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what psychedelic should i try?
    #18907553 - 09/29/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

here i am again, trying to figure out what psychedelic i should do. only others i have done are salvia, and i tried 25c-nboh but not much happened .
so i need something else, acid is no where to be found around here, same with mushrooms, don't fancy the nausea on LSA, i heard dxm has bad nausea with it, and all other research chemicals (4-aco, 4-ho, 2c, 5-meo) are banned in the UK
anyone got any ideas on what i should do?


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18907558 - 09/29/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

mescaline
al-lad
LSZ
oral dmt


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18907625 - 09/29/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I don't think literally all research chemicals can possibly be banned in the UK. Although, I can't actually say which ones might be technically legal because I know there are ridiculous blanket bans on whole classes of chemicals there...so yeah, could be hard. Are you sure AL-LAD is banned there?

Aside from synthetic materials, there are multiple mescaline containing cacti and DMT containing plants that are not banned anywhere in the world to my knowledge. Plus, mushrooms are really easy to grow, unless spores are also illegal in the UK (actually wouldn't surprise me)...


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Ok amoismis]
    #18907715 - 09/29/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just pick some liberty caps. They are growing now as I type. That's the only psychedelic I would recommend anyone. I would also advise staying away from research chemicals.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18907826 - 09/29/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

All the "psychs" you have access to are more difficult to get off on.

4 aco dmt is awesome, the internet is your friend,be careful with all other rc's

look into cactus brews which take all day to prepare,no rushing

look into growing mushrooms,its cheap and youll make a lot of friends

go to festivals and or concerts with drug inspired music,you will find good acid

I would steer clear from DMT if youre inexperienced.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Ok amoismis]
    #18907861 - 09/29/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok amoismis said:
Yeah I don't think literally all research chemicals can possibly be banned in the UK. Although, I can't actually say which ones might be technically legal because I know there are ridiculous blanket bans on whole classes of chemicals there...so yeah, could be hard. Are you sure AL-LAD is banned there?

Aside from synthetic materials, there are multiple mescaline containing cacti and DMT containing plants that are not banned anywhere in the world to my knowledge. Plus, mushrooms are really easy to grow, unless spores are also illegal in the UK (actually wouldn't surprise me)...




na not all but, you know what i mean, what's that are talked about alot,AL-LAD is legal, but pretty bloody pricey.

what is mescaline like on the nausea side of things?


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18907928 - 09/29/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

usually cactus makes you puke


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18908451 - 09/29/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

search for uk al-lad and lsz vendors...or join uk chemical research.com...theres one or 2 i know of....10 tabs for about 70 euro...thats including the 10 euro quick signed for delivery....all above board and great communications....but this site im on about will be stopping for a few months apparently shortly....fuck knows why but they're saying there running out of stock and have to synthesize more??? could be a marketing scam...could be true:shrug:

either way they're legit....google is your friend!!!! 

failing that get outdoors and pick some shrooms...which are free and plentiful at the moment!!!

or as someone else has said buy some cactus and do what you will with it...

you have many options:thumbup:


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Simple-Psyman]
    #18908508 - 09/29/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hm, ill consider AL-LAD if i can get the right price. Might buy some 25i-nboh complexed though, if all else fails ill go back on the hunt for shrooms


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18908609 - 09/29/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

to be honest i didnt feel the nbombe's did very much for me....it was more like an enhancement to my night instead of actually going on a trip.....al-lad and lsz were perfectly trippy by the definition of it in my mind....if not then look for eastern european vendors and you can get 2-cC/D and 2-cP....aMT etc......lots of choices if you put in the time for searching!!!


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18909149 - 09/29/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

n-n DMT(smoked or oral with a maoi) mescaline,dxm isnt a psychedelic, its a dissociotive, but if your into those you could try ketamine.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Simple-Psyman]
    #18909912 - 09/30/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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to be honest i didnt feel the nbombe's did very much for me....it was more like an enhancement to my night instead of actually going on a trip.....al-lad and lsz were perfectly trippy by the definition of it in my mind....if not then look for eastern european vendors and you can get 2-cC/D and 2-cP....aMT etc......lots of choices if you put in the time for searching!!!




i've put plenty of time searching, but i'm worried about anything i buy from a different country not being able to get into the UK


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18909917 - 09/30/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:cactuar:


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18909928 - 09/30/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think you can import cubensis growkits from the Netherlands. But check the legality in your country first, in some nations it's even illegal to buy spores, man!

