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Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret
#18902090 - 09/28/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret Published 2013/08/30 18:03:49

Taipei, Aug. 30 (CNA) Scientists at Academia Sinica have cracked the mystery of how the polysaccharides in the reishi mushroom act to activate the human immune system and fight against cancer, and have shared their discovery with the world.
A research team headed by Academia Sinica President Chi-Huey Wong and assistant research fellow Wu Chung-yi has proven that a crude extract of fucose-containing polysaccharides from reishi mushrooms, named F3, can induce antibodies to recognize tumor-associated carbohydrate antigens on cancer cells and kill them.
According to Academia Sinica, Taiwan's top academic research institute, the research on reishi polysaccharides' cancer-fighting effects was started by a group headed by National Yang-Ming University professor Hsu Hsieh-yeh, which injected F3 into mice with lung cancer and discovered that the extract could slow tumor growth, although it did not know how the mechanism works.
Thanks to a glycan array -- a sample-screening method -- designed by the Wong-Wu team, it was found that the sera from mice immunized with F3 contain the antibodies that recognize the tumor antigens known as Globo H, as well as related structures.
Moreover, the research team also found that inhibition of tumor growth is directly related to the amount of these types of antibodies. In other words, the larger the amount of Globo H-recognizing anitibodies, the smaller the tumor, Academia Sinica said.
With the finding, the team separated F3 into a fucose-enriched fraction called FMS for immunization and found that FMS can induce even more anti-Globo H antibodies and thus, more effectively inhibit tumor growth.
The study further demonstrated that the fucose residue is the key to the reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting ability, proven by the finding that the cancer-fighting activity was reduced dramatically when the fucose residue was removed.
With assistance from other research teams, the effective structures of the fucose-containing saccharides were elucidated. This research thereafter established the molecular mechanism of reishi polysaccharides with regard to their cancer-fighting activity, the institute said.
The research results were published in the current issue of the U.S.'s Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) journal, under the title: "Immunization of fucose-containing polysaccharides from reishi mushroom induces antibodies to tumor-associated Globo H-series epitopes."
The first authors of the paper are named as Liao Shih-fen, a PhD student at the Institute of Biochemical Sciences of National Taiwan University, and Liang Chi-hui, who is conducting post-doctoral research at the Genomics Research Center of Academia Sinica.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: snakebite]
#18905569 - 09/29/13 02:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now I can tell my aunt to go suck it! We got into an argument about the benefits of TT's and Reishi on fighting cancer. Her reply to me suggesting my other aunt looking into adding a regiment to my cousin's leukemia treatment was, I quote; "Dangerous to dabble in home remedies for anyone, and especially when there are real doctors treating a diagnosed illness successfully. Maybe when you are Mad Max after the end of civilization, this information will come in handy". I'll be sending her a link to the paper now
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: ghiajake]
#18905813 - 09/29/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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very nice to read.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18906263 - 09/29/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that Reishi and Trametes Versicolor -- and a number of other mushrooms as well -- are very, very potent anti-cancer tools. We are unlikely to hear much about this in the USA, however, because no one can patent it or make any money off it. And that is pretty sad. Yet they will spend billions researching and trialing manmade anticancer drugs in the hopes of making large profits. Remember: Profit is the goal, not necessarily cure. Thanks for posting this.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: Queen of Kings]
#18906345 - 09/29/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Queen of Kings said: I think that Reishi and Trametes Versicolor -- and a number of other mushrooms as well -- are very, very potent anti-cancer tools. We are unlikely to hear much about this in the USA, however, because no one can patent it or make any money off it. And that is pretty sad. Yet they will spend billions researching and trialing manmade anticancer drugs in the hopes of making large profits. Remember: Profit is the goal, not necessarily cure. Thanks for posting this.
The nail was hit squarely on the head there. I believe, while billions/year are spent on research for a cure, any definitive cure/vaccine for cancer would be squashed by big Pharma. Too much is spent today on treatment to allow a cure. Look at all those oncology jobs that would be lost, chemo drugs and radiation centers that would no longer be needed, even whole institutions dedicated to treatment that would close.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: OICU812]
#18907758 - 09/29/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the share snakebite! I'm currently watching your thread (your set up is amazing!), I'm awaiting the massive wall of reishi to form 
I'm also receiving a Reishi culture from a fellow shroomerite, I'm really excited to work with this strain!
But I too agree with everyone above me, the cure doesn't matter, only the profits. Not in my book though, I want to try and help those who I can with these awesome fungi!
Edited by fatchillin (09/29/13 04:23 PM)
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: fatchillin]
#18908773 - 09/29/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why it's best to just spread the word as much as possible, and supply those interested with this wonderfully beautiful medicine. To hell with the Western Medicine Conglomerate, it's up to the "underground" to improve life. Fitting analog to fungal cures.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: ghiajake]
#18908972 - 09/29/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ghiajake said: That's why it's best to just spread the word as much as possible, and supply those interested with this wonderfully beautiful medicine. To hell with the Western Medicine Conglomerate, it's up to the "underground" to improve life. Fitting analog to fungal cures. 
