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Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration.....
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They have yet to pass a full budget?! it has been band-aid Continuing Resolutions and stop-gap spending bills for 6 years. 6 Years! How freakin' irresponsible can one be? Obama wants his credit card, that is it.
But think....what a brilliant strategy. He can keep passing, with the help of the cock-blowing democrat and republican leadership, makeshift spending bills that keep the pork rolling and the credit card alive.
It avoids responsibility for a budget when you can say "We need to pass this to pay our debts."
I got an idea: how about these fucking jerk-ass buffoons do the responsible thing and get a budget that gets things under control?
he is going to be the historic first president that never operated on a budget.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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It's the Senate. Obama can't pass anything. He can only sign it.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Yes you are right. but you do realize harry Reid and Obama are locked nut-to-butt don't you?
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I sure do but I think the Senate failure to pass a budget predates the current asshole in the Oval Office.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I sure do but I think the Senate failure to pass a budget predates the current asshole in the Oval Office.
I need to take a photo and memorise that you said this
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: imachavel]
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zappaisgod said: I sure do but I think the Senate failure to pass a budget predates the current asshole in the Oval Office.
I need to take a photo and memorise that you said this
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#18913635 - 09/30/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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"Hate blogs" :lol.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
And the reason we're in a gov shutdown is Boneher is afraid to put a clean CR before the House is IT WOULD PASS! He being extorted by the Flea Baggers who would remove him from the POH and primary him in the next election.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
Like Huffington Post? MSNBC? CNN?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: B_BOY]
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
Like Huffington Post? MSNBC? CNN? 
Typical righty nonsense. Nothing to say about the facts of my statement (the Senate has passed a budget that Boehner refuses to even compromise through committee), and only whine about my sources, which are obviously more fact based than anything Zap and Starfire are reading.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18916293 - 10/01/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
And the reason we're in a gov shutdown is Boneher is afraid to put a clean CR before the House is IT WOULD PASS! He being extorted by the Flea Baggers who would remove him from the POH and primary him in the next election.
Yep, apparently he could have still gotten upwards of 100 votes for it from the right, even though he would only need about 20.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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"The Republicans won't compromise"
Well, guess what?
"The Democras Won't Compromise Either"
2 groups of useless, self serving fools.
By the way, the Republicans didn't shut down the government. It was Harry Reid and Obama's choice.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#18916310 - 10/01/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the way, the Republicans didn't shut down the government. It was Harry Reid and Obama's choice.
No it wasn't.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18916372 - 10/01/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the way, the Republicans didn't shut down the government. It was Harry Reid and Obama's choice.
No it wasn't.
Yes, it was.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: setb]
#18916408 - 10/01/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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setb said: Yes, it was is.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
#18916474 - 10/01/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: "The Republicans won't compromise"
Well, guess what?
"The Democras Won't Compromise Either"
2 groups of useless, self serving fools.
By the way, the Republicans didn't shut down the government. It was Harry Reid and Obama's choice.
The rights price is too high for the CR
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18916480 - 10/01/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope. The votes were there in the House for a clean CR but Boehner refused to put it up for a vote. These people (the radical right fanatics in the house) were ecstatic to shut the government down, by their own words. They wanted it, and they got it, and now they will pay for it.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
I read the NY Times every day. It is delivered to my house. Boehner refuses?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Mush4Brains said: The senate and the house both passed budgets over six months ago. Boehner has refused to send house members to a committee to reconcile differences for the 2014 budget. This has been in Boehner's court for six months. With one hour to go before a Federal shutdown, Boehner came up with the great idea to send people to a committee. Except Boehner didn't come up with the idea, house democrats asked for it eighteen times over the last six months.
Ya'll need to stop reading Breitbart and get your news from places other than radical right-wing hate blogs.
And the reason we're in a gov shutdown is Boneher is afraid to put a clean CR before the House is IT WOULD PASS! He being extorted by the Flea Baggers who would remove him from the POH and primary him in the next election.
A CR is not a budget. And no, what the Senate sent back will not pass the House.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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A CR is not a budget. And no, what the Senate sent back will not pass the House.
Try to keep up Zap, the Senate passed a budget and the House has refused to meet to work things out.