That's crazy!


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #18909977 - 09/30/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm I thought you could buy fresh cubensis at head shops in the UK 'cause they're technically not illegal until you dry them out. Could be wrong about that though.

Yeah I would either try to find some liberty caps which are a good shroom but full of worms or just figure out where all the hippies hang out and make some friends. It's all about connections man

Research chems are kinda :disappointedlaugh: IMO. You're better off saving yourself for a real psychedelic if you can but ya just gotta do whatever feels right :peace:


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: WackyTobaccy]
    #18910039 - 09/30/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

nah, shrooms are illegal, i might buy a grow kit but i'm not sure yet.
the only shrooms i have found growing around here yet are panaeolus cinctulus, but from what i've read they are inactive.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18910055 - 09/30/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

cintulus are definitely active my friend. Not sure on the potency but that varies depending on the conditions... Just gotta make sure you have a good ID on that before you go eating 'em. Check out the 'psilocybin species' document on the mushroom hunting page under 'mushroom info'. It has some dosage guide lines for cintulus.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18910685 - 09/30/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you're in the UK you need to pick some liberty caps.
Go out to your nearest field with sheep or cows and have a look for them.

It really isn't that hard.

They grow all over the place here.

If you're in a city with no car then look for wood chip beds, they might have cyans in them.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18911263 - 09/30/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liamfriar199 said:
here i am again, trying to figure out what psychedelic i should do. only others i have done are salvia, and i tried 25c-nboh but not much happened .
so i need something else, acid is no where to be found around here, same with mushrooms, don't fancy the nausea on LSA, i heard dxm has bad nausea with it, and all other research chemicals (4-aco, 4-ho, 2c, 5-meo) are banned in the UK
anyone got any ideas on what i should do?



you muppet its liberty cap season right now in uk, go up your local mountain and theres 1000s to be had, maybe try 25 for first time


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: nssurge]
    #18911275 - 09/30/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

id recommend growing some mushrooms then no danger of chems or misidentification when mush hunting. its cheap and easy to grow.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: dirty]
    #18911291 - 09/30/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

MDA!!!!

I really think it's such an overlooked drug. I love the combination of psychedelia and ecstasy. I feel at total peace and right with the world unlike most psychedelics I take, which give me bad anxiety. No come down, no hangover for me.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #18911386 - 09/30/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're on the shroomery. Grow some shrooms.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #18911901 - 09/30/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any of em.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18912644 - 09/30/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just pick some liberty caps. They are growing now as I type. I would also advise staying away from research chemicals.


:whathesaid:

Mushrooms are perfect for someone relatively new to psychedelics and you can find them yourself (then get them ID'd here!). It's a classic psychedelic and a really great starting point.

If you haven't had much experience with psychedelics I would highly suggest you avoid the alphabet soup of research chemicals and other off-beat compounds. Mushrooms are in season (in your area, now) are free and easy to find.

Again, stick with the time-tested, well known psychedlics if you are inexperienced in this area.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: MidnightCity]
    #18913287 - 09/30/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DMT is defo worth a try.  the "Changa" infused smoking blend is perfect for newbs and short acting so over very quick and no time to worry or panic at all.

Im sure LSD should be on the list too!  There is a reason why its been so damn popular over the years :wink:


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18913582 - 09/30/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DOC or cactus


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: spixce]
    #18913586 - 09/30/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

all of 'em.  you only live once.


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    #18913593 - 09/30/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #18913606 - 09/30/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You're on the shroomery. Grow some shrooms.




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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: leon trout]
    #18913947 - 09/30/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Try Salvia again, and do it right.

Try to stay away from various kinds of shit pills and powders and RC's, go with the tried and true psychedelics that have stood the test of time. Shrooms, lsd, ayahuasca, mescaline-containing cacti.

