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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Patlal] 1
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No excuses. You are a poor speller and should be banned from the Pub for abusing our language. 
Republicans blame Democrats for poor policy choices that Democrats never have the temerity to admit. This is Barack's economy, Barack's health care program and Barack's failure. Yes, failure. The Stimulus Bill spent $878 billion to get a paltry $380 billion in new output. That is not even efficient enough to be a one-for-one tradeoff. Government spending will never fix the economy because the money the government needs to do the spending comes from the very economy it intends to "stimulate". Furthermore, all of the excessive borrowing crowds out the private sector borrowing that is necessary to capital formation that leads to new business starts and an indirect stimulus to the demand schedule for labor.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19018027 - 10/23/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: No excuses. You are a poor speller and should be banned from the Pub for abusing our language. 
Republicans blame Democrats for poor policy choices that Democrats never have the temerity to admit. This is Barack's economy, Barack's health care program and Barack's failure. Yes, failure. The Stimulus Bill spent $878 billion to get a paltry $380 billion in new output. That is not even efficient enough to be a one-for-one tradeoff. Government spending will never fix the economy because the money the government needs to do the spending comes from the very economy it intends to "stimulate". Furthermore, all of the excessive borrowing crowds out the private sector borrowing that is necessary to capital formation that leads to new business starts and an indirect stimulus to the demand schedule for labor.
I think we can officially say that the years 2000 to 2016 as had a massive failure in the president department.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Patlal] 1
#19018062 - 10/23/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree. GW kept us safe, hounded terrorists, stood up for the U.S. in the world and did what he had to do. Barack is phoning it in in favor of cutting down the U.S. to fit his world socialist viewpoint.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19018068 - 10/23/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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FUCKIN' OBAMA!!!!
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Everlong]
#19018075 - 10/23/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I second that.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19018083 - 10/23/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I voted for him the last election just to keep Romney out of the white house. How badly do you dislike me now?
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Everlong]
#19018088 - 10/23/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not at all. I'm glad you stood up and voted. That's what citizenship is all about and why the First Amendment is so important. Your choices are another matter altogether.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19018104 - 10/23/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: Not at all. I'm glad you stood up and voted. That's what citizenship is all about and why the First Amendment is so important. Your choices are another matter altogether. 
I'm a registered as Republican, too. Only to be able to vote in their primaries and try and get the best candidate a lead. I know that's not really going to effect anything but it's the thought that counts, right?
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: nicechrisman]
#19018692 - 10/23/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: When the Republican way of doing ended up in the biggest recession in the world as ever seen.
Maybe the Democrate's way of taxing more is a better idea.
Wrong. We got the recession because of the Community Reinvestment Act being interpreted in a way that forced lenders to make loans to deadbeats on such a massive scale that the delinquencies piled up until the whole thing came tumbling down. All brought on by a Democratic policy being interpreted to transfer wealth from those who create it to those who only expend it on consumption.
For a brain rapist you spell poorly.
But you are right, when in doubt Democrats always blame conservatives for their failed policies so you should be blaming what is happening now on the President who was in charge FIVE YEARS AGO. Yeah, that makes sense.
(But for the record, I like you patlal, and also for the record, he's Canadian FYI mpd).
Spending big money (thanks Bom-O) is like, the perfect way to ruin an economy. Same with pouring money into leaky, bureaucratically-obese corporations that are going to fail anyway if they don't figure their shit out (aka plug their own fucking holes, trim down, start doing things that make sense).
Saving Harley Davidson was a good move. The bank bailouts are more equivocal.
If you lower taxes, people spend some or much of the money they're left with and taxes are partially in essense a cheese grater for when money moves, so a little bit of a lot of chunks of money can, and has in history, bring in more tax money with lower tax rates.
BUT OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE YOUR BILLFOLD!!! THEN HES GONNA STEAL YOUR MOM'S PURSE!!!
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I voted for him the last election just to keep Romney out of the white house. How badly do you dislike me now? 
I didn't vote last time. I wanted to be able to say "I didn't vote for him" when whichever of the turds we had to choose from took office. I really regret voting for him in '08.Quote:
nicechrisman said: He always squeezes the toothpaste tube in the middle. I hate that. Also he puts the TP on the roller backwards. Fucking communists.
Does he fucking really!?! That's the worst and it's so inefficient.
I heard sometimes he leaves upper deckers and then wipes his butt on your favorite hand towels.
I don't doubt it either.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19018712 - 10/23/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: When the Republican way of doing ended up in the biggest recession in the world as ever seen.
Maybe the Democrate's way of taxing more is a better idea.
the recession stemmed from Clinton policies, I can show that quite easily, want to show us the bush policies that brought it about?
Clinton was negotiating with Repubs to get medicare extended for kids and deregulated the economy (something dumbass republicans wanted)
edit: Forgot the name but here it is: The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999
So its not the democrats fault completely, Clinton was dumb and has publicly stated his regret for using that as a bargaining chip
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: ChinChiller]
#19018829 - 10/23/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i liked bush. walker, that is.
the man gave tax cuts to all the businesses and let every one of us poor suckers work overtime to fill our pockets for xmas. it's a shame SOME PEOPLE couldn't balance work and play, and spent their way into a hole. then black people stole their girlfriends because they were too lazy and skinny to keep up.
and STILL we are trying to dick each other over with one cup of coffee in the morning only and an all meat diet and doing nothing but sitting at a computer "engineering" all day.
wth, u guys need to wake up.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19018839 - 10/23/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: I disagree. GW kept us safe, hounded terrorists, stood up for the U.S. in the world and did what he had to do. Barack is phoning it in in favor of cutting down the U.S. to fit his world socialist viewpoint.