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A CR is not a budget. And no, what the Senate sent back will not pass the House.
Try to keep up Zap, the Senate passed a budget and the House has refused to meet to work things out.
Try to keep up sweeper54 , the House passed a budget and the Senate has refused to meet to work things out.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/325747-senate-dems-reject-formal-talks-with-house-to-end-shutdown
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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From wiki 2014 United States federal budget
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_United_States_federal_budget
The resolution was debated on the Senate floor beginning on March 21, 2013. Two days later, on March 23, 2013 the Senate passed the resolution, 50-49, with 48 Democrats, 0 Republicans, and 2 Independents voting in favor of passage. 4 Democrats and 45 Republicans voting against, with one Democrat not voting.[14] The four Senate Democrats who voted against their party's bill were Mark Begich (D-AK), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Max Baucus (D-MT), and Kay Hagan (D-NC). All four of these Senators are from states generally considered to vote Republican; all four are also up for re-election in 2014.[9]
Like I said "Try to Keep up" maybe the Times missed that bill
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Yup. And the House has passed several in the last few days.
Take your own advice.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Try to keep up sweeper54 , the House passed a budget and the Senate has refused to meet to work things out.
Also from the same page of wiki
The Senate rejected the House budget on March 21, 2013 with a vote of 40-59 and continued to work on its own budget bill, (See Senate bill, below). Republicans such as Paul Ryan have argued that the two different bills clarify the differences between the two parties on issues of spending and balanced budgets.[3]
The Paul Ryan screw the middle class and give it all to the rich. That was as DOA as the current pub bullshit.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: Yup. And the House has passed several in the last few days.
Take your own advice.
Dude I'm well aware of the Houses BS bills.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Right.
And that changes the fact that the House has sent several to the senate in the last few days.... how exactly?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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No, LDS, the House budget was passed in Mar/April, as was the Senate budget. 18 times Boehner refused to go to conference. When there was one hour before shutdown Boehner said "let's go to conference" which Reid basically said "fuck you" to. If you reversed the roles, and Pelosi was Speaker and McConnel was Majority Leader, you would blame Pelosi for stalling for so long. Why did Boehner say no for 6 months? It starts with "Tea" and ends with "Party." These people wanted a government shutdown since the day they were elected. They have their shutdown, and now they're going to pay for it.
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The 'House' has voted 43 times to de-fund the ACA and 20 bills on abortion THAT ARE GOING NO WHERE.
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What happened to the jobs? How many pieces of legislation has the 113th congress passed? Or wait, sorry Boehner said they should be judged by how many pieces of legislation they repealed... How many is that??
JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS... Then they get elected and it is "repeal PPACA" "repeal PPACA" "repeal PPACA" "roll back abortion rights" "repeal PPACA."
Don't even get me started on the state houses "repeal PPACA" "ban abortion" "disenfranchise the young, poor, and minorities."
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Three million, (That's 3,000,000) people today tried to sign up for the AHCA an act that "The majority of American reject" Try to keep up pubs.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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What is that, 5-10% of the uninsured ON THE FIRST DAY?
IF the GOPers were smart, they would be tarnishing Obama with the fact this was a Heritage (conservative) plan that Obama pushed through. Instead they lie about the negatives while downplaying the benifits to score political points.
"What is your idea to replace Obamacare"
"We don't have any because Obamacare was our idea "
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Really? No? You're saying the House didn't send a few bills to the House over the last few days?
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the House budget was passed in Mar/April, as was the Senate budget. 18 times Boehner refused to go to conference. When there was one hour before shutdown Boehner said "let's go to conference" which Reid basically said "fuck you" to. If you reversed the roles, and Pelosi was Speaker and McConnel was Majority Leader, you would blame Pelosi for stalling for so long. Why did Boehner say no for 6 months? It starts with "Tea" and ends with "Party." These people wanted a government shutdown since the day they were elected. They have their shutdown, and now they're going to pay for it.
I blame them all, though mostly Reid and Obama. You know... the two twits who have repeatedly said "my way or the highway".
Much like the last 17 "shutdowns" nothing will come of it.
