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5 Gallon Buckets
    #18900009 - 09/27/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have started using 5 gallon buckets for my oysters.  I'm using 3/8" holes spaced about every 4".  They pinned rather thick with 20 or so pins it seemed coming out of every hole and none of them seem to be aborting so they are smaller than I'd like them to be.  Heres some pics.  I'm wondering how many holes other people are using and if maybe I just have too many holes?  They are P. columbinus and humidity seems to be right at least according to my cheap acurite from walmart which I don't expect to run long and though I"m working on fae I'm pretty sure its getting enough.  If anyone has any advice or anything input please do.  Thanks for looking.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18900362 - 09/27/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice job Cap. I think I read somewhere in this forum about spacing and number of holes. Guess this would be handy for me to know as well since 8 buckets that I am going to start next week (fingers crossed). If I find the thread I will post the link in this thread.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: cubenpete]
    #18900667 - 09/27/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

From what i read I thought I deduced the best answer.  Still looking today I see buckets with similar hole size/spacing and less/bigger mushrooms.  Maybe it was too much spawn?  Experience and tweaking conditions will soon tell.  I have 6 buckets or so fruiting at the moment and about 8 more colonizing.  Small or not its still progress getting this many mushrooms!  I also wish you luck in your endeavors!


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18900735 - 09/27/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, been searching and came up with the same thing. For instance some growers use laundry baskets and they have lots of holes and some are wildly spaced.

I did however come across a post that described picking to be much easier with 3/8-1/2 holes, in that they do less damage to the sub by holding it in during harvest.

Thanks for the wish of luck and don't forget to keep us posted.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: cubenpete]
    #18901281 - 09/28/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)


These are 3 1/2 gallon buckets.  Holes are 3/8". (they appear larger .. but if you look closely, you'll see an aborted little cluster over each hole making them appear larger)

I did new buckets with less holes (20 as opposed to 30) trying to cut down on the aborts.  I am fruiting outside so I love the moisture retention of the bucket.

Really just trying to figure it out here.

These are pearl oysters.  very forgiving mushroom.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: uncle_rico]
    #18901933 - 09/28/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think that hole size/spacing is good.  P. columbinus always seems to make way more pins than it can support.  Sometimes it will abort some itself, but when it doesn't, I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to prune some off so you get fewer, bigger mushrooms.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: Forrester]
    #18902165 - 09/28/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I must have picked a good 2 lbs or more off each bucket.  Hardly any seemed to abort but they had to share the substrate so I'm thinking had I thinned the herd I would have had bigger clusters.  They looked great either way and I'll let you know how they taste very soon :smile:


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18904482 - 09/28/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nice job.  i've put 15-20 broadhead holes per 75lb straw log with 1/4-1 pound bouquets.  you could probably get away with 5 holes if you're after bigger clusters.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: drake89]
    #18904494 - 09/28/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How much would you cull Forrester? 1/3rd?


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: Ganzig]
    #18907489 - 09/29/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I picked some before leaving this weekend and left some on as well and those that I left on were much bigger.  Maybe I just picked them too early or lessening the load made them bigger.  Experiments will tell.  I'm going to try half the holes and see what happens.  If you had to guess how many 5 gallon buckets would equal your logs Drake?


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: Ganzig]
    #18907510 - 09/29/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cap. how long did you wait before birthing?


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: Stevei]
    #18907570 - 09/29/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

On the ones that had invitro pinned I fruited them as soon as I noticed the pins even though the shiitake werent browned.  Now for the shiitake that I let brown all the way I"m just now starting to fruit them.  I had awesome fruits on the ones that prepinned though.  Just with the kings since i leave them in the bag the invitro pins weren't all in the right place.  I even threw some shiitake blocks out back that showed the slightest sign of green and after dunking them they have been fruiting for weeks now and amazing fruits and amounts.  And they still don't show hardly a sign of browning.  I may experiment one day with a side by side of one I let brown to one that has just popcorned or maybe even is just white.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18907820 - 09/29/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I still thing if you had left those oysters longer in the dark they might have got bigger.

