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Doing Mescaline for the first time today
    #18883860 - 09/24/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Waited 3 long months of no tripping so my tolerance would be no more and the day finally has come where I experiment with one of the lasts key hallucinogens on my list. I plan on taking a heroic dose so I can get the full-effects. Anybody have any pointers for me? What to expect? Should I take the capsule of mesc HCL at night or during the day?

Thanks guys


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18883874 - 09/24/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What's the dose? If you want to go to sleep tonight I would probably take it around noon.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18883903 - 09/24/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I will be consuming 900mg mescaline HCL OR I could eat 4 tabs of Yin/Yang blotter that contains 120ug tested and laid professionally. But I already made my decision.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18883967 - 09/24/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

DONT DO THAT!

First off, Mescaline is the Rolls Royce of psychedelics, its the very best one there is, and you will have an eternity to find out :smile:

Dont take 900mg.

Mescaline has relatively high vasoconstiction and similar effects, and it may cause you to vomit. All that is drastically worsened by taking a towering dose.

Huxley typically took 250-500mg mescaline sulfate, which is equivalent to about 200-400mg Mescaline hydrochloride.

Fools go rushing in, especially with exceeding the maximum common dosage of a drug with side effects.

I see no reason to exceed 400mg M HCl if the Mescaline is pure.

Mescaline is the BEST psychedelic. Dont mess it up by taking so much that you barf it up right away or you get vasoconstriction issues.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Asante]
    #18883990 - 09/24/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow im very glad I read your posts Wiccan before diving in. My mindset was "im experienced and want to have an all-out experience so I need a heroic dose" but thinking about what you said, it makes perfect sense that even 700mg would be a little overkill.

I want to take atleast 500mg is that ok wiccan? Damn, mescaline really is better than acid and mushrooms? Now im really excited. Bit I had heard that the mesc HCL which I have is less of an experience than cactus. Is this true? A little more details of what I should expect would be great wiccan and others.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18884020 - 09/24/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you're bent on 500mg, then sure. I believe I read some place that the reported "maximum safe dose" was in the order of 800mg, but it was unspecified as to why.

If you have 900mg, how about splitting your stash right down the middle so you'll have 2 experiences of 450mg to look forward to? If about 3 hours into it you feel underwhelmed you can then still decide to add the second quantity. Chances are you won't be underwhelmed though!

Most people who have ample experience with Mescaline and LSD prefer Mescaline.

I doint know if you read The Doors Of Perception?  Almost all that stuff happened to me on my first mesc trip. Mescaline stretches time like no other psychedelic, your 12 hour trip will last days experientally for you or even, like with this conservative politician, weeks:




Erowid has this to say:

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Oral Mescaline HCl Dosages
Threshold 100 mg
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 300 mg
Strong 300 - 500 mg
Heavy 500 - 700 mg

Onset : 45 - 60 minutes
Peak : T + 4 hours
Duration : 4 - 8 hours
Normal After Effects : 2 - 4 hours




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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Asante]
    #18884050 - 09/24/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I suggest day time dosing... Just me but I like mesc in the day light

How do you know you have 900 mg?


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: HarryL]
    #18884092 - 09/24/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I asked my guy to send me 2 heroic doses according to erowid and when I asked him the exact he said 900mg in each capsule. I have a MG scale so I will know for sure when I get it, which will be in about 3 hours.

That's what I was thinking, wiccan. Just split the doses up. I have the book doors of perception and im actually in the middle of reading it but im reading 4 others so im only on page 30 or so. I hear its the book you kind of need to read. Im huge into some of David icke, McKenna, Robert A Wilson at the moment. I just got done reading Huxleys "Perennial philosophy" when I was in Greece..and oh man it was great. Easy to understand and very well-laid out. Awesome book.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18901691 - 09/28/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

...did you ever take it? hopefully it was actually pure mescaline....


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18901731 - 09/28/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually I decided not too for numerous reasons. Im diving in in about 3 days. Will update ASAP.

And yes theres a 98% chance its real mescaline HCL. I have a mg scale so I am set. Im going to take 450-500 MG.

I really want to test out my yin/yang blotters but that time will come.

Should I smoke some deems on the mesc? My favorite is mushies+deems so should I expect something similar?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18901742 - 09/28/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

shrooms are indeed much more similar to dmt. They have a vaguely similar background feeling. Cactus does not, it's more sunny compassionate and loving. And speedy :laugh:


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18901746 - 09/28/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's what makes me curious :tongue:

Im guessing it wont be as great seeing as how LSD+DMT didn't match up to it. I mean it was great, but it wasn't no mushrooms+DMT combo


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18901756 - 09/28/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cactus is what I actually ate but yeah it's a different feeling than mushrooms. It's much better..but then I think I might be a PEA guy, not sure. Dmt and mushrooms, the only tryptamines I've done, seem a little bizarre for my taste lol


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We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18904156 - 09/28/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had 350mg mescaline HCL the other week and it was a perfect dose for me. I got REALLY nauseated and threw up within 15 minutes of taking the capsule, but still got strong effects, so if that happens to you don't redose immediately, ha! I actually prefer the HCL to cactus surprisingly, I felt like it was less sedating.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Acidreamer]
    #18904178 - 09/28/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

cactus/mescaline feels much more like a euphoric LSD trip at higher doses.  I'd say take 450ug that should blow you out of the water.  14 of bridgessi ive had colors running out of walls and stuff like that, that I usually associate with acid.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Acidreamer]
    #18904185 - 09/28/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Only some cactus is at all sedating or dreamy. Some individual cuttings were nothing but pure mental and physical simulation and trippiness for me. Usually bridgesii is the more sedating kind


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Asante]
    #18904662 - 09/28/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wiccan, why do you feel mescaline is the best psychedelic?

Not disagreeing, I've not yet had experience with it. Just curious.


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18904958 - 09/28/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
Only some cactus is at all sedating or dreamy. Some individual cuttings were nothing but pure mental and physical simulation and trippiness for me. Usually bridgesii is the more sedating kind




Yeah I agree, I usually dose bridgesii so that's what I'm basing my opinion off of. I should try peruvianus


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: Acidreamer]
    #18905893 - 09/29/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ive got access to some bridgesii, san pedro and peruvian torch mixed syrup... wonder what it will feel like with the three combined


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Re: Doing Mescaline for the first time today [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #18905948 - 09/29/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Im reading that mescaline is a light trip and I shouldn't expect a "blow-your-mind" high mushroom-like dose. That's what im looking for seeing as how I have been losing motivation and started to get edgy and cranky at little things. Im just starting to forget "the truth" if you will. You guys know what im trying to say, I hope. I NEED that "change your whole perspective" type trip


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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