Also, as the new fiscal year starts today... it would seem your point about what happened in March is moot.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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The ACA was the pubs answer to Hillary Care, it's Romney Care.
A majority of people don't like the Act. This may be true but it also includes people like me that think it didn't go far enough.
Medicare for all, fuck the insurance companies.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Really? No? You're saying the House didn't send a few bills to the House over the last few days?
I'm saying it's a non-starter. Boehner has refused to go to conference for over six months, and then when we're this close to shutdown he holds the president's signature legislation hostage to try and go to conference?
"If you reversed the roles, and Pelosi was Speaker and McConnel was Majority Leader, you would blame Pelosi for stalling for so long."
Boehner has been held hostage. As a liberal/progressive, I almost feel bad for the schmuck.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Not if she was right.
In this case, the Republicans are right.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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So much denial.
Boehner refuses to go to conference for 6 months. Has the final, clean CR on his lap to put up for vote. Too afraid of the radical right to put it to the floor, where it would pass by a large margin, Boehner says "we should go to committee," with an hour left and suddenly Boehner is right. Somehow sending something to a Democratic Senate that they know cannot pass is somehow pragmatic. Somehow sending something to a Democratic Senate that they know cannot pass is their idea of compromise. 
Keep spinning the truth. You know if the names were Pelosi instead of Boehner, McConnel instead of Reid, and Romney instead of Obama, you would be saying the exact opposite thing.

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A CR is not a budget. And no, what the Senate sent back will not pass the House.
Try to keep up Zap, the Senate passed a budget and the House has refused to meet to work things out.
A CR is not a budget. Pay attention. http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/reid-we-will-not-go-conference-gun-our-hea
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in no uncertain terms said Senate Democrats would not go to a conference committee with House Republicans unless they send a clean continuing resolution to the Senate.
Why does this cunt think he can set the terms?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#18917631 - 10/01/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why did Boehner say no to go to conference on the FY2014 BUDGET for six months?
Why did Reid think they can set the terms? Dems gained seats in the house. Held the senate. Won the presidency by 5million votes.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18917634 - 10/01/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: No, LDS, the House budget was passed in Mar/April, as was the Senate budget. 18 times Boehner refused to go to conference. When there was one hour before shutdown Boehner said "let's go to conference" which Reid basically said "fuck you" to. If you reversed the roles, and Pelosi was Speaker and McConnel was Majority Leader, you would blame Pelosi for stalling for so long. Why did Boehner say no for 6 months? It starts with "Tea" and ends with "Party." These people wanted a government shutdown since the day they were elected. They have their shutdown, and now they're going to pay for it.
Do you have a link in support of the bolded statement? This is the second time I have requested it.
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My stance would be the same. I detest politicians in general.
There's no denial. You just choose to focus on the then as opposed to the now.
This is a new fiscal year for the Feds. A budget passed in March or April has little or no bearing on one passed just a few days ago.
If the Senate was doing it's job they'd have not gone 4 years without a budget and Reid would not be beating his chest and proclaiming "my way or no way".
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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A majority of people don't like the Act. This may be true but it also includes people like me that think it didn't go far enough.
Medicare for all, fuck the insurance companies.
Fuck bumcare.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Why does this cunt think he can set the terms?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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A CR is not a budget. Pay attention.
NO SHIT Sherlock! Did you just figure that out or are you restating the obvious?
What part of: The resolution was debated on the Senate floor beginning on March 21, 2013. Two days later, on March 23, 2013 the Senate passed the resolution, 50-49, with 48 Democrats, 0 Republicans, and 2 Independents voting in favor of passage. Didn't you get?
Try to keep up Zip.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] 1
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ok, Zappa, I'm sure your opinion matters. Good thing there aren't facts to back up my view of things or anything. Keep trying to slither your way out of things 
Why would anybody agree to go to conference one hour before shutdown after asking for six months. If the roles were reversed, like I told LDS, you would blame Pelosi for not meeting with the Senate.