Ayahuasca is legal in the Netherlands, and being in the UK you're one flight away from them. Google about the Santo Daime in the Netherlands, get your marbles together and set up a pilgrimage. It is very much worth it, I've been 5 times already and don't plan to stop any time soon. Also you'll get all the weed you want and more importantly, truffles. Couchsurfing is your friend, all you need is 2-3 hosts to spend a weekend or a week there, and the doors will be open for you from then on.

Grow your own if you can't import shrooms and kits (not recommended in fact, paranoia is good for you here) or get some more knowledgeable friends who can pick or grow. I hear shrooms do grow naturally in some parts of the UK, quite profusely in fact. Acid shouldn't be so hard to score, I doubt you can go to 2-3 psy parties / festivals without running into several people that have or deal. Either ask, or look for the telltale signs and the wide pupils :lol:


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18914548 - 10/01/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ill go hunt for some shrooms soon, it was beginning of september when i went looking so ill have a look now, i would rather stay away from ayahuasca right now, but id like to give it a go in the future, ill report back with my mushroom findings


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18914632 - 10/01/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liamfriar199 said:
here i am again, trying to figure out what psychedelic i should do. only others i have done are salvia, and i tried 25c-nboh but not much happened .
so i need something else, acid is no where to be found around here, same with mushrooms, don't fancy the nausea on LSA, i heard dxm has bad nausea with it, and all other research chemicals (4-aco, 4-ho, 2c, 5-meo) are banned in the UK
anyone got any ideas on what i should do?




My favorite Psychedelic I've tried is probably Ketamine.
If you take a lot, and get into the K hole you trip balls!!
I'd advise sitting down with about a couple mates and a few gram's each, watching some Star War's or something.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: MushyCork]
    #18914981 - 10/01/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Mushrooms! Liberty caps are in season in the UK (apart from here in London where there is f*ck all rain). Look on how to pick them, and post your pictures here to get them identified. I researched on how to pick them in my spare time about 6 months before I went hunting the first time. You don't have time for that if you want them this year, so start researching on how to pick them now and post your pics!


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18915168 - 10/01/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liamfriar199 said:
here i am again, trying to figure out what psychedelic i should do. only others i have done are salvia, and i tried 25c-nboh but not much happened .
so i need something else, acid is no where to be found around here, same with mushrooms, don't fancy the nausea on LSA, i heard dxm has bad nausea with it, and all other research chemicals (4-aco, 4-ho, 2c, 5-meo) are banned in the UK
anyone got any ideas on what i should do?



All other research chemicals are banned in the UK?  No ... simply not the case.  A number of them on your "checklist" are both legal and currently available.  If you have a mailing address, you have ready access.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: MushyCork]
    #18915242 - 10/01/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liamfriar199 said:
here i am again, trying to figure out what psychedelic i should do. only others i have done are salvia, and i tried 25c-nboh but not much happened .
so i need something else, acid is no where to be found around here, same with mushrooms, don't fancy the nausea on LSA, i heard dxm has bad nausea with it, and all other research chemicals (4-aco, 4-ho, 2c, 5-meo) are banned in the UK
anyone got any ideas on what i should do?




My favorite Psychedelic I've tried is probably Ketamine.
If you take a lot, and get into the K hole you trip balls!!
I'd advise sitting down with about a couple mates and a few gram's each, watching some Star War's or something.



ketamine isnt a psychedelic, but a dissocioative and a few grams each is just too much. You need 250mg doses to get into a "k hole"


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psychedelicking]
    #18916574 - 10/01/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

^ to each their own


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18916622 - 10/01/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

get a mushroom growkit , grow bag
cheap and about as good as lsd

lsd is the best IMO
look harder

instead of looking for RCs

get a cactus instead if you can't find LSD
peru torch or bridgesii

as good as lsd, some say mescaline is even better


but lsd is goood, so much love for everything and one with the universe  and your inner being as long as setting is good (nature+psytrance)

mushrooms,lsd,salvia are the only psychedelics/drugs I need
if I cant find one, I can just try and find the other... they're all equally good
salvia gives good mood/everything is clear after it  , and epic smoking with your friends

what is the best drug?
meditation , and lucid dreaming(better than the best trip often , better visuals too) , and nature
but lsd is very nice too once in a while.. lots of good insight into myself and the world


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: lessismore]
    #18916693 - 10/01/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Didnt get the chance today, will go tomorrow, special k can wait haha, have any of you got pics of ones you have picked this season in uk?


