Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Injection Grain Bag

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems
    #18907462 - 09/29/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So I wanted to grow some mushrooms and I figured that sclerotia would be the easiest thing for me to grow. Apparently, I must be retarded.

I made four jars with Rye Berries and did all the steps necessary. I put them in a dark place at around 21.8 degrees celsius and they started growing mycelium. They do have proper air circulation, but once they hit the part where all the water was sitting, they fucking stopped. I shook them up a second time and added enough water so that they are soaking in it at all times because apparently they won't fucking grow past it so hopefully they will grow in it.

How the hell do people's mycelium grow past the water? How do they keep their water from condensing in a big puddle on the bottom? Do they just have extremely high humidity? Thanks in advance.



--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePestile

Registered: 05/02/13
Posts: 875
Loc: Northern Europe
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907472 - 09/29/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What is that?! :eek:


--------------------


The Corbett Report
Open Source Intelligence News



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebudmanman
OTD Masterbater
Male


Registered: 02/07/07
Posts: 17,975
Loc: PNW
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907476 - 09/29/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now I have never grown this species but I can not help but wonder why any stagnant water was in the jar in the first place.


--------------------
Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: budmanman]
    #18907507 - 09/29/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

budmanman said:
Now I have never grown this species but I can not help but wonder why any stagnant water was in the jar in the first place.



:magicfingers:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
    #18907527 - 09/29/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone think that I should just dump out half the water and hope they just grow on all the dry rye?


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMaito
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 03/31/12
Posts: 534
Loc: Ert
Last seen: 4 months, 25 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
    #18907552 - 09/29/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.


--------------------
You can't spell 'healthcare' without 'thc'


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Maito]
    #18907566 - 09/29/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Maito said:
Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.




Did I forget to mention that the top part of the rye berries were dry and the rest were wet? Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePsilicon
Really Nice Guy


Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 7,057
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907581 - 09/29/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

IoRhinz said:Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.




Exactly so.  You want to heat up the berries in their soak water until boiling, then scoop or strain them out with a sieve.  At that point I like to lay mine out on a baking sheet or a bunch of aluminum foil on the counter and stir them until they're steam-dried.  They should be nice and dry, but moist and al dente when you put one into your mouth and chew.  At that point they're ready to be loaded into your jars for sterilization.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907589 - 09/29/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

IoRhinz said:
Quote:

Maito said:
Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.




Did I forget to mention that the top part of the rye berries were dry and the rest were wet? Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.




Follow stonesuns tek. He knows his stones http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948#13431948


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
    #18907750 - 09/29/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Follow stonesuns tek. He knows his stones http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948#13431948




Actually, this is the method that I used. After I had done all of the steps however, my mycelium wouldn't grow past the water, so I added water to it with a syringe until it was at this stage. So everything is still sterile, but my mycelium isn't growing enough. I've got no idea what to do and am thinking about just growing some lame cubensis...


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHazanko
Stranger

Registered: 09/21/13
Posts: 39
Last seen: 10 years, 26 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907886 - 09/29/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look great, they probably just need another year or two before they fully mature...


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSagescruffy
CH
Male


Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 2,011
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Hazanko]
    #18907911 - 09/29/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

why do you have foil on the lids? That might be the reason they stopped growing. You have to take the foil off or it will block gas exchange.


--------------------
Love.


Edited by Sagescruffy (09/29/13 05:02 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Hazanko]
    #18907927 - 09/29/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Hazanko said:
They look great, they probably just need another year or two before they fully mature...




Year or two?
:ohnowaitokay:

I'm just expecting the mycelium to colonize, which should take a max of 1 1/2 months. It has been about a month now.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18907950 - 09/29/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sagescruffy said:
:lol:

why do you have foil on the lids? That might be the reason they stopped growing. You have to take the foil off or it will block gas exchange.




I put the foil on after they stopped growing for higher humidity hoping the water would rise into the dry rye berries where the mycelium had stopped.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemaddchef
Vaginal escape artist
 User Gallery


Registered: 09/04/09
Posts: 5,602
Loc: Your mom's vag
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18907959 - 09/29/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good luck growing lame ass cubes lol. I guess this is another of Anne H's new teks. Hydroponic stones.


On a serious note, you really fucked this tek wayyyyyyy up. Reread the process, there is to be no standing water, added or not.


--------------------
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

All mushrooms are edible, but some only once.....                     

                                        Easier than cakes

I do science and shit.

:havesomescience:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: maddchef]
    #18907982 - 09/29/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

maddchef said:
Good luck growing lame ass cubes lol. I guess this is another of Anne H's new teks. Hydroponic stones.


On a serious note, you really fucked this tek wayyyyyyy up. Reread the process, there is to be no standing water, added or not.




I know that. I did the process correctly but there was standing water. I think if next time I don't use as much water and just have extremely high humidity, it will be fine.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSagescruffy
CH
Male


Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 2,011
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18908018 - 09/29/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You didn't do the tek correctly or the jars would not have stalled. Any number of factors could have led to those jars stalling. Too much water, presence of bacteria, lack of ge etc. If you thought it was a good idea to add water, you don't understand the process completely.


--------------------
Love.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePestile

Registered: 05/02/13
Posts: 875
Loc: Northern Europe
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18908060 - 09/29/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

IoRhinz said:
After I had done all of the steps however, my mycelium wouldn't grow past the water, so I added water to it with a syringe until it was at this stage. So everything is still sterile, but my mycelium isn't growing enough. I've got no idea what to do and am thinking about just growing some lame cubensis...