I'll just sit over here and watch the Democrats ruin America, while hopefully you have a heart attack.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18917898 - 10/01/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Boehner says "fuck you" for six months... Finally realizes he will go down as the weakest, most disliked speaker in history because of the radical right Tea Party and tries to call a conference... Gets told to fuck off and suddenly it is Reid's fault 
Man, I wish I could be so brain damaged to believe such a scenario. I guess 40 years of boozing and riding high on deregulation makes you a little .
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18917931 - 10/01/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The type of "compromise" that the House Republicans seek is unreasonable. Period. You can't expect the other party to meet you in the middle when you're sitting on Mars.
The whole "Dems won't compromise either" argument is disingenuous.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Me_Roy]
#18917944 - 10/01/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me_Roy said: The type of "compromise" that the House Republicans seek is unreasonable. Period. You can't expect the other party to meet you in the middle when you're sitting on Mars.
The whole "Dems won't compromise either" argument is disingenuous.
Shhhh, you're breaking up the LDS and ZIG circlejerk that is sanctioned by the mods in Political Discussion.
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Man, I wish I could be so brain damaged to believe such a scenario. I guess 40 years of boozing and riding high on deregulation makes you a little .
Provide a link to back your shit up. Those do not. Did you think I wouldn't check?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Me_Roy] 1
#18917986 - 10/01/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me_Roy said: The type of "compromise" that the House Republicans seek is unreasonable. Period. You can't expect the other party to meet you in the middle when you're sitting on Mars.
The whole "Dems won't compromise either" argument is disingenuous.
Really? I might point out that Obama has delayed Obamacare several times for favored actors, which delays remain in effect, and has exempted Congress and its staffers from any of the requirements. Why won't Obama follow his own law?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#18918016 - 10/01/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Boehner says "fuck you" for six months... Finally realizes he will go down as the weakest, most disliked speaker in history because of the radical right Tea Party and tries to call a conference... Gets told to fuck off and suddenly it is Reid's fault 
Man, I wish I could be so brain damaged to believe such a scenario. I guess 40 years of boozing and riding high on deregulation makes you a little .
Provide a link to back your shit up. Those do not. Did you think I wouldn't check?
I provided multiple sources. You ignore them. That's on you, not me. I'm sorry your ideology is awful, but that's what you get when you support the faction of government that wants to destroy the United States.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#18918019 - 10/01/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whether you and the rest of the pubs want to admit it, THE PEOPLE WANT THE ACA.
3,000,000 tried to sign up for it TODAY.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18918055 - 10/01/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, Zappa, I'm sure your opinion matters. Good thing there aren't facts to back up my view of things or anything. Keep trying to slither your way out of things 
Why would anybody agree to go to conference one hour before shutdown after asking for six months. If the roles were reversed, like I told LDS, you would blame Pelosi for not meeting with the Senate.
I'll just sit over here and watch the Democrats ruin America, while hopefully you have a heart attack. 
\ Really? You can't deal with debate without wishing death on your opponent? Hopefully the heart attack will come soon since my insurer has informed me that they will no longer be offering coverage as of December 31. Thanks Barry. This is the third time I have had a policy dropped in the last 3 years because of this law.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the Senate called for a conference on the budget and SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the House turned them down. Al of a Fuck'n sudden, an hour before the deadline, your lame ass pubs decide their going to stage a photo op.
It's not too late to start looking for a recipe for Crow. If you're going to have to eat it you'd better find a recipe you like.


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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18918066 - 10/01/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweeper54 said: Whether you and the rest of the pubs want to admit it, THE PEOPLE WANT THE ACA.
3,000,000 tried to sign up for it TODAY.
So? 1% of the population? How did that go, anyway? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
The people oppose it in every one of this polls.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the Senate called for a conference on the budget and SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the House turned them down. Al of a Fuck'n sudden, an hour before the deadline, your lame ass pubs decide their going to stage a photo op.
It's not too late to start looking for a recipe for Crow. If you're going to have to eat it you'd better find a recipe you like.
Link?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18918070 - 10/01/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You keep saying that, but there is no evidence except anecdotal evidence. Sorry I don't believe you.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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sweeper54 said: SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the Senate called for a conference on the budget and SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the House turned them down. Al of a Fuck'n sudden, an hour before the deadline, your lame ass pubs decide their going to stage a photo op.
