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Canadian Research Chem laws
    #18900619 - 09/27/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Im wondering legal status of some RC's like 2-fa and 4-fa (now that the laws changed with bill c-10), In Canada


http://isomerdesign.com/Cdsa/schedule.php?schedule=1§ion=18.5&structure=C

This website seems to have the most up to date info on illegal chems.

This is the section for Amphetamines.....

Quote:



Effective 6 Nov 2012, S.C. 2012, c. 1 added:
On 20 Sep 2011, Bill C-10, 1st Sess., 41st Parl. proposed to add:
19.Amphetamines, their salts, derivatives, isomers and analogues and salts of derivatives, isomers and analogues including:
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Amphetamines


1. Amphetamine (α-Methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part II Class B Section 1(a) Amphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule II Amfetamine (Amphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule II Section d Subsection 1 Amphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 1 Amphetamine

2. N-Ethylamphetamine (N-Ethyl-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part III Class C Section 1(a) N-Ethylamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule IV Etilamfetamine (N-Ethylamphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule I Section f Subsection 7 N-Ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 3 N-Ethylamphetamine

3.4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (2,5-Dimethoxy-4,α-dimethylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) 2,5-Dimethoxy-α,4-dimethylphenethylamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I STP (DOM)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 9 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 4 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

4.3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA) (α-Methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I Tenamfetamine (MDA)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 10 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 5 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA)

5.2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine (2,5-Dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I DMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 4 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 6 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine

6.4-Methoxyamphetamine (4-Methoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Methoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I PMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 7 4-Methoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 7 4-Methoxyamphetamine

7. 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine (2,4,5-Trimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
EU: Substances Substances TMA-2
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 8 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine

8. (8)N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N,α-Dimethyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MDMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 11 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 9 N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

9. 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 10 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

10.  5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (7-Methoxy-α-methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MMDA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 8 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 11 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

11. N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N,N,α-Trimethyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(ba) Dimethyl(α-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 12 N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

12. N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N-Ethyl-α-methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MDE (N-Ethyl MDA)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 12 3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 13 N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

13. 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I DOET
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 5 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 14 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

14. 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylphenethylamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I Brolamfetamine (DOB)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 2 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 15 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

15. 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 16 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

16. 4-Ethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 17 4-Ethoxyamphetamine

17. Benzphetamine (N-Benzyl-N,α-dimethylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part III Class C Section 1(a) Benzphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule IV Benzfetamine (Benzphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule III Section b Subsection 2 Benzphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 18 Benzphetamine

18. N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (α-Methyl-N-propyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 19 N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

19. N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-α-methylbenzeneethanamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 20 N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-α-methylbenzeneethanamine

20.N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N-[α-Methyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethyl]hydroxylamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) N-Hydroxy-tenamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I N-Hydroxy MDA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 13 N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 21 N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

21. 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine (3,4,5-Trimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I TMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 14 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 22 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine





so does this mean only the "analogs" listed are illegal.  So 2-fa and 2-4a are still not banned?  or does it mean they are a analog of a amp so they are a class 1?


thanks for any help


Edited by Anonymous (09/29/13 05:57 PM)


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18901029 - 09/27/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Im wondering legal status of some RC's like 2-fa and 4-fa (now that the laws changed with bill c-10), In Canada


http://isomerdesign.com/Cdsa/schedule.php?schedule=1§ion=18.5&structure=C

This website seems to have the most up to date info on illegal chems.

This is the section for Amphetamines.....

Quote:



Effective 6 Nov 2012, S.C. 2012, c. 1 added:
On 20 Sep 2011, Bill C-10, 1st Sess., 41st Parl. proposed to add:
19.Amphetamines, their salts, derivatives, isomers and analogues and salts of derivatives, isomers and analogues including:
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Amphetamines


1. Amphetamine (α-Methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part II Class B Section 1(a) Amphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule II Amfetamine (Amphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule II Section d Subsection 1 Amphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 1 Amphetamine

2. N-Ethylamphetamine (N-Ethyl-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part III Class C Section 1(a) N-Ethylamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule IV Etilamfetamine (N-Ethylamphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule I Section f Subsection 7 N-Ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 3 N-Ethylamphetamine

