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OfflinePurpleHaze147
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18898007 - 09/27/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IME That doesn't sound like a synthetic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.

I thinks it's either PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, 4-MeO-PCP, or some other odd low dose dissociative for sure.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18898032 - 09/27/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try to find a grower who sells their own pot.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18898091 - 09/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
Or your dealer sprays his weed with bho oil.

Dank shit.





How is this done?


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18898214 - 09/27/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Jesus_Animal_The said:
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ModestMouse said:
Or your dealer sprays his weed with bho oil.

Dank shit.





How is this done?




And why? that's a total waste. I'm also assuming you're getting your BHO for more than 40 a g


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Galidor4]
    #18898613 - 09/27/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow guys, thanks a lot for all the inputs. I was in a panic all day yesterday, and it still freaks me out. I chilled out for the day thinking maybe I was over reacting, so later on last night, I smoked a bowl of it that was as literally small as the metal part on a pencil that holds the eraser to the wooden pencil. 15 minutes later, I couldnt pick up my mug to sip on my Dr.Pepper, it felt like it was 20 pounds. When I went to stand up, I felt as if I was being pulled down. Eye pupils were large again as well. That's off of a bowl that small.

My buddy came over, and he said it smelled "off". He said it reminded him of the spice he used to smoke, although it was normal looking bud. The shake from the bag that I didnt smoke, got hard over night. It's not just me, this bud is sketchy. Im gonna sober up a day or 2 and find a total new resource for my bud from a different part of town. Yes, I did pick up from a shady-ish part of a town.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18898820 - 09/27/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bho is cheap man's wax. 6 a g here.

CO2 wax is so clear and shattery!!!! Yum. 40 a g here lol


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18898879 - 09/27/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PurpleHaze147 said:
IME That doesn't sound like a synthetic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.




Just gonna say, this is the biggest bs i've ever read. I was smoking a lot of am-2201 at one point, started smoking the pure 'noid, and I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was (in my exgirlfriends bathroom :facepalm3:) and even who my girlfriend or her mom was when they came in and thought I had a stroke or something.

It sounds like somebody probably soaked that weed in some cannabinoid at a high enough concentration to make a couple hits too much. And I know this is possible because a friend of mine used to make batches of spice so strong 1 hit was often too much unless you had built up a good tolerance, and I know its possible to spray the noids on weed or soak the weed in noid infused solvent then evaporate.
If the weed doesnt look or smell like super dank pot then I GUARANTEE you are experiencing the effects of overdosing on synthetic cannabinoids.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
    #18899030 - 09/27/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmm.. I think your weed was laced, because even Wax which is like wayyyyy stronger than any weed, does not do that to people.

They might get racing thoughts or paranoid thoughts for a while. But the visual hallucinations is not something you'd get from smoking weed unless you're a complete amateur.

It was probably laced, but don't worry. You survived it and you'll be fine, I have done tons of hard drugs and even mixed them at times and i'm perfectly okay right now.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18900466 - 09/27/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If it was laced with PCP it would stink. IDK what fake weed smells like or if it smells at all. But PCP laced weed should smell strongly like chemicals. And since PCP is an in demand drug it doesn't make sense to just give it away for free. Same reason no one puts crack or meth in weed, unless its for themselves.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18900793 - 09/27/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, the weed does smell odd. Pungent, like most Dro around here, but whatever other scent it is, is more open-your-sinuses kind of strong.
Wouldn't taking a drug test show any other drug that COULD have been added into the herb? (besides THC of course). That's really all I could think of doing.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18901038 - 09/27/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude all the symptoms you describe sound like synthetic cannabinoids.

7 hey to guy saying those don't cause hallucinations... they most certainly do.
I thought my hanging towel was a dem.on and I was a 5yr old child.

The physical shit is eally fuckin scary. that and the fear.
Its easy to take a pure jwh or whatever, mix with alcohol, and soak the herb in it. whalla

I smoked mine pure
So gross.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18901102 - 09/27/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt the guy is selling a batch of weed that is completely covered in PCP

Probably synthetic 'noids if not just potent bud


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: InTheCosmos]
    #18901139 - 09/27/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like pcp to me.. cause idc how much weed you smoke or how dank it is you aint seeing stuff like that.. impossible...


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: dsloan1977]
    #18901448 - 09/28/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nobody benefits from lacing weed, apart from achieving the douche award... Why spoil great weed with nasty spray or other chems and lose customers?? Some of you guys are sooo paranoid LOL


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Blazer420]
    #18901485 - 09/28/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

congratulations, you smoked salvia devinourum


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: jmczeey]
    #18901751 - 09/28/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Salvia sounds fucking awful..don't know if I still wanna experiment with it


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
    #18902585 - 09/28/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was




This has happened to my friend before from synthetic Cannabinoids. I've smoked a small amount once myself, and the experience was not at all pleasant.