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: lessismore]
    #18916714 - 10/01/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

take them all...at once


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18918613 - 10/01/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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^ to each their own




I'm not  quite sure what you meant by this


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psychedelicking]
    #18920140 - 10/02/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i forgot i bought 25i-Nboh a while back, it arrivede today, 6 1200ug complexed blotters, might aswel give them a shot tonight, probably only 1/4 just to see what its like and go hunting for shrooms another time


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18920172 - 10/02/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You won't "see what it's like" off a quarter of a tab. You will more than likely just get a headache.
You are about to experience my worst drug ever, so I'm not going to tell you to do more. I'd do an 16th if I were you. Or none.

In all seriousness though, it does apparently work for a lot of people. Some people get negative physical/mental effects and some have a great time with no physical discomfort at all.

Its a gamble though. Be careful


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #18920193 - 10/02/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MDA!!!!

I really think it's such an overlooked drug. I love the combination of psychedelia and ecstasy. I feel at total peace and right with the world unlike most psychedelics I take, which give me bad anxiety. No come down, no hangover for me.




I've never really thought of MDMA as a psychedelic. I've not done it for a good few years though (since I got into psychedelics, ha), so I might not have been in the right environment to experience it fully. I associate it with ecstasy, speed and Mcat etc. I used to do it a fair bit 5 or 6 years ago.
But saying that, I've heard from quite a few different sources that MDMA hasn't been around since the 80s, and what is being passed off as MDMA these days is something very different. So I might not have taken it at all.

How do you KNOW what you think is MDMA is really MDMA? This is why it's best to stick to plants. No bullshit.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18920200 - 10/02/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

L. Try L


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18920212 - 10/02/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18920637 - 10/02/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You won't "see what it's like" off a quarter of a tab. You will more than likely just get a headache.
You are about to experience my worst drug ever, so I'm not going to tell you to do more. I'd do an 16th if I were you. Or none.

In all seriousness though, it does apparently work for a lot of people. Some people get negative physical/mental effects and some have a great time with no physical discomfort at all.

Its a gamble though. Be careful




may i ask why its your worst drug ever? after trying 1/2 a tab of 25C all i got was a headache, some of my friends are the "go big or go home" kinda thing when it comes to new drugs, i like to take it easy though, thanks.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #18920697 - 10/02/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You're on the shroomery. Grow some shrooms.




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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18922142 - 10/02/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

took 1/2 a tab of 25I, only a slight buzz no hallucinations nothing, im giving up on research chemicals now, i think ill just wait until i can find some shrooms or get a hold of lucy


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18923585 - 10/02/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18923876 - 10/02/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ill go hunt for some shrooms soon, it was beginning of september when i went looking so ill have a look now, i would rather stay away from ayahuasca right now, but id like to give it a go in the future, ill report back with my mushroom findings



Umm, why stay away from aya? If it's financial reasons, like you can't be bothered to go over to NL for it, that I can understand. If it's substance reasons, that I don't. Aya, at least for me, was one of the most "ergonomic" things I've ever taken, and the ceremony itself, with all the music for all those hours, has been the gift that keeps on giving.

I see in other posts that you're considering all manner of suspicious tabs and chemicals, IMO you're going to give yourself a needless bad time sooner or later, and put unnecessary stress on your system, by exploring these strange molecules. Shrooms and aya are time tested. Healthy. Good for you.

If you think it might be "too strong" for you, I say hogwash. You go to that church and see old feeble grandmas in their 60s taking it, you quickly realize your fears were totally unfounded. My 2 cents at least, I'd skip the dubious tabs, start planning for the real thing.


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18923898 - 10/02/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DEF 4-ACO-DMT!!!!


