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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18903921 - 09/28/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah man :frown: i was thinking about it then i only took one big dose, but the people who have been on it for years have to suffer so much more pain than what i got. not worth it imo :shrug:


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18903979 - 09/28/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yeah man :frown: i was thinking about it then i only took one big dose, but the people who have been on it for years have to suffer so much more pain than what i got. not worth it imo :shrug:




Yet you're still willing to do heroin again.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18904005 - 09/28/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've never had a drug problem.  I've only had a lack of drugs problem.  :syringe:

Heroin does pose a unique philosophical problem IMO, though.  I do not believe in an objective meaning of life--as individual humans each of us is free to choose our own subjective meaning or purpose, I believe.  For me, I don't see anything more fundamental or motivating than the pursuit of pleasure.  The pure feeling of bliss is its own reward; an inherently worthwhile pursuit that rationalizes its own desirability.  And speaking from experience taken from 4+ years of IV heroin use and abuse, pleasure as its own reward can provide a feeling of satisfaction and purpose that few other pursuits can in comparison.  No longer do you have to worry about bills, family relationships, dying grass on your lawn, or your own impending mortality.  Upon accepting that tempting serpent's first blissful pin-prick of pharmacological seduction, your list of worries, cares and desires will simplify itself down from its original state of psychological morass and a myriad stresses to but one item: experiencing pleasure.  :freud:

And in a weird, paradoxical way it does make one's life easier if you're able to trade away all the things that depress you, make you angry, fearful, worried, or want to tear your hair out.  Before heroin, sure, I had money, I had a proud family, I had the the ability to refrain from exogenous opioids for longer than four to six hours.  But I had no sense of purpose, no ultimate reason for my existence.  After heroin, I had that.  Opiates can give you meaning in an uncaring world of meaninglessness, and that's not even mentioning the sheer pleasure involved.  But this gift still comes at a price....

tl;dr shooting heroin will give meaning and fulfillment to your life  :bashful:


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: deCypher]
    #18904017 - 09/28/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well, apparently he already did that, decypher, so... i guess he's fulfilled?


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: deCypher]
    #18904018 - 09/28/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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tl;dr shooting heroin will give meaning and fulfillment to your life



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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: deCypher]
    #18904040 - 09/28/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I've never had a drug problem.  I've only had a lack of drugs problem.  :syringe:

Heroin does pose a unique philosophical problem IMO, though.  I do not believe in an objective meaning of life--as individual humans each of us is free to choose our own subjective meaning or purpose, I believe.  For me, I don't see anything more fundamental or motivating than the pursuit of pleasure.  The pure feeling of bliss is its own reward; an inherently worthwhile pursuit that rationalizes its own desirability.  And speaking from experience taken from 4+ years of IV heroin use and abuse, pleasure as its own reward can provide a feeling of satisfaction and purpose that few other pursuits can in comparison.  No longer do you have to worry about bills, family relationships, dying grass on your lawn, or your own impending mortality.  Upon accepting that tempting serpent's first blissful pin-prick of pharmacological seduction, your list of worries, cares and desires will simplify itself down from its original state of psychological morass and a myriad stresses to but one item: experiencing pleasure.  :freud:

And in a weird, paradoxical way it does make one's life easier if you're able to trade away all the things that depress you, make you angry, fearful, worried, or want to tear your hair out.  Before heroin, sure, I had money, I had a proud family, I had the the ability to refrain from exogenous opioids for longer than four to six hours.  But I had no sense of purpose, no ultimate reason for my existence.  After heroin, I had that.  Opiates can give you meaning in an uncaring world of meaninglessness, and that's not even mentioning the sheer pleasure involved.  But this gift still comes at a price....

tl;dr shooting heroin will give meaning and fulfillment to your life  :bashful:




You forgot to mention the part about never being able to feel as amazing as a good shot.

Once you've fully experienced the bliss of IV dope, nothing in life will approach making you that happy. Well, except a speedball.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: deCypher]
    #18904048 - 09/28/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Brilliant response,

nonetheless :facepalm:


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18904055 - 09/28/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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k3nnyw said:
yeah man :frown: i was thinking about it then i only took one big dose, but the people who have been on it for years have to suffer so much more pain than what i got. not worth it imo :shrug:




Yet you're still willing to do heroin again.



life has its ups and downs. you can't deny that. if you only want ups, you're gonna be disappointed as fuck or die from drug abuse.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18904057 - 09/28/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

this thread tells us a lot about different types of heroin users :smile:

very educational


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18904063 - 09/28/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:suddendisapproval:


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18904072 - 09/28/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that Edie Sedgwick?


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18904089 - 09/28/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i think it might be.

damn she is smokin'.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18904100 - 09/28/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i think it might be.

damn she is smokin'.





She was. I have a friend just like her, similiar life story too.

Too bad for Edie, she seemed like a cool young woman. Used up and spat out by warhol though.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18904112 - 09/28/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ok, reading time. Warhol, didn't he like drug celebs, promise fame or some shit, and wore them down to point of being druggie sex slaves, or something?


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18904143 - 09/28/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ok, reading time. Warhol, didn't he like drug celebs, promise fame or some shit, and wore them down to point of being druggie sex slaves, or something?





For the most part, and he would rarely pay his actors.

Though she was a troubled young girl far before she met him. Sexually abused as a child, her whole family was really messed up.

She was involved with bob dylan for a while too, The movie factory girl is about her. Although not entirely accurate, it is a good watch.

But just one of those free spirited young girls, wouldnt purposely hurt a soul, but ends up getting used by everyone around her.

I would have been good to her. :heart:


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18904151 - 09/28/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the 70's made her worse for wear, like her family. that sucks though. Warhol sounds like scum.

also, if she was with Bob Dylan then she's been a drug user too. oh well.

damn, she looks fine though. i am jealous of the brand of women they had back then.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18904161 - 09/28/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think Heroin would make a great LAST RESORT suicide drug. Like say you were a soldier behind enemy lines and you were captured. Knowing their was absolutely no way out and the knowledge in your head was going to be made known. Hell, a lil Heroin on your way out. Definitely not the worst way ta kick the bucket.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #18904171 - 09/28/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think Heroin would make a great LAST RESORT suicide drug. Like say you were a soldier behind enemy lines and you were captured. Knowing their was absolutely no way out and the knowledge in your head was going to be made known. Hell, a lil Heroin on your way out. Definitely not the worst way ta kick the bucket.





I'm putting together a suicide kit, in case I need it. I'm thinking a few points of heroin, gravol(so I dont vomit), benzo's and boooze.

@akira


She was an IV drug user, coke, dope and meth, the meth was the biggest one.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #18904176 - 09/28/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no man thats totally hedonist. we should be flooded with LSD or DMT when we die so we understand how everything went down in our lives.


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Re: first time nodding on heroin, what good ideas shuold i do with my time? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18904193 - 09/28/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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@akira


She was an IV drug user, coke, dope and meth, the meth was the biggest one.




:nonono: damn. fuckers just pumped her up. both use of the metaphor are appropriate here. :sadyes:


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