:awehigh:


--------------------


The Corbett Report
Open Source Intelligence News



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGhost4
Stranger


Registered: 12/28/12
Posts: 455
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Pestile]
    #18908106 - 09/29/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hehe, do you know how to grow "lame cubensis" if you can't prep grain? :awetongue:


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSockadin
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 21 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Ghost4]
    #18908232 - 09/29/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wait, this guy serisouly is asking for help. Lets start with a Q/A session.

At what point did you add 1/2 cup of water to each jar?


Why is there so much water in each jar?


Did you shake?(I know with truffles you don't shake, im just asking anyway)

Why is there so much water in the jar?

Have you considered that the problem might be the large amount of water in the jar?

I don't know if your getting this, but we want to know were you read, ADD F&*)(ng water to your jars.


Again, as stated above, if you have that much water in your jars you did not follow the tek.


But that is ok, because this is a learning process. You might be able to steal some of the water and make a LC for another try.


I really don't think this one is gonna make it. You could drain out all the water and see what happens.


Oh and take the damn foil off.



Good luck man.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sockadin]
    #18908324 - 09/29/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried,
Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)

Hence your double amount of water. :shrug:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Ghost4]
    #18909142 - 09/29/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sockadin said:
Wait, this guy serisouly is asking for help. Lets start with a Q/A session.

At what point did you add 1/2 cup of water to each jar?


Why is there so much water in each jar?


Did you shake?(I know with truffles you don't shake, im just asking anyway)

Why is there so much water in the jar?

Have you considered that the problem might be the large amount of water in the jar?

I don't know if your getting this, but we want to know were you read, ADD F&*)(ng water to your jars.


Again, as stated above, if you have that much water in your jars you did not follow the tek.


But that is ok, because this is a learning process. You might be able to steal some of the water and make a LC for another try.


I really don't think this one is gonna make it. You could drain out all the water and see what happens.


Oh and take the damn foil off.



Good luck man.




I added the water to the jars after drying the grains and before PCing them. I shook after the mycelium stopped (dumb idea, but I tried it). I have two more spore prints because I imagined that something would go wrong.
Thanks for the help.

Quote:

Ghost4 said:
hehe, do you know how to grow "lame cubensis" if you can't prep grain? :awetongue:




No, I don't. However, I don't want to try to grow them because I don't have enough room or time for growing mushrooms.


Edited by IoRhinz (06/16/17 09:39 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
    #18909276 - 09/29/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

spacechildo said:
I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried,
Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)

Hence your double amount of water. :shrug:




Is this the reason why it's all wrong? Thanks for actually helping instead of being an ass. I'll know now for next time. So when should I add the water?


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSagescruffy
CH
Male


Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 2,011
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18909374 - 09/29/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The grains actually finish hydrating in the pressure cooker. No extra water is needed after the soak/simmer. You just strain them and then load them up and pc


--------------------
Love.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSockadin
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 2 months, 21 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18909980 - 09/30/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, looks like you got your answer. Sorry I reread my last post, I did seem like an ass. 
I would still consider taking a LC off the jar if it is sterile you can just suck up 10CC's of the water with the mycelium swimming and you have something to start fresh with.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
    #18909996 - 09/30/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

IoRhinz said:
Quote:

spacechildo said:
I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried,
Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)

Hence your double amount of water. :shrug:




Is this the reason why it's all wrong? Thanks for actually helping instead of being an ass. I'll know now for next time. So when should I add the water?




YES, this is why it's all wrong :wink:
You added water to the grains twice, combining 2 different methods.

The old way was to measure how much water the grains would hold, add that to the jar of grains and pc.
The pc process with the heat and all will then draw the water into the grains.
This can give varying results, it's hard to know exactly how much water is needed.

What most people suggest is to prep the grains first, dry off their exterior surface, and then pc.
The prepping of the grains usually involves cleaning them first, then soaking them 4-24 hrs
(dependig on the tek and the grains), give them a quick boil/simmer, then dry in a colander/strain/mesh screen/towel etc :smile:

I hope that cleared things up a bit, don't be afraid to fail and try again :thumbup:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIoRhinz
Male


Registered: 04/19/13
Posts: 119
Last seen: 7 months, 13 days
Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
    #18936156 - 10/05/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks everyone for the info! I didn't expect that many people to care about somebody's everyday problems. I guess the community is another reason why the Shroomery's so great!

:fuckinawesome:


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore Injection Grain Bag


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Psilocybe tampanensis sclerotia --- ? Tlaloc 8,144 11 11/19/01 02:31 PM
by Doomhammer
* Psilocybe tampanensis feverdream 3,517 3 05/18/03 12:52 PM
by Olgualion
* Genesis of the PF Redspore Psilocybe motamanM 7,040 16 12/05/03 08:59 AM
by Anonymous
* Re: Sclerotia Formation CLuB99 6,588 17 03/31/00 12:13 PM
by Workman
* about sclerotia producing species... ph_plus 4,499 6 06/05/03 04:46 AM
by zeronio
* What's the deal with Sclerotia???
( 1 2 all )
too_many_weirdos 9,278 27 10/19/05 02:33 AM
by blackout
* Re: Making truffles Taz 4,488 18 04/13/01 11:05 AM
by tom
* Cloning sclerotia? Submob 7,769 9 12/20/03 07:00 PM
by OJK

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
2,738 topic views. 44 members, 221 guests and 14 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.012 seconds on 14 queries.