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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18888994 - 09/25/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Poppy was a communist.  That motherfucker raised taxes after promising he wouldn't.  :lolsy:


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18889080 - 09/25/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Poppy raised taxes?  You might want to take a look at the composition of Congress when he was President.  The Dems were in pretty solid control of both the House and the Senate and they write the tax laws.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18889291 - 09/25/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    I met this morning with the bipartisan leadership—the Speaker, the Senate majority leader, the Senate Republican leader, the House majority leader, and the House Republican leader—to review the status of the deficit reduction negotiations.

    It is clear to me that both the size of the deficit problem and the need for a package that can be enacted require all of the following: entitlement and mandatory program reform, tax revenue increases, growth incentives, discretionary spending reductions, orderly reductions in defense expenditures, and budget process reform to assure that any bipartisan agreement is enforceable and that the deficit problem is brought under responsible control. The bipartisan leadership agree with me on these points.





Read my lips: Poppy was a commie.  A tax raising, lying commie piece of shit.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18889881 - 09/25/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He couldn't do anything without Congress, which was wholly owned by the Dems.  And what did we get after?  A tax raising, lying commmie piece of shit with pussy foreign policy and a wandering porker plugging dick.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18892038 - 09/25/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    I met this morning with the bipartisan leadership—the Speaker, the Senate majority leader, the Senate Republican leader, the House majority leader, and the House Republican leader—to review the status of the deficit reduction negotiations.

    It is clear to me that both the size of the deficit problem and the need for a package that can be enacted require all of the following: entitlement and mandatory program reform, tax revenue increases, growth incentives, discretionary spending reductions, orderly reductions in defense expenditures, and budget process reform to assure that any bipartisan agreement is enforceable and that the deficit problem is brought under responsible control. The bipartisan leadership agree with me on these points.





Keep trying to slime your way out of it.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18893199 - 09/26/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You do know that Congress makes the tax laws, right?  All the President does is sign them.  What does that have to do with foreign policy anyway?


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18894854 - 09/26/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The arms race in Syria is getting quite nasty btw.



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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18894940 - 09/26/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What a surprise.  A brutish war between two troglodyte sides.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303796404579096782311389904.html

I feel sorry for the day to day Syrian but there is no good guy in this fight.  There isn't even a so-so guy.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18895166 - 09/26/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There wouldn't be all the fighting if outside influences hadnt stoked the fire and imported all the arms and fighters. 

I dont think assad ever killed as many people as who are getting killed now.

did anyone watch the speech at the UN that the newly elected president of Iran gave?


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Shins]
    #18895287 - 09/26/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shins said:
There wouldn't be all the fighting if outside influences hadnt stoked the fire and imported all the arms and fighters. 

I dont think assad ever killed as many people as who are getting killed now.

did anyone watch the speech at the UN that the newly elected president of Iran gave?





I know he fucking flat-ass snubbed Obama.  Fucking ignored him like an Obama is some insignificant tin-horn dictator.  :lolsy:


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Shins]
    #18895313 - 09/26/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shins said:
There wouldn't be all the fighting if outside influences hadnt stoked the fire and imported all the arms and fighters. 

I dont think assad ever killed as many people as who are getting killed now.

did anyone watch the speech at the UN that the newly elected president of Iran gave?



Ya know I'm 100% with ya that this sucks for most Syrians and 100% with ya that we have no business there but I cannot for the life of me figure out why you have a side in this fight.  They both suck horribly

No.  Nobody watched the speech that nutcase gave.  Did you?  Are you well?


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18895710 - 09/26/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The nutcase is obama, so that we don't forget. I happen to think iran has a right to exist and to do peaceful things. How is it that people "know" they plan to make nuke weapons and use them? They don't, even our spies tell us they have no such plans but certain elements don't care about facts they want iran eliminated. Obama being the piece of crap he is will probably attack iran if told to do so. He may start firing missile into syria at any given moment. He is a loose cannon and his greatest asset is that he is a coward.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #18895978 - 09/26/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought Obama did diplomacy with Syria and agreed to inspect the plants instead of bombing? And Russia said armed guards would protect plant workers during the inspection. Has he decided already he has his heart set on bombing?

