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possible pan cinct.
    #18908524 - 09/29/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat:
Northern Maine, Grassy field, on soil

Gills: Black, not attached


Stem:  1-6 inches long, white becoming almost black as dryed...Very root like under ground, fiberious, root like hairs coming off stem

Cap: 1/2- 2inches, Bell shaped, light brown/ golden brown, bruises blue

Spore print color: Jet black

Bruising: blue on caps, stem brusing very dark brown to black

Other information: very strong mushroom aroma




I can post more pics if needed!!


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: first time expert]
    #18908709 - 09/29/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is there just that one blue cap? I don't see any blue on any others. What stem is from the bluing cap shown? If they are Pans bruising blue on the cap outside of the tropics or sub-tropics then Panaeolus bisporus is more likely than Panaeolus cinctulus, which is not known for intense orb even regularly bluing fruits, and will generally only bruise faintly blue around the base and/or on mycellium at the base. I would like to see more pics. I am not aware of Panaeolus sp. having very root like mycellium(more so than other/most species?), but it's not my main focus either so maybe I just haven't noticed or remembered seeing or reading about mycellium of that nature with Pans.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: ambc]
    #18908753 - 09/29/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Looks very much like p. subb/ p. cinct to me.  See how the lamellae have three tiers and are gear-like?


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: dokunai]
    #18908780 - 09/29/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It is likely that the mushroom you have there was sprayed with an herbicide. No P. cinctulus will bruise like that.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: Ganzig]
    #18909550 - 09/29/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well. they were deff not sprayed with any thing, since they were found about 3 miles from the closest road. There are only a few caps that have the very distinct blue like the pics.  All the stems were white when they were fresh and at their peak.

There were probably over 1000 shrooms in this patch.  They also have a unique dome cap with the gills flat across to the stem. Alot of the margins had a ring that was darker and almost transparent on some shrooms.

I dont think ive seen the root like hair myc on the base of the stems before, they were anchored in pretty good and would rip up a good chunk of the ground when i pulled them up.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: first time expert]
    #18909790 - 09/30/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

More pictures would be cool. Any blue stems?


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: kcrocker802]
    #18910590 - 09/30/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the medium brown spore drop on the caps and cinnamon brown gills point toward Agrocybe pediades.

the "bluing" is most likely trich.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: bloodworm]
    #18910751 - 09/30/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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kcrocker802 said:
More pictures would be cool. Any blue stems?




Def.

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bloodworm said:


the "bluing" is most likely trich.




I don't think that is trich but a non-blurry picture would clear that
up right away.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: Ganzig]
    #18925215 - 10/03/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the gills arent attached so I think the Agrocybe pediades would be out because they have attached gills.

The cinniminon color is due to bad lighting and shitty pics. The print is jet black, the gills are black, and there is bluing on probably 1/4 of the caps and some very light blue on the stems.

the best pics i could put up would be...and the ones I posted...shit

I should have taken more pics while they were wet... Im going back to the area soon and will get more pics.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: first time expert]
    #18925913 - 10/03/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It turns out Agrocybe has variable gill attachment; the first ones I ever found were decurrent. Black spore print rules it out though.


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Re: possible pan cinct. [Re: thiotimoline]
    #18926786 - 10/03/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet lil garden brother.


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