The strategy that GW bush used was perfect for the circumstances. He used the conflict created by Al qaida to create a new enemy and to justify the use of hard power to enforce the US hegemony in a place of instable political instances.
Now that the "terrorist" plague is controlled after the wars of Irak and Afghanistan and that you showed your military supremacy over some shepherds and sub-developped country. The new president face economical challenges in the form of the emergent countries of the south pacific asia. With them, there is no utility to use hardpower (especially if you consider the interdependance with the USA's), therefore the use of softpower is necessary.
However, for the softpower to work, he has to stabilize the country. And you guys are in a period of economical turning point I think that he is trying to apply the lessons given by Franklin Roosevelt when the second mondialisation hit your country in the form of the great depression.
Since we are now in a period of Globalisation how are you supposed to protect your country if the global market fail?
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Amphibolos]
#19018900 - 10/23/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: I disagree. GW kept us safe, hounded terrorists, stood up for the U.S. in the world and did what he had to do. Barack is phoning it in in favor of cutting down the U.S. to fit his world socialist viewpoint.
The strategy that GW bush used was perfect for the circumstances. He used the conflict created by Al qaida to create a new enemy and to justify the use of hard power to enforce the US hegemony in a place of instable political instances.
Now that the "terrorist" plague is controlled after the wars of Irak and Afghanistan and that you showed your military supremacy over some shepherds and sub-developped country. The new president face economical challenges in the form of the emergent countries of the south pacific asia. With them, there is no utility to use hardpower (especially if you consider the interdependance with the USA's), therefore the use of softpower is necessary.
However, for the softpower to work, he has to stabilize the country. And you guys are in a period of economical turning point I think that he is trying to apply the lessons given by Franklin Roosevelt when the second mondialisation hit your country in the form of the great depression.
Since we are now in a period of Globalisation how are you supposed to protect your country if the global market fail?
the US eliminated the afghani terrorist threat, and traded it for terrorism at home. the terrorists now live in our own houses/offices using chinese mindfuck powers to keep us up all night and twist people's perception for their own benefit. our sense of community is fractured; they are trying to divide the classes.
the terrorists are now among the american homosexual class. (ftr, i'm not a biggot but this seems to be the case from my standpoint)
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: stimpson]
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Bush fucked up the US reputation and economy.
Whoever you blame for the 2008 recession doesn't matter. The fact that Bush didn't pass new policies or reverse the policies in play is what I find preposterous. He had many warnings.
The worst unpardonable thing Bush did was the war in Irak and Afghanistan. The Irak war was declared based on erroneous intelligence. Depending on the source there was between 100000 and 1000000 deaths. Whichever is right, its still unacceptable. The total cost of these war was 3.2 to 4 TRILLION dollars.
The Afghan war created 14000 allied casualties and god knows how many other casulties. Al-Qaida had between 50 and 100 operative to stop
Bush ruined the US international reputation.
That's why Bush failed miserably as a president
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: NWlight]
#19019013 - 10/23/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said: he made me pay more taxes for lazy people who don't give a fuck  to people whose upbringing and/or status as a minority didn't give them every opportunity on a silver platter.
yay obama
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Patlal]
#19019017 - 10/23/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your math skills suck. Stop getting talking points from idiots. We did not spend anywhere close to $4 trillion on our wars in the Middle East. If you were right our national debt would be $20 trillion. Stay in Canada and skip the lecture.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Patlal]
#19019035 - 10/23/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Bush fucked up the US reputation and economy.
Whoever you blame for the 2008 recession doesn't matter. The fact that Bush didn't pass new policies or reverse the policies in play is what I find preposterous. He had many warnings.
The worst unpardonable thing Bush did was the war in Irak and Afghanistan. The Irak war was declared based on erroneous intelligence. Depending on the source there was between 100000 and 1000000 deaths. Whichever is right, its still unacceptable. The total cost of these war was 3.2 to 4 TRILLION dollars.
The Afghan war created 14000 allied casualties and god knows how many other casulties. Al-Qaida had between 50 and 100 operative to stop
Bush ruined the US international reputation.
That's why Bush failed miserably as a president
There's about no way for anyone to have been in office with what happened during Bush's term without going down as a super controversial president.
What everyone seems to be missing is that IT IS MORE OR LESS IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL TERRORISTS FASTER THAN INSURGENCY AND COLLATERAL DAMAGE/CASUALTIES CREATES NEW ONES.
You don't have to like Allah one bit to want to kill Americans if a bunch of skinny 19 year old American boys ("Marines") mow down your family for no reason, or if an officer starts shooting your family one by one demanding you give him information, just to give but two examples.
The worst part? OBAMA IS HAVING KINKY RAWDAWG SEX WITH ALL THE GIRL TERRORISTS TO MAKE EVEN MORE TERRORISTS!!! He's like a black Zeus with questionable citizenship!
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19019037 - 10/23/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Coming from someone in the USA (because apparently facts and figures are more valid if you live in GOD'S COUNTRY!)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314
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The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: mpd]
#19019039 - 10/23/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: Your math skills suck. Stop getting talking points from idiots. We did not spend anywhere close to $4 trillion on our wars in the Middle East. If you were right our national debt would be $20 trillion. Stay in Canada and skip the lecture.
it didn't affect the debt because he took it from the annual defense budget. Now stop insulting people and try to think before saying stupid things
EDIT: Current reviews are revising the cost of the entire middle east war at around 6 trillion ,but the study isn't done yet.
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Re: Barack Obama IS YOUR NEW BICYCLE [Re: Patlal]
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"Hurr durr Amurrica, stay in Canada... you're not allowed to talk about our politics, but we're allowed to invade other countries to change their political systems."
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