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Too much water for the mix....Any experience?
    #18901806 - 09/28/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have an awful habit of making substrates too dry.  Part of my problem is that I don't work with measures per se.  Most of my work is "about a half a brick of coir and a quart of verm".  I have been doing the "Squeeze" on all of my subs, but they always have ended up slightly too dry. 

Over the last few nights I prepped/pasteurized (drinking whilst doing it) a brick of coir and 3 quart verm with 6 quarts of water.  Mass was spawned to bulk last night after drinking a few quarts of fine lager beer......

I got up early this morning, only to wonder if I overdid it.  Seems that I have a pint to a quart too much of water.  Wooops..


I am expecting molds due to the excess water.  Anyone else do this and how did it turn out?


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18901811 - 09/28/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I did this and got the green. I think you are guaranteed to get trich if you don't get that excess water out asap. I would either attempt to squeeze out the excess right now or toss that mofo.


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: JamesSpawned]
    #18901823 - 09/28/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You used a half qt (pint) of water too much. A brick of coir takes 4 qts of water. Each qt of verm take a half qt (pint) of water


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18901829 - 09/28/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I usually use 1 brick of coir, 2 qts of verm, a handful of gypsum, and 5 qts of water for a 66 qt tub. I use 6 qts of grain spawn


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18901852 - 09/28/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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JamesSpawned said:
I would either attempt to squeeze out the excess right now or toss that mofo.



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You used a half qt (pint) of water too much. A brick of coir takes 4 qts of water. Each qt of verm take a half qt (pint) of water



Thanks for the imput guys.  Heres the conclusion I quickly came to.

I got my gloves on, and grabbed out a handful and squeezed.  It did not seem bad at all.  One pint excess over a total mass of 16 quarts is ok in my book. 

I did not soak my grain prior to spawn, because simply I did not want to introduce an extra variable right this instant.  This may be a saving grace. 

I was expecting failure early with this spawn as it was another experiment.  I directly added a quarter cup of spent grounds to each jar prior to sterilizing.  I Have done this a few times in the past in mini-monos with some success.  Generally by the second flush the big green monster shows up.  However, fruit sizes are well worth it.  I added crushed eggshells this time as a slow acting buffer to the acidity of the coffee...Its my first attempt with eggshells.  My theory is that this tub is doomed.


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18901871 - 09/28/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My theory is that this tub is doomed.




Well lets hope not


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Re: Too much water for the mix....Any experience? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18901886 - 09/28/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well lets hope not



I am of a different mindset I think than most.  I have more fun with my experiments that  I think I should.  I am not a commercial cultivator, and ANYONE with a pressure cooker should be able to spawn a standard coir/verm tub successfully.  Its easy to test theories against mini-monos then adapt them to the larger tubs.  I am still trying to figure out how to add coffee without inviting contamination before the 3rd flush. 

The last few jars done without the eggshells gave me 2 flushes of beefy fruits.  I am thinking that the eggshell may allow a 3rd flush.  It was 3 shells across 7 jars.  Not much, but just a test. 

I think that the benefits of coffee grounds warrant each of us to test theories related to the inclusion in our bulk grows.


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