I'd say that it could have been laced with some synthetic cannabinoids, as others here are suggesting. The above suggestion that there could have been some Salvia Divinorum intermixed with it sounds like one of the more plausible possibilities as well. I'd still wager it was some Noids though.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: Pirax]
    #18904186 - 09/28/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Pirax said:
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[I've urpleHaze147 said:
IME That doesn't sound like a sysort tic cannabinoid to me. I have experience with all of the most powerful ones. They don't make u hallucinate, they only last about a half hour, and they don't make ur pupils big.




Just gonna say, this is the biggest bs i've ever read. I was smoking a lot of am-2201 at one point, started smoking the pure 'noid, and I kid you not I straight up full blown ego loss and complete dissociative-like visual and audio hallucinations/distortions. I forget everything about who I was, where I was (in my exgirlfriends bathroom :facepalm3:) and even who my girlfriend or her mom was when they came in and thought I had a stroke or something.

It sounds like somebody probably soaked that weed in some cannabinoid at a high enough concentration to make a couple hits too much. And I know this is possible because a friend of mine used to make batches of spice so strong 1 hit was often too much unless you had built up a good tolerance, and I know its possible to spray the noids on weed or soak the weed in noid infused solvent then evaporate.
If the weed doesnt look or smell like super dank pot then I GUARANTEE you are experiencing the effects of overdosing on synthetic cannabinoids.



Its bs of u to say the first sentence u said. Ive been smoking am-2201 @ high doses and never experienced any sort of visual. Well perceptual visual changes but that's it. And u didn't experience ego death on it unless u mixed it with a psychedelic, u had a panic attack and depersonalization. Sounds become more pernounced but I wouldn't call that a hallucination. I used to make my own blends too and with Pcp you'd do the exact same thing to make it. I also vaporize pure powder sometimes at dosages of 10mg. He said it smelt funky so it was not a noid, it was pcp or one of it's analogs. Don't say I wrote bullshit, u did.


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18904754 - 09/28/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like you got wet. (Smoked PCP) aka angel dust. How long did it last and did you feel any residual effects the next day? Oh and did it smell or taste funny?


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Re: I want all of you to help me. Please help. [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18905959 - 09/29/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Something you may not know is that drugs can effect everybody differently, and some people entirely differently. You couldn't simply say, "well 4-ho-met never gave me any visuals, only a body high, even on high doses. So those visuals were experiencing was a placebo fueled by your high expectation of crazy visuals"
I have met quite a few people that have explained weird delirious visuals from synthetic cannabinoid overdose. So who are you to say that I did not experience ego loss and visual/audio distortions/hallucinations? :rolleyes:

Also I should have mentioned that I did not have a scale that weighed past 0.00 so I was always eyeballing doses. and am-2201 taken in a large enough dose WILL give you complete ego loss. What I experiences was not only a panic attack but a full blown visual hallucination that covered my field of vision, everything that my brain was seeing through my eyes, was NOT what was actually there. A whole scenario was going through my head where my gf (who was standing in front of my crying thinking I was stroked out or something) was the mom of the household, was really short and fat (like those wacky mirrors), had huge moles on her face, and was going about the house (which in my head was a totally different house ive never seen before) picking up dirty laundry and the like. Thats all I remember, but there were a few different scenarios that played through my head, just as random and weird as that one. When they tried giving me water it tasted like chemicals and I was convinced they were trying to drug me and were gonna bust me to the cops or something. I was in a paranoid-induced state for the next 2 hours, and kept hearing and seeing mild things that were not there.
Like another guy said pcp would have a strong chemical smell.
Also after personally hearing about people lacing synth. noids with weed, I am 100% positive that the guy got noid laced weed.
Also, theres no telling if he got weed laced with some other smokable RC, and it isnt a noid altogether. But I'm pretty damn positive it was a noid.


As far as taking a drug test to isolate what it is, the only way this would work is taking a 5-panel test, which would show if you have consumed any of the schedules drugs tested for. But if its laced with a noid or other RC, that won't do you any good.
You can try a marquis reagent test :shrug:
Otherwise just take small hits of that weed at a time and make sure not to smoke too much. Some noids can take a couple minutes to hit you, and sometimes you can have already smoked too much by the time it even hits you.


Edited by Pirax (09/29/13 06:50 AM)


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