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Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies
    #18902301 - 09/28/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

between the shores of Zero and Infinity. With our minds we think of them as two separate oceans...


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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: WScott]
    #18902400 - 09/28/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: WScott]
    #18903618 - 09/28/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"The great religions are the ships,
Poets the life boats,every sane person
I know has jumped overboard." ~ Hafiz


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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: WScott] * 1
    #18904868 - 09/28/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The most important thing is to find out what's the most important thing to you. Everything around me is evidence of what I thought was important. I've paid to know what I really think.


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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: Middleman]
    #18906155 - 09/29/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Rev. Morton said:
The most important thing is to find out what's the most important thing to you. Everything around me is evidence of what I thought was important. I've paid to know what I really think.



I'm going to let these age a little.


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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: falcon]
    #18919080 - 10/01/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They are the same entity, but different by our reckoning, yes. I agree. 1 is not the same as first. Even if the difference is superficial it is applied and therefore has meaning.


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Re: Dualistic perception and the experience of reality is a land that lies [Re: WScott]
    #18922354 - 10/02/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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WScott said:
between the shores of Zero and Infinity. With our minds we think of them as two separate oceans...



I love the title of your post....it reminds me of something I wrote when I was younger and took DXM:

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Detached, yet insufferably in the moment- But where is this coming from? This feeling of duality[....] continues to crop up in my daily experiences. Is this purely the influence of my western interpretation of eastern belief/thought, as was related to me through Mr Alan Watts?

No. As this is a phenomenon (the phenomenon being the perception of dichotomies, dualities, thought confined in black and white, "you can't have one without the other", etc.) that occurs very often (or seems to) and from so many different sources. The idea comes back to my mind, reminding me once again of its insistence in being known, not merely as a religious idea or specific outlook or belief, but (as I fear) a natural tendency and limitation to be found within thought itself. The world is not "yin-yang" in itself, as I have previously believed, but rather, it is in our minds, the only way to make sense out of it. So much simplification is involved. What I find particularly vulgar is when one subscribes to a dichotomy; fully or at least partially aware that the two ostensibly "opposite" sides of whatever reality one is concerned with at the time are in fact both necessary components of the original dichotomy (good vs evil, conscious attention vs habit, love vs hate, etc) but yet still chooses to cheerlead for one side only, or to ignore the necessity, value, or even the reality of the other side which makes the preferred side even possible.

Of course, all of this is clearly on a "theoretical" level, which is in fact the real point (or a deeper point beyond the "facts" of duality) at which I'm aiming. Namely that the existence of all forms/sub-forms of duality is a subjective perception and limitation in man, not a thing "true-in-itself", but a simplification, a naievete, a way of categorizing reality, classifying it as a necessary way of understanding it even on the most shallow of levels.

But what of perception? Is not all perception this "shallow, subjective simplification"? What separates    duality from any other aspect of human perception?




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