My laundry baskets got big oysters on straw with no supplements.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18908119 - 09/29/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ganzig, yeah maybe like 1/3 or 1/2, I'm not sure...  I'll have to try it next time and see!

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I picked some before leaving this weekend and left some on as well and those that I left on were much bigger.  Maybe I just picked them too early or lessening the load made them bigger.  Experiments will tell.  I'm going to try half the holes and see what happens.  If you had to guess how many 5 gallon buckets would equal your logs Drake?




I think it may be like you said, from lessening the load.  I just did a small bucket and none of the clusters aborted.  They all grew to only a very small size and were done, stopped growing, edges curling up getting ready to spore.  I harvested them but left on two single mushrooms just because they were too small to bother harvesting.  A few days later I noticed those mushrooms had grown pretty large, bigger than any of the first ones I harvested.  I guess it had some "energy" left and only those 2 mushrooms to put it in :shrug:


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18908215 - 09/29/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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  If you had to guess how many 5 gallon buckets would equal your logs Drake?




I dunno maybe 2-3?  Like I said they weigh 75lbs wet, give or take 10lbs.

Small clusters is not necessarily a bad thing if you're doing retail, bigger ones are usually better for restaurants.  But I see if you're getting aborts then use less holes.

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I may experiment one day with a side by side of one I let brown to one that has just popcorned or maybe even is just white.




eh, if you have GGMM, stamets says that he fruits them as soon as they pin or whatever.  you can tell i don't know what i'm talking about with shiitake, as I've never fruited them.  but yeah he says he starts fruiting them before they brown.  others will tell you yields are better when you let them sit for months at a time.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18908274 - 09/29/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well
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On the ones that had invitro pinned I fruited them as soon as I noticed the pins even though the shiitake werent browned.  Now for the shiitake that I let brown all the way I"m just now starting to fruit them.  I had awesome fruits on the ones that prepinned though.  Just with the kings since i leave them in the bag the invitro pins weren't all in the right place.  I even threw some shiitake blocks out back that showed the slightest sign of green and after dunking them they have been fruiting for weeks now and amazing fruits and amounts.  And they still don't show hardly a sign of browning.  I may experiment one day with a side by side of one I let brown to one that has just popcorned or maybe even is just white.



This post was meant to go on another thread or I got the two mixed up somehow lol I have been waiting on average 10 days before fruiting a couple buckets lately I've stuck in after about 8 or 9 days just because i've heard of ppl letting them colonize in the same spot they will be fruited.  I may try leaving them in the dark longer though and see if that helps.  My first buckets were P. pulmonarius followed by 2 P. columbinus buckets which i was picturing but the rest are of the HK culture which I know is good genetics.  So depending on what I get as a result from them I will start tweaking more with my greenhouse.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19088861 - 11/05/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My HK finally started to fruit and I have been getting first flushes over the past week or two.  I'd like to know if you guys who do buckets dunk yoru soak your buckets between flushes in any ways.  When I lift the lids off they seem to be plenty hydrated and my holes are only 3/8" on most of them so not much is lost through evaporation.  Also another question.  I have made a point to only buy food grade buckets for this.  Is there any real reason to do this with this particular use of it?


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19088889 - 11/05/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't dunk my buckets at all.  I tried it once with a few buckets, didn't seem to make any difference.

All my buckets are food grade, you never know what people put in buckets.
I'd rather pay a little extra and sleep better at night knowing I'm not poisoning people.
Maybe I'm trippin' though.. :shrug:

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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: FoxFire]
    #19088898 - 11/05/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

All my buckets were brand new.  its 5 bucks with lid though.  where its as low as 2 for regular ones.


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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19088933 - 11/05/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This might help, check the number on the bottom.
http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Food-Grade-Buckets
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