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: skullphuxxx]
#18911791 - 09/30/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with you all that it's nice to read some new research on Reishi. I constantly looking at the internet to find a new and modern research on Reishi, but it is always done from Asian regions. I'm sure modern Europe and America have good scientific institutes but have not found some recent research and new results for Reishi. Why this is so, it is not clear to me.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: snakebite]
#18913595 - 09/30/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, actually i am a bit sceptical when this kind of scientific news comes from a country that produces the product. they have an interest in what the results will be. so i would like to see some western country's investigate the matter. (not stating i don't beleive the article, just saying that when people stop having doubt in science, it becomes a religion.)
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18913612 - 09/30/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wanting more evidence in not a bad thing at all.
Tis what makes Science tick.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: snakebite]
#18913620 - 09/30/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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snakebite said: Why this is so, it is not clear to me.
Searching I find no western research on the subject.
It is really strange. Anyone have anything from the western world about Reishi that is from scientific descent?
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: Ganzig]
#18913942 - 09/30/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doubt you'll be able to find any. It is not in the Western Medicine Conglomerate's best interests to prove a natural remedy can have better results than what they have accomplished with billions of dollars and over half a century's worth of research.
To forrest: I see your point about here:
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well, actually i am a bit sceptical when this kind of scientific news comes from a country that produces the product. they have an interest in what the results will be.
Not being a smart ass or anything, but if it was a Western Civilization country testing a product they produced (let's say the America or the UK), would the be more trustworthy? People truly believe that poisoning every cell in your body with chemo is the best way to treat cancer, simply because the Western Medical Conglomerate says so. Despite the horror that those receiving chemo treatments endure, and the myriad of extremely expensive pharmaceuticals that these poison pushers use to combat the horrible side effect of their "cures". Most people won't even consider a completely healthy treatment additive (reishi, TTs, etc) simply because the pill pushers say "there is no proof...blah, blah, blah". Not at all an attack on your skepticism, which everyone should have, but I feel that people should be more skeptic of the money-hungry WMC than healthy natural remedies.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: ghiajake]
#18913985 - 10/01/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes of course I'm sceptical of western research as well. It's logical that when someone pays big bucks to fund research, they probably have a financial interest in the outcome. That's why it's logical only research on reishi is done in country's where it's part of culture and industry.
I'm also very sceptical on the alternative health scene. If I would be a con man, I know where I would set up business. There where they ask less for scientific proof and are more influenced by good stories that play on someone's emotions and paranoia about regular treatment. That said, I definitely don't take side for regular or alternative treatment.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18913998 - 10/01/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fair enough.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: ghiajake]
#18914919 - 10/01/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ghiajake said:
... Not being a smart ass or anything, but if it was a Western Civilization country testing a product they produced (let's say the America or the UK), would the be more trustworthy? People truly believe that poisoning every cell in your body with chemo is the best way to treat cancer, simply because the Western Medical Conglomerate says so. Despite the horror that those receiving chemo treatments endure, and the myriad of extremely expensive pharmaceuticals that these poison pushers use to combat the horrible side effect of their "cures". Most people won't even consider a completely healthy treatment additive (reishi, TTs, etc) simply because the pill pushers say "there is no proof...blah, blah, blah". Not at all an attack on your skepticism, which everyone should have, but I feel that people should be more skeptic of the money-hungry WMC than healthy natural remedies.
Excellent comment. I think your expression is very much true. I personally have proof. My father had bladder cancer. Since diagnosis to surgery he drank Reishi tea 3 times a day it was a period of 5 months. 1. Bleeding when urinating has stopped 3 days after taking Reishi tea. Second, Tumor size was 1 inch, and after 5 months remained the same size. 3rd All the time my father felt great before and after surgery. 4th And most importantly he no longer intimidated Reishi tea ever. For 6 months after surgery he is in excellent condition, vital, physical work is not a problem for him. I saw evidence that Reishi helps. Cancer is inherited. It is likely that some of my father's family will suffer from a similar disease. Drinking Reishi tea certainly would help preventively tumor not happen. I believe in the healing properties of Reishi and will continue to regularly drink one cup a day.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: snakebite]
#18915135 - 10/01/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's great about your father. in some cases it is a genetic predisposition where people have more chance of getting cancer, but in a lot of cases it is also just environment (carcinogens, uv etc) and plain bad luck, mutations happen all the time. but a case study (like your father), you can't call proof, right? i mean, you can't say ''let's base a rule on one or a few incidents''. i'm saying this because it is normal behaviour to forget about the other dozen people who drank reishi and did die of the disease. and ofcourse there are too many variables in life. beacuse that kind of shit now people in china sell baby's as medicine, because some people believe that ground up dried baby skin kan give you youth... my father has cancer and i think reishi can help, so i'm gonna cultivate it. but i try to stay realistic about my assumptions.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18915225 - 10/01/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hope and faith are more powerful than scientific theories (though i am fond of scientific data )
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: Aleon]
#18915248 - 10/01/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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more powerfull in stirring up a mob to kill people who have hope and faith in something else?
