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IoRhinz



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Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems
#18907462 - 09/29/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I wanted to grow some mushrooms and I figured that sclerotia would be the easiest thing for me to grow. Apparently, I must be retarded.
I made four jars with Rye Berries and did all the steps necessary. I put them in a dark place at around 21.8 degrees celsius and they started growing mycelium. They do have proper air circulation, but once they hit the part where all the water was sitting, they fucking stopped. I shook them up a second time and added enough water so that they are soaking in it at all times because apparently they won't fucking grow past it so hopefully they will grow in it.
How the hell do people's mycelium grow past the water? How do they keep their water from condensing in a big puddle on the bottom? Do they just have extremely high humidity? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907472 - 09/29/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is that?!
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907476 - 09/29/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now I have never grown this species but I can not help but wonder why any stagnant water was in the jar in the first place.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: budmanman]
#18907507 - 09/29/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Now I have never grown this species but I can not help but wonder why any stagnant water was in the jar in the first place.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
#18907527 - 09/29/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does anyone think that I should just dump out half the water and hope they just grow on all the dry rye?
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
#18907552 - 09/29/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Maito]
#18907566 - 09/29/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maito said: Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.
Did I forget to mention that the top part of the rye berries were dry and the rest were wet? Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907581 - 09/29/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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IoRhinz said:Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.
Exactly so. You want to heat up the berries in their soak water until boiling, then scoop or strain them out with a sieve. At that point I like to lay mine out on a baking sheet or a bunch of aluminum foil on the counter and stir them until they're steam-dried. They should be nice and dry, but moist and al dente when you put one into your mouth and chew. At that point they're ready to be loaded into your jars for sterilization.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907589 - 09/29/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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IoRhinz said:
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Maito said: Start over. You don't want that much water in there, just enough so that the rye berries are hydrated.
Did I forget to mention that the top part of the rye berries were dry and the rest were wet? Are you trying to say that that I should just have the whole thing dry? Because I'm not going to start over when I don't even know how to start.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
#18907750 - 09/29/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Follow stonesuns tek. He knows his stones http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948#13431948
Actually, this is the method that I used. After I had done all of the steps however, my mycelium wouldn't grow past the water, so I added water to it with a syringe until it was at this stage. So everything is still sterile, but my mycelium isn't growing enough. I've got no idea what to do and am thinking about just growing some lame cubensis...
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907886 - 09/29/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look great, they probably just need another year or two before they fully mature...
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Hazanko]
#18907911 - 09/29/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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why do you have foil on the lids? That might be the reason they stopped growing. You have to take the foil off or it will block gas exchange.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Hazanko]
#18907927 - 09/29/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hazanko said: They look great, they probably just need another year or two before they fully mature...
Year or two?
I'm just expecting the mycelium to colonize, which should take a max of 1 1/2 months. It has been about a month now.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18907950 - 09/29/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sagescruffy said:

why do you have foil on the lids? That might be the reason they stopped growing. You have to take the foil off or it will block gas exchange.
I put the foil on after they stopped growing for higher humidity hoping the water would rise into the dry rye berries where the mycelium had stopped.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18907959 - 09/29/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good luck growing lame ass cubes lol. I guess this is another of Anne H's new teks. Hydroponic stones.
On a serious note, you really fucked this tek wayyyyyyy up. Reread the process, there is to be no standing water, added or not.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: maddchef]
#18907982 - 09/29/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Good luck growing lame ass cubes lol. I guess this is another of Anne H's new teks. Hydroponic stones.
On a serious note, you really fucked this tek wayyyyyyy up. Reread the process, there is to be no standing water, added or not.
I know that. I did the process correctly but there was standing water. I think if next time I don't use as much water and just have extremely high humidity, it will be fine.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18908018 - 09/29/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You didn't do the tek correctly or the jars would not have stalled. Any number of factors could have led to those jars stalling. Too much water, presence of bacteria, lack of ge etc. If you thought it was a good idea to add water, you don't understand the process completely.
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18908060 - 09/29/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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IoRhinz said: After I had done all of the steps however, my mycelium wouldn't grow past the water, so I added water to it with a syringe until it was at this stage. So everything is still sterile, but my mycelium isn't growing enough. I've got no idea what to do and am thinking about just growing some lame cubensis...
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Pestile]
#18908106 - 09/29/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hehe, do you know how to grow "lame cubensis" if you can't prep grain?
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Ghost4]
#18908232 - 09/29/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait, this guy serisouly is asking for help. Lets start with a Q/A session.
At what point did you add 1/2 cup of water to each jar?
Why is there so much water in each jar?
Did you shake?(I know with truffles you don't shake, im just asking anyway)
Why is there so much water in the jar?
Have you considered that the problem might be the large amount of water in the jar?
I don't know if your getting this, but we want to know were you read, ADD F&*)(ng water to your jars.
Again, as stated above, if you have that much water in your jars you did not follow the tek.
But that is ok, because this is a learning process. You might be able to steal some of the water and make a LC for another try.
I really don't think this one is gonna make it. You could drain out all the water and see what happens.
Oh and take the damn foil off.
Good luck man.
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