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Round 2
    #18908926 - 09/29/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So awhile ago i posted a couple of jars using a tek that wasn't very good. I got alot of negative responses. So i scrapped that project, and started anew. I followed the PF Tek pretty much to the T. Minus two things. Instead of using half pint jars, i used 1/4 pint jars. I also did not use as big of a fruiting chamber. I am using  the shotgun fruiting chamber. Its been about 2 and a half weeks and i believe i am at about 85-90 percent colonization. I have five jars, but each with a different strain. 1 Has ecuador, 1 penis envy, 1 cambodian, 1 s. American, and 1 has amazon. Ill upload some pics when i can(im posting from my phone.) I do have one question though, would having all five cakes each with a different strain in one fruiting chamber cause any problems? I was worried that maybe you could only have one strain per chamber, but was unsure if it would matter. Any comments on the subject?


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18908939 - 09/29/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they should all be fine together in the same fruiting chamber :mushroom2:


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Re: Round 2 [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18909002 - 09/29/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, I was just wanting to make sure. I was worried that with the different strains that there might be a problem with the mushrooms, when the veils break having spores cross contaminate or anything. I really didn't think there would be because considering that while.colonizing, there is more probability that the mycelium can fight off any other things trying to take a foothold. So i didnt think that other spores would do anything. Besides that, the cakes are already colonized so i didnt think that anything would come of it.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18909052 - 09/29/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

as long as there fully colonized on there own cakes theres are no chance of spores from one species taking over the other since they'll be fully developed 

Oh and you should make a a grow log, I'd love to see all those different types of cubes!


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Re: Round 2 [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18909109 - 09/29/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually I have kind of started an elementary grow log. I have the date of inoc, and the date i started to see the white fuzz. I have been checking the jars just about every other day and havent really logged the mycelium growth. What exactly should i have down in my grow log? This is my first grow by myself. I helped a friend a loooooong time ago grow some and he kind of explained it.to the process to me so i started doing some research. Obviously i have started my own grow, but dont exactly know what makes a "good" grow log.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18909134 - 09/29/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well everyone has there own way of doing a grow log but the most common things you should put in them are teks you've used, time stamps (how long it takes for the mycelium to show, how long for them to be able to be birthed, how long did they take to be able to fruit), the weigh of the harvested fruit from each cake, and above all PICTURES.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18909170 - 09/29/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Also Id love some spore samples of some of those strains when they fruit, if you're so kind to share :wink:


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Re: Round 2 [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18909228 - 09/29/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

okay thanks for the info. Like i said i started a log, but ill get on myself about taking better noted and taking alot of pictures. As i said, ill post some pictures when i get a chance.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18910561 - 09/30/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

im not sure what you mean by you'd love some spore samples good sir. Again, sorry im an extreame noob.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18912533 - 09/30/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

okay, so here are the pictures of the jars at about 85% or so colonization.














I'm thinking in roughly about 1 1/2 weeks I'll start to see some pinning, and at that time I am going to get my FC up and running. I'll also take some more pictures of jars as I start to see pinning. I'll take some pictures of the FC and post those as well, so you can see what I'm working with. Again its smaller then the FC in the Tek vids, but so are my jars so I figured if I downsized one, the other wouldn't matter if it was also downsized.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18912580 - 09/30/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark_nemesis said:
im not sure what you mean by you'd love some spore samples good sir. Again, sorry im an extreame noob.




lol idk if this is sarcasm or not, but what I ment was when they are ready to be picked they should start to drop spores from under there caps  and some people cut off the caps off of the stems and place them on aluminum paper or regular paper and millions of spores fall out leaving a black print on the paper, so what I meant was you should send me one of those prints :grin:

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Re: Round 2 [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18912978 - 09/30/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Round 2 [Re: tybojengles]
    #18918338 - 10/01/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay guys, here is an update on my jars. I've taken pictures with a better camera(obviously my phone is nothing compared to my actual camera). Oh and I've read that flipping the jar over on its top about a week before birthing and the D&R to help allow gas exchange. So I've recently flipped the jars over.

My Fruiting Chamber with the jars inside:


I don't have the perlite inside because I am not currently at that stage. As I said, they are at about 90% colonization at this point which you can see from my pictures below.

South American:






Penis Envy:






Cambodian:






Ecuador:






Amazon:






All The Babies in One Shot:


As you can see from the pictures, there is moisture build up inside the jars. This is my first grow, so I am a little worried about the moisture inside the jars. What do you guys have to say on the subject? I know that a little build up is normal, but I'm not quite sure what "normal" is.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18918368 - 10/01/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's perfectly normal for them to condensate, as they are constantly generating heat.

And we know that condensation is from a temperature differential, so yea it's normal.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18918843 - 10/01/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and one more question, should I D&R before I start seeing the signs of pinning, or after? In the RR videos, he said to wait one week after 100% colonized, and then D&R , but I've also read that you should wait till you start to see pinning before removing from the jar and moving to the FC. The latter seems a little counter-productive because IMO I wouldn't think that handling the cakes after pinning would be a good idea (don't want to damage the pins/cause excessive bruising).  Also would you guys say that my assessment of the percentage of colonization is accurate based on my photos? I'm just wondering because I don't want to wait too long to D&R.

and sorry for all the "fancyness" of the text, im just messing around with the buttons up top the comment box and learning  :takingnotes:  :takingnotes:
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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18920089 - 10/02/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone?


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18920757 - 10/02/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Always give BRF cakes an extra week for consolidation.

They will just sit in the FC and consolidate if you don't.

That is a bunch of wasted misting/fanning for nothing.

Even if there are invitro pins, let them consolidate.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18921556 - 10/02/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ah okay, thank you. When I birth the cakes, I want to cut the pins off though correct? I was reading on another thread of a guy who birthed them without cutting them off, and he said he got a really slimy cap.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: dark_nemesis]
    #18921570 - 10/02/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ah okay, thank you. When I birth the cakes, I want to cut the pins off though correct?



No, just dunk for 24 hours in tap water, roll/sprinkle them gently with dry verm and place them in the fruiting chamber.

The pins that are there would most likely turn out to be your biggest fruits.

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I was reading on another thread of a guy who birthed them without cutting them off, and he said he got a really slimy cap.



Slimy caps have nothing to do with leaving invitro pins attached.

They will be fine, all mine were when I was doing cakes.


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Re: Round 2 [Re: PussyFart]
    #18921742 - 10/02/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, thanks for the info.


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