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18915254 - 10/01/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18915414 - 10/01/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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forrest said: I'm also very sceptical on the alternative health scene. If I would be a con man, I know where I would set up business. There where they ask less for scientific proof and are more influenced by good stories that play on someone's emotions and paranoia about regular treatment. That said, I definitely don't take side for regular or alternative treatment.
It's not that anyone "asks less for scientific proof". It's that we don't have the millions of dollars it cost to get it.
It's not that anyone is "more influenced" by stories that play on emotions, it's that they're all we have, when we live in a country where nobody WITH the money is going to spend it to find an actual cure when they MAKE all that money on the treatment.
I'm sure anyone in the alternative health scene would love to have "alternative health" products like reishi extracts given the same scientific treatment and funding we give prescription drugs. I mean, who here wouldn't want that? 
It's just not going to happen in the good ol' US of A for reasons already stated. 
I apologize if I come off like a douche, I just get irritated when people portray the "alternative" health movement as gullible and easily conned, when the average "mainstream" American has been getting conned for decades with poorly researched (accidentally or intentionally), dangerous products being sold as cures and treatments. I guess it's just me but I'm more skeptical of what my doctor prescribes me than a natural remedy I've researched myself that's been used for centuries by other cultures.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: Forrester]
#18915735 - 10/01/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's allright
i allso rather treat myself with MAOI or whatever else i grow or extract then what i would get from the doctor.
and i think i get a bit too fanatic about the subject. i think we both push off against what we were being brought up in. i was brought up with a religion from india (with a guru and stuff) and alternative medicine styles, and to my perception a lot of behavior that wasn't right (just as not-right as the regular medicine bullshit). so sorry also if i reacted too strongly.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18916378 - 10/01/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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forrest said: that's allright
... i was brought up with a religion from india (with a guru and stuff) and alternative medicine styles, and to my perception a lot of behavior that wasn't right (just as not-right as the regular medicine bullshit). so sorry also if i reacted too strongly.
Certainly some situations in life make us to believe in something that is not necessarily true. But it's about all personalities not the same criterion. Some are less educated some more. Reasonable man with enough education is not always a requirement, but in most situations hi will selected the right track. I drink Reishi tea and I'm not a fool to lie myself that I feel better.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18916627 - 10/01/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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forrest said: well, actually i am a bit sceptical when this kind of scientific news comes from a country that produces the product. they have an interest in what the results will be. so i would like to see some western country's investigate the matter. (not stating i don't beleive the article, just saying that when people stop having doubt in science, it becomes a religion.)
Look at THIS video and tell me if anyone fool enough to invest millions for something that is not proven by Asian or Western institutions ... I think that such a modern Mushroom House have not seen anywhere in the world. Whole industries are working on this kind of mushroom and I do not think so that Reishi mushroom is not healing. I am not telling you that you must believe. But maybe you're not checked enough or you're not educated enough on this issue to give such hard comments.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: snakebite]
#18917711 - 10/01/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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forrest said: well, actually i am a bit sceptical when this kind of scientific news comes from a country that produces the product. they have an interest in what the results will be. so i would like to see some western country's investigate the matter. (not stating i don't beleive the article, just saying that when people stop having doubt in science, it becomes a religion.)
Look at THIS video and tell me if anyone fool enough to invest millions for something that is not proven by Asian or Western institutions ... I think that such a modern Mushroom House have not seen anywhere in the world. Whole industries are working on this kind of mushroom and I do not think so that Reishi mushroom is not healing. I am not telling you that you must believe. But maybe you're not checked enough or you're not educated enough on this issue to give such hard comments.
That video makes me wish I was a comfortable double crane lingzhi.
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Re: Taiwan researchers unlock reishi mushroom's cancer-fighting secret [Re: forrest]
#18918622 - 10/01/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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forrest said: that's allright
i allso rather treat myself with MAOI or whatever else i grow or extract then what i would get from the doctor.
and i think i get a bit too fanatic about the subject. i think we both push off against what we were being brought up in. i was brought up with a religion from india (with a guru and stuff) and alternative medicine styles, and to my perception a lot of behavior that wasn't right (just as not-right as the regular medicine bullshit). so sorry also if i reacted too strongly.
Oh you didn't at all, if anything I did I'm always open to hear the other side of the issue, though. It certainly goes both ways, there are plenty of quacks and frauds in alternative medicine to match the evils of big pharma, and certainly enough good still in conventional medicine that most of us wouldn't be alive without it. I just wish our medical system was focused on health instead of profits, then we could give all these alternative/natural remedies scientific testing instead of relying on old folklore for information about them.
When I started trying to study medicinal mushrooms in depth, I was just amazed at how few RECENT studies there were on them, and the fact that few/none of them were done in this country.
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