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tell him this, Patlal, that humans are on a higher vibrational plane, then other animals, and that we are spiritually more attuned to the higher power. thusly we have been able to evolve beyond the carnal state of other animals.
bing bang boom.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18903678 - 09/28/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: tell him this, Patlal, that humans are on a higher vibrational plane, then other animals, and that we are spiritually more attuned to the higher power. thusly we have been able to evolve beyond the carnal state of other animals.
bing bang boom.
I like that. But how do you know that we're on a higher vibrational plane than other animals?
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: mr sniffles]
#18903687 - 09/28/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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k3nnyw said: give your muslim friend some lsd
That would only reinforce his belief in god.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Synthe]
#18903693 - 09/28/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: We're animals. We're the greatest, most intellectually advanced animals on this planet, on this solar system, in a multi-million light-year radius even.
That claim is, for now, completely unfounded.
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akira_akuma
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akira_akuma said: tell him this, Patlal, that humans are on a higher vibrational plane, then other animals, and that we are spiritually more attuned to the higher power. thusly we have been able to evolve beyond the carnal state of other animals.
bing bang boom.
I like that. But how do you know that we're on a higher vibrational plane than other animals?
because we're closer to God. we have the intellect and the emotional discretion to attain a higher frequency, basically, by being Human. by being Humans we can understand the infinite and thusly can understand the significance of the unknown and how to interpret that spaceless. thoughts and mind. so and so forth.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18903704 - 09/28/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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We can contemplate the infinite but understand...no I don't think we ever will.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: robbyberto]
#18903724 - 09/28/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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some people can. not everybody. Jesus, for example... and Buddah. they could, potentially, according to what they innately brought to the table. they dedicated their lives to understanding the infinite, and i believe they did. with awareness of the infinite you can understand it, it's just limitless, so to define it is impossible. you can only read it... like a book.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18903819 - 09/28/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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akira_akuma said: tell him this, Patlal, that humans are on a higher vibrational plane, then other animals, and that we are spiritually more attuned to the higher power. thusly we have been able to evolve beyond the carnal state of other animals.
bing bang boom.
I like that. But how do you know that we're on a higher vibrational plane than other animals?
because we're closer to God. we have the intellect and the emotional discretion to attain a higher frequency, basically, by being Human. by being Humans we can understand the infinite and thusly can understand the significance of the unknown and how to interpret that spaceless. thoughts and mind. so and so forth.
You have no evidence for anything that you just stated, it's pure speculation.
How do you know what dolphins understand?
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: qman]
#18903823 - 09/28/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm telling a person what to tell a religious nut. dude.
personally, considering this is just conjecture and is irrelevant to anything... i find that Animals have an even higher connection to a "higher power", then Humans. Humans just simply get better treatment, because we are smarter. no duh, right? plus, we can form a lexicon for language and survive on top of the food chain... this means that Animals MAY have exactly the same level of interconnectivity or maybe even more! though, nobody can have proof for that, because hello, they can't talk to us.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#18903856 - 09/28/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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His friend is an idiot, and needs to be educated beyond a 2nd grade understanding of biology.
Humans eat, sleep, shit, piss, fuck, and die just like every other animal that exists, what makes his dumb friend think his species is different? The Koran.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: qman]
#18903864 - 09/28/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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that and all the talk about spirituality. it's easy to compare spirituality to nature, though it's definitely a dichotomy. nature is that which is independent. the spiritual is that which is dependent, on nature, first and foremost.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Synthe] 1
#18903872 - 09/28/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synthe said: We're animals. We're the greatest, most intellectually advanced animals on this planet, on this solar system, in a multi-million light-year radius even.
Intellect is just an operating system and about the only one we have direct experience with in terms of consciousness on this planet. This is like saying I am the greatest most advanced person in my neighborhood because I run Windows 7 on my computer, even though I am not sure what other people run or what the experience of it is or how any of it really works.
Look at the things we can observe some sea life doing, like dolphins and all the wacky, playful, ingenious shit they do. Have you ever seen footage of a morphing octopus? Just because their intelligence isn't seated in their frontal lobe and is expressed in different ways doesn't mean it's somehow less spectacular or inferior to our human machinations. Insects, birds, various sea life, many other species are brilliant instrumentalists in their medium so they could be said to use art in essentially the same ways we do. Look at how spiders and bees and other insects have an innate mastery of geometry and construction. And they're not helpless for years before they can get to it.
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But without our intellect, we'd be nothing.
An operating system is nothing without an interface. Without our manual dexterity our intellect would be nothing.
All creatures operate in a different spectrum, and we have no idea what consciousness is aside from our own tiny sliver of it, so I'd say it's profoundly stupid to profess that the things we do are somehow more advanced or "greater" than other forms of life. That said, we do operate in the human sphere so for us, what humans do is the most important out of all species(even though bacteria in our gut keeps up functioning, etc) and we do find ourselves in a position of being forced to conquer or exploit other forms of life to some extent to survive.
We should humbly accept our ignorance about how other forms of intelligence operate(while always striving to better understand it) and do our best to spend our time with as much ingenuity as possible doing things that will benefit all forms of life. And even though all consciousness seems to be linked I think we are frankly too stupid at this point to use any understanding of that to anyone's advantage, so just aim to contribute something to your fellow man(either by mundane, everyday or more creative means) if nothing else.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Patlal] 1
#18903879 - 09/28/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anybody who says no is FUCKING RETARDED.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Patlal]
#18903891 - 09/28/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Obviously we are animals biologically, the evidence of this is overwhelming. Some people do use the word "animal" to refer exclusively to animals other than humans. That's just a convention of language though, it has nothing to do with biological distinctions.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: psi]
#18903900 - 09/28/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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these confusions about definition are ultimately hilarious, though. i say we all keep being ignorant to the fact that our biological imperatives are the same as all other live forms, or in some cases, completely dependent on them.
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Patlal]
#18903912 - 09/28/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If we're not animals then what are we?
I get where he's coming from, but even from a religious perspective, aren't we animals that are spiritually superior to other animals (or however he wants to put it), but ultimately still animals? I don't know what else we could possibly be called.
Maybe he didn't think it through and articulate his thoughts on the matter properly before he started debating it. Maybe the reason you stated all the scientific facts for him but he still wouldn't admit he's wrong is because he's too embarrassed or stubborn to. 
Or maybe he's truly that retarded. If he genuinely believes we're not of the animal kingdom, what would he call us, instead?
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Re: Are human beings animals? [Re: Patlal] 1
#18903920 - 09/28/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, we're all just a bunch of really smart but funny looking monkeys.
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Into The Woods said: If we're not animals then what are we?
I get where he's coming from, but even from a religious perspective, aren't we animals that are spiritually superior to other animals (or however he wants to put it), but ultimately still animals? I don't know what else we could possibly be called.
Maybe he didn't think it through and articulate his thoughts on the matter properly before he started debating it. Maybe the reason you stated all the scientific facts for him but he still wouldn't admit he's wrong is because he's too embarrassed or stubborn to. 
Or maybe he's truly that retarded. If he genuinely believes we're not of the animal kingdom, what would he call us, instead?
nothing. he's an idiot.
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#18904003 - 09/28/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma
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the study of religion. the study of something out of nothing. fuck science! we want something out of nothing, it's easier that way!
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