proof that I meant what I said. Later that night I had to discuss with her how what I said was something she knew was to be true, that I could never possibly lie to someone about anything, and she, not ever suspecting anything but the truth coming from such a saintly person whom would never resort to lies in order to present something other than what is, whom would actually never even want to be associated with people who lied, and when catching someone in the act of lying would point at them and say that he knew they were lying, but which, always seemed in some ways to please him since the lie was in a way a nice replacement to his version of the truth.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: drkkenny]
    #18911283 - 09/30/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

man i can't imagine drinking every day. i get pretty buzzed off two weekend drinks every now and again...and i have to drink tons of water and exercise the next morning to get my body feeling normal again, even after that.

it's a nice buzz in moderation, but man, it's just so bad for your body in excess....


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: resonant111]
    #18911429 - 09/30/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The weed high stays the same if you take a long-enough break :shrug:


The alcohol "high" changes too, what makes you think it wouldn't?
IMO the fact that it hasn't changed for you is a sign you have nothing to worry about.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: pcplease]
    #18911437 - 09/30/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pcplease said:
The weed high stays the same if you take a long-enough break :shrug:


The alcohol "high" changes too, what makes you think it wouldn't?
IMO the fact that it hasn't changed for you is a sign you have nothing to worry about.




if you wanna get mega high off weed, regardless of tolerance just smoke weed every time you trip lol...

that's the reason i can't smoke bud anymore....if i take just a few hits i start having an LSD trip lol (memory association? who knows). i'm not the only one who has experienced this phenomenon on these forums...


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18911459 - 09/30/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And for god sakes drink more WATER




Ive noticed this. If I dont drink any water the withdrawal is much worse. If I properly hydrate I feel just fine.


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Re: Alcohol withdrawal delirium? [Re: resonant111]
    #18911479 - 09/30/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't called it an LSD trip, I'd call it anxiety.
Cannabinoids are some of the most fear (norepinephrine) inducing drugs in existence.

A lot of people notice it after their first long tolerance break. Long enough to get back to baseline, which takes more than a couple months for most people.


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