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18924372 - 10/03/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ill go hunt for some shrooms soon, it was beginning of september when i went looking so ill have a look now, i would rather stay away from ayahuasca right now, but id like to give it a go in the future, ill report back with my mushroom findings



Umm, why stay away from aya? If it's financial reasons, like you can't be bothered to go over to NL for it, that I can understand. If it's substance reasons, that I don't. Aya, at least for me, was one of the most "ergonomic" things I've ever taken, and the ceremony itself, with all the music for all those hours, has been the gift that keeps on giving.

I see in other posts that you're considering all manner of suspicious tabs and chemicals, IMO you're going to give yourself a needless bad time sooner or later, and put unnecessary stress on your system, by exploring these strange molecules. Shrooms and aya are time tested. Healthy. Good for you.

If you think it might be "too strong" for you, I say hogwash. You go to that church and see old feeble grandmas in their 60s taking it, you quickly realize your fears were totally unfounded. My 2 cents at least, I'd skip the dubious tabs, start planning for the real thing.




The only thing putting me off is the chances youl probably be sick, dont get me wrong it would be awesome to find out the things it teaches. Maybe in the future


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: danlennon3]
    #18924374 - 10/03/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DEF 4-ACO-DMT!!!!




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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18924847 - 10/03/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ill go hunt for some shrooms soon, it was beginning of september when i went looking so ill have a look now, i would rather stay away from ayahuasca right now, but id like to give it a go in the future, ill report back with my mushroom findings



Umm, why stay away from aya? If it's financial reasons, like you can't be bothered to go over to NL for it, that I can understand. If it's substance reasons, that I don't. Aya, at least for me, was one of the most "ergonomic" things I've ever taken, and the ceremony itself, with all the music for all those hours, has been the gift that keeps on giving.

I see in other posts that you're considering all manner of suspicious tabs and chemicals, IMO you're going to give yourself a needless bad time sooner or later, and put unnecessary stress on your system, by exploring these strange molecules. Shrooms and aya are time tested. Healthy. Good for you.

If you think it might be "too strong" for you, I say hogwash. You go to that church and see old feeble grandmas in their 60s taking it, you quickly realize your fears were totally unfounded. My 2 cents at least, I'd skip the dubious tabs, start planning for the real thing.




The ceremonies are absolutely beautiful and have been one of the best this that ever happened to me. However, I can't recommend ayahuasca as a recreational drug out of personal experience. Is a very difficult trip to work through in the wrong setting


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18924937 - 10/03/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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may i ask why its your worst drug ever? after trying 1/2 a tab of 25C all i got was a headache, some of my friends are the "go big or go home" kinda thing when it comes to new drugs, i like to take it easy though, thanks.




Yea no worries.
I bought 3 off some dodgy dealer I know thinking it was LSD. I pick my own mushrooms usually, but just wanted to try acid once or twice to see what it was like, and he said he had some so I went with it.

I took half, and then waited and hour and took another half. That really didn't do much apart from give me a slight headache for a few hours and my room looked quite pretty/peaceful. Someone on here said low doses of LSD sometimes give you a headache. So the weekend after, still thinking it was acid, I took the remaining two tabs - one straight after the other.
It came on fast and hard and I soon realised it wasn't LSD at all, by all the amphetamine effects I was getting. My fingers and toes were going numb and I kept scrunching them up and stuff without realising. My back and neck were aching and I had the worst headache ever. It felt like someone had injected poison into my veins.

So there I was with some mystery drug in my system, not sure whether I'd be tripping for 24 hours or 48, and it all went a bit downhill from there.
So I came on here for some advice/reassurance, and some clever chaps figured out that it was 25i from what I described to them. Knowing that it was only going to last 5 or 6 hours and not 24 didn't help as much as you'd expect though because it was just too intense.
I couldn't lie down and chill out because I was too anxious. So I went downstairs to put the tele on to try and distract me but couldn't concentrate or sit still. Went outside for a bit but that was too much so I came inside again. Had to keep checking if both doors were locked properly and make sure the oven was switched off and things like that.

