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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style
#18905058 - 09/28/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will be trying 5g for the first time, I have done 5g but it was in capsules and they were not full caps and stems just dust and tidbits. I have done 4g dried but they were not potent, I will be getting 5g of some decent magic and will sit in silent darkness like McKenna/Shaman style. I would like to ask about all of your experiences with the heroic dose of 5g dried and what you did and how you did it. They say some people have lost their ego and didn't notice, I may have, I may not, any insight on a true ego loss? I still have to say that the most intense experience I ever had was my first dose ever at 3.5 dried. All trips were comparable, but my first was the most fun.
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heratogwea



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18905130 - 09/28/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I experience "ego loss" its as if you forget you exist as a human. Getting lost in the experience and forgetting you have a body or are a living being. When I wake up or come back its a feeling of being reborn. There was one time I ate some rue and smoked dmt where I opened my eyes and stood up. I had no idea who I was what I was or where I was at. Was a little scary.
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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: heratogwea]
#18905170 - 09/28/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When was your last 5g? I remember when my friend turned into a part octopus thing with little entities flying around and my ashtray was as large as he was and everything just morphs into one another and become these creatures of color and substance that flows into my being, fucking miiiind fuck balls upside down on ceiling feeling.
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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18905187 - 09/28/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any tips to prepare for this shamanic trip other than set and setting?
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heratogwea



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18905267 - 09/29/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My last 5g was probably a couple years ago.
Just close your eyes. Lay on your bed with dim or no lights. Silence or headphones with your favorite music.
Did I mention CLOSE YOUR EYES
Edited by heratogwea (09/29/13 12:32 AM)
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RocKerWasH
The Wanderer



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18905281 - 09/29/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, when I dose large I try to be at peace with the world. I put on some music that sooths the soul, have no expectations and hope for the best. The part I remember from my last time was laying in my bed, in the dark and laughing like a lunatic. Hence my Sig.
-------------------- Laughing all alone in the dark!
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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: heratogwea]
#18923999 - 10/02/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why close your eyes in the dark? What kind of differences do you notice when closing your eyes in the dark? When I took 5gs I was in a dark room, but had a computer playing music and I had my eyes open, I saw entities floating about, have not tried this complete darkness and shutting the eyes, my eyes are almost always open.
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mutantmushroom
The Mutant



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18924029 - 10/03/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a simular experience but with 4-aco-dmt, a very similar compound to Psilocin. I had about 20mgs with 4 grams of syrian rue. 20mgs is equivalent to about 4 grams mush + the rue so twas intense. I had complete ego loss for 4 + hours laughing with my eyes watering and nose running. The experience was to say the least was amazing... I had another trip with 7 grams mush, the come up was extremely violent and I quickly retired to my bed in the dark. Later the night I became 1 with the universe.
-------------------- When you put the best effort you can into something, you’re bound to get something good out of it
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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: mutantmushroom]
#18924105 - 10/03/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Elaborate on a tough spot one can get into when taking a large dose like 7g. What is it that becomes so harsh or too intense to deal with. Never really heard anyone elaborate on a bad experience before.
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mutantmushroom
The Mutant



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18924152 - 10/03/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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WOW! I've never thought about how hard it is to explain the dark side. Imagine sitting somewhere where you feel very comfortable, you know your environment well. things slowly change to a very emotional state, every object has a personality almost. This is happening whilst the voices in your head continue to grow stronger and stronger to the point where all sanity is lost. You are thinking thoughts like. Woa what is going on! wait what did I take? why am i thinking about what is going on? why am i thinking of thinking? STOP THINKING! this is key, just let the experience flow. This is much easer in complete darkness, much less distraction. Once you achieve this you will feel the calmer than you have ever experienced. you will finally be at peace. I believe every trip has a dark side, strong or not it is always there. There is no light without the dark...
-------------------- When you put the best effort you can into something, you’re bound to get something good out of it
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Mysticism
LoLaChEaTz


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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: mutantmushroom]
#18928919 - 10/03/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the post! I have always loved that the whole experience is connected to the rest of it, you feel like a jelly of energy, I was blown away my first trip, I could not believe my eyes, like a group of people were all morphed together and moving into one being, I really noticed that things become one and that it the true mind fuck, that morph. When I take larger doses I seem to feel hypnotic, I always enjoy a 3.5g trip over a 4 or 5g trip, for some reason their is more mind warping in the 3.5 measure and higher doses become chaotic with no real mind fuck. I don't understand it, the larger doses also tend to feel shorter. Although I have not tried a high dose in silent darkness, will be interesting to see. I will report back after my first shamanic heroic dose!
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mutantmushroom
The Mutant



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Re: 5 Dried grams first try/Shamanic style [Re: Mysticism]
#18929088 - 10/04/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i feel like the 3.5 gram range is almost the perfect dose, if you go higher ego loss is guaranteed you don't judge your own experience therefor you don't care how long it is going on for. but at 3.5 grams you still have a slight bit of an idea of whats going on so your thoughts are much more scattered thus the heaver mind fuck. the dosage really can change the face of a trip into a completely different experience. thanks for sharing thoughts with me!
-------------------- When you put the best effort you can into something, you’re bound to get something good out of it
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