3.4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (2,5-Dimethoxy-4,α-dimethylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) 2,5-Dimethoxy-α,4-dimethylphenethylamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I STP (DOM)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 9 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 4 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

4.3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA) (α-Methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I Tenamfetamine (MDA)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 10 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 5 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA)

5.2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine (2,5-Dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I DMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 4 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 6 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine

6.4-Methoxyamphetamine (4-Methoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Methoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I PMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 7 4-Methoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 7 4-Methoxyamphetamine

7. 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine (2,4,5-Trimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
EU: Substances Substances TMA-2
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 8 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine

8. (8)N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N,α-Dimethyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MDMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 11 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 9 N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

9. 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 10 4-Ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

10.  5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (7-Methoxy-α-methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MMDA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 8 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 11 5-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

11. N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N,N,α-Trimethyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(ba) Dimethyl(α-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 12 N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

12. N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N-Ethyl-α-methyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I MDE (N-Ethyl MDA)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 12 3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 13 N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

13. 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I DOET
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 5 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethylamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 14 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

14. 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylphenethylamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I Brolamfetamine (DOB)
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 2 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 15 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

15. 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 16 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine

16. 4-Ethoxyamphetamine (4-Ethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 4-Ethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 17 4-Ethoxyamphetamine

17. Benzphetamine (N-Benzyl-N,α-dimethylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part III Class C Section 1(a) Benzphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule IV Benzfetamine (Benzphetamine)
US: CSA Schedule III Section b Subsection 2 Benzphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 18 Benzphetamine

18. N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (α-Methyl-N-propyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 19 N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

19. N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-α-methylbenzeneethanamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 20 N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-α-methylbenzeneethanamine

20.N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (N-[α-Methyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethyl]hydroxylamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(a) N-Hydroxy-tenamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I N-Hydroxy MDA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 13 N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 21 N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine

21. 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine (3,4,5-Trimethoxy-α-methylbenzeneethanamine)
UK: MDA Part I Class A Section 1(c) 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
UN: Psychotropics Schedule I TMA
US: CSA Schedule I Section d Subsection 14 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine
CA: Previously at CDSA Schedule III Section 1 Subsection 22 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine





so does this mean only the "analogs" listed are illegal.  So 2-fa and 2-4a are still not banned?  or does it mean they are a analog of a amp so they are a class 1?


thanks for any help





I haven't seen them in Canada yet, and recently read health canada considers them analogs of amphetamine. So probably cant get them imported too legit.


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18908144 - 09/29/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well i cant find any info on 2-fa legal status in canada


I did find this massive list of chemicals and if they are scheduled or not in canada ....
http://isomerdesign.com/Cdsa/ocsStatus.php

I searched for the cas and chemical name and cant find 2-fa or 4-fa (+5 to anyone who can find em)



I kinda wanna order 2-5 gms soon From over seas but dont wanna get charged for importing anything illegal.  How they have it worded it makes it sound like the analogs listed are banned.... not allll amp analogs. 


Anyone else with advice or wisdom?


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18908167 - 09/29/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

19.Amphetamines, their salts, derivatives, isomers and analogues and salts of derivatives, isomers and analogues including:


.........





its does not say "but not limited to ".... So does this mean only whats listed is banned?


Edited by Anonymous (09/29/13 06:30 PM)


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18908237 - 09/29/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately due to the analogue clause in the CDSA I would interpret it to include 2-FA and 4-FA. That being said, a few grams are not going to be an issue..


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18908285 - 09/29/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so if a guy ordered 2gms of 2-FA and 2ms of 2-FMA.... he shouldnt have a legal problem if customs does find them?


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Re: Canadian laws [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18908370 - 09/29/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
so if a guy ordered 2gms of 2-FA and 2ms of 2-FMA.... he shouldnt have a legal problem if customs does find them?




I meant they are most likely just going to send you a "love letter" saying they were seized if they found them. That being said unless the vendor you are using is completely incompetent customs won't find them. 4 grams of powder will easily be hidden in a normal business envelope.


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