It was a horrible, hell-like trip. Very dark indeed.
Headaches lingered into the next few days, but the paranoia, anxiety, and OCD lasted much longer. I had lost any confidence I had of my own mind and lacked self esteem.

I had been feeling those negative effects ever since that night (which was just over a year ago). Not as strong as at the time obviously, but there were definitely some signs of damage. I felt like I'd become disconnected with my soul somehow.

That was until last weekend, when mushrooms well and truly healed me. I now feel even better than I did before I took that horrible shit. Seriously. I had a miraculous night involving a low/medium dose of liberty caps and this album...
http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Views+From+A+Red+Train/4212493

I woke up the next day feeling alive and inspired. I laughed at the guy I'd been the past year and thanked whatever it was that saved me. I'm not religious at all by the way, but the mushroom spirit/consciousness/intelligence or whatever is REAL. A lot of people don't close their eyes enough though so they never really get to truly experience it.

Like I said though, 25i is a bit hit and miss. Works with some brains and not others.
Maybe if I knew what it was before taking it I'd have had a better time. But I think the physical effects were completely unavoidable for me. So I wouldn't have enjoyed it anyway :shrug:
The open eye visuals were quite wild, but unimpressive. Just looked like cheap Chinese counterfeit mushroom visuals to me. I didn't notice any closed eye visuals at all, which is what I love the most about psilocybin.

Sorry for the megalong post BTW but that is why it is my worst drug ever.
It is partly responsible for the 3rd worst night of life ever.
I also accept responsibility for taking it in the first place. The dodgy dealer dude still reckons it was acid and I don't think he is capable of accepting responsibility for anything.

Do you mind saying how much of it you bought and how much you paid for it. Just curious.

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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: Psilocypher]
    #18925619 - 10/03/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wow, doesn't seem pleasent.
the 25I it was 5 tabs, 1200ug for £10, however they did chuck in another one for free, 25C was the same price, but 1000ug i was really skeptical at first, never heard much about the NBOH but i decided to go with it, i am pretty dissapointed in the results with both drugs, side effects with both drugs was also a headache and no sleep, i took the 25I yesterday climbed into bed at 11pm and didn't fall asleep until 5:30 then woke up an hour later, not very nice


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18926410 - 10/03/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The only thing putting me off is the chances youl probably be sick, dont get me wrong it would be awesome to find out the things it teaches




man... don't take this as a flame, it's not... but if you wanna taste what the world has to offer in terms of stuff like this, you can't be a pussy about it... you are looking into substances that rip yr consciousness into other dimensions, but yr gonna balk at a little vomit?.. you mentioned shrooms earlier, that you might wait till they come around... they can bring a little nausea too... don't let that scare you... mushrooms & aya are two of the most beautiful experiences in the world... if i gotta puke for that, well, that's small change compared to the reward...


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    #18926443 - 10/03/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The only thing putting me off is the chances youl probably be sick, dont get me wrong it would be awesome to find out the things it teaches




man... don't take this as a flame, it's not... but if you wanna taste what the world has to offer in terms of stuff like this, you can't be a pussy about it... you are looking into substances that rip yr consciousness into other dimensions, but yr gonna balk at a little vomit?.. you mentioned shrooms earlier, that you might wait till they come around... they can bring a little nausea too... don't let that scare you... mushrooms & aya are two of the most beautiful experiences in the world... if i gotta puke for that, well, that's small change compared to the reward...



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The only thing putting me off is the chances youl probably be sick, dont get me wrong it would be awesome to find out the things it teaches




man... don't take this as a flame, it's not... but if you wanna taste what the world has to offer in terms of stuff like this, you can't be a pussy about it... you are looking into substances that rip yr consciousness into other dimensions, but yr gonna balk at a little vomit?.. you mentioned shrooms earlier, that you might wait till they come around... they can bring a little nausea too... don't let that scare you... mushrooms & aya are two of the most beautiful experiences in the world... if i gotta puke for that, well, that's small change compared to the reward...




i understand bro, i guess you're right:)


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Re: what psychedelic should i try? [Re: liamfriar199]
    #18932302 - 10/04/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Must add, does anyone think my ADHD will effect any phsycedelic drugs? I am currently on no medication


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