Obama is like a kid set who gets their heart set on Disneyland. You know, once someone gets their heart set on something, its hard to throw them off. Obama just wants the candy, and for him the "candy" is bombing someone. Once a kid wants that candy, one way or another, they are going to get it


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18895979 - 09/26/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You do know that Congress makes the tax laws, right?  All the President does is sign them.  What does that have to do with foreign policy anyway?




You realize the POTUS has veto power, and the Democrats didn't have a veto-proof majority, right?  Why do you keep trying to slither your way out of realizing that sensible Republicans know when taxes need to be raised for the betterment of the country?

You realize that was an official White House statement on the budget, right? 

:reptiliawen: keep trying to slide your way out of your opinion that Poppy was a "true" conservative.  Poppy was a pragmatist, just like Slick Willy.  Obviously your old age is affecting your memory of the "good ol' days."


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18896730 - 09/26/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure, its war and their are no rules, as for pragmatism, I throw my support around the FSA, sure maybe some of their groups are quite nasty, they don't have much control over their groups either, but they are firmly against ISIS, ISIS is a massive threat in northern Syria, and the FSA and ISIS will eventually clash.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18898528 - 09/27/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Obumble was saved by soviets offering the deal on chem arms. O'stumble was given a gift by the russians and to his credit had enough sense to take it. He really wanted to bomb but it looked like congress was going to turn him down. He was able to salvage a scrap of his dignity by taking the deal but he really wanted to be a cowboy and bomb.

Congress passes budgets, the pres can either stand in the way or rubber stamp it. If a budget buster is passed then both congress and the numbscull in the whitehouse are to blame.

Its funny how bush jr is going up in the polls while the incompetent socialist is dropping like a stone.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18898591 - 09/27/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
You do know that Congress makes the tax laws, right?  All the President does is sign them.  What does that have to do with foreign policy anyway?




You realize the POTUS has veto power, and the Democrats didn't have a veto-proof majority, right?  Why do you keep trying to slither your way out of realizing that sensible Republicans know when taxes need to be raised for the betterment of the country?




Yes.  He has the power to say no.  That's it.
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You realize that was an official White House statement on the budget, right?


  Yes, after being told how it's gonna be by a Dem Congress
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:reptiliawen: keep trying to slide your way out of your opinion that Poppy was a "true" conservative.  Poppy was a pragmatist, just like Slick Willy.  Obviously your old age is affecting your memory of the "good ol' days."




I thought this was about foreign policy?  Or is your old age causing you to lose the topic of conversation?

I don't think we have had a true conservative in decades.  Reagan came closest.  He was a mixed bag on foreign policy though.  He ignored the Islamists and focused solely on the commies and used the Islamists in that fight.  He didn't understand what nutcases they are, even crazier than the commies.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18900564 - 09/27/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ISIS is a massive threat in northern Syria, and the FSA and ISIS will eventually clash.




They already have throughout their entire engagement in this conflict.  Most recently, last week, when they seized Azaz from the FSA.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #18901173 - 09/28/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea they had a few gun battles with Kurdish PYD, I heard they shot 450 hostages in one Kurdish town, ISIS are nasty fucks.


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Re: As Far As Obama Speech About Syria...... [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18901369 - 09/28/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea they had a few gun battles with Kurdish PYD, I heard they shot 450 hostages in one Kurdish town, ISIS are nasty fucks.




All sides are nasty fucks. It would be different if some truly secular, freedom loving, revolutionaries with some sort of  a substantial percentage of the population were fighting for equality. This is obviously not the case. The reality is you have multiple factions of, equality hating, religiously fanatic sand nigers all struggling for domination.  The middle east is culturally inferior to the western world because of their overwhelming abundance of religious fanaticism.


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