It's not too late to start looking for a recipe for Crow. If you're going to have to eat it you'd better find a recipe you like.
Link?
Why? You won't read it even if it was in the NY Times.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the Senate called for a conference on the budget and SIXTEEN (16) TIMES the House turned them down. Al of a Fuck'n sudden, an hour before the deadline, your lame ass pubs decide their going to stage a photo op.
It's not too late to start looking for a recipe for Crow. If you're going to have to eat it you'd better find a recipe you like.
Link?
Why? You won't read it even if it was in the NY Times.
Precisely. I provided him six links, and he claimed they were all false. All he does is troll political discussion and Phred will ban people that don't agree with hm for whatever bullshit reason he can think of. Apparently being free thinking and having your own opinions on the Shroomery is not allowed, unless those opinions align with the moderators' opinions.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18918106 - 10/01/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I read all of Mush4brains' links. They didn't do what he aid they did. I don't give two shits what Patty Murray says. Come up with something real.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Precisely. Even though those links confirmed what the one Democrat Representative said, he doesn't care.
Nothing could be proof enough to make Zappa realize his entire outlook on life is flawed. That would crush his ego way too hard. He will never admit being wrong.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/10/01/2706691/gop-shutdown-conference/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/01/1242924/-So-now-Republicans-demand-a-conference-after-blocking-it-for-past-seven-months
http://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-house-to-appoint-conference-committees-2013-9
http://inagist.com/all/385048654794334209/
http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/972741
http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=news&id=239
WHY DID BOEHNER SAY NO FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE SAYING YES AN HOUR BEFORE THE SHUTDOWN?
WHY DO TEAPUBLICANS KEEP TRYING TO SAY THIS ISN'T TRUE, AND THAT IT IS HARRY REID WHO SAID NO TO A BUDGET CONFERENCE?
WHAT SANE POLITICIAN WOULD BE DENIED FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN ACCEPT A DEAL AN HOUR BEFORE SHUTDOWN?
WHY DOES ZAPPA KEEP LYING AND MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET HIS POINT ACROSS?
WHY WERE TEA PARTY MEMBERS WHO GOT ELECTED SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AT THEIR ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES, TOWN HALLS, AND PUBLIC EVENTS WHILE CLAIMING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN ONCE THE TIME CAME TO VOTE?
WHY WERE PEOPLE CHANTING "CUT IT OR SHUT IT" AT TEA PARTY EVENTS TWO YEARS AGO IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE SHUT DOWN?
WHY WERE THE TEA PARTY LEGISLATORS ON AIR TODAY AND THE PAST COUPLE YEARS SAYING 'HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHOW THAT GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARY' AFTER CLAIMING THEY DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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I read all of the NY Times every day They drop in my driveway. I finish the puzzles, too.
Mush's 6 links
1. Huff post
Senate Rejects House GOP Request For Conference Committee Negotiation
2. Daily Kos says so. They don't even quote Murray
3. Michael McCauliffe says so. His quote from Murray?
Quote:
We know going to a conference means that we have to compromise -- that's what a conference is," Murray said just before midnight. "But we're not going to do it
4. Nuttiness from a freakshow that says nothing about 18 or 16 times
5. Patty Murray again
6. Nothing to do with 18 or 16 or however many times. It is Obama demanding that Boehner and the majority of Americans submit to his perverted will.
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OK Zap. You're obviously right, without any sources, any proof, or any evidence. I guess I'll just start voting for all your astroturf candidates from here on out.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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ACA is the law of the land
It past a Supreme Court challenge
It past as one of the top points of contention in the presidential race in 2012
Today 3,000,000 people tried to sign up for it
And YES zap that only 1% of the country, but 30% don't have insurance.
Next stop, Single payer baby.
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Mush4Brains said: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/10/01/2706691/gop-shutdown-conference/
Do you believe everything a Dem politician says?Quote:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/01/1242924/-So-now-Republicans-demand-a-conference-after-blocking-it-for-past-seven-months
Patty Murray again.Quote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-house-to-appoint-conference-committees-2013-9
Nothing to do with 18 or 16 or whatever.Quote:
http://inagist.com/all/385048654794334209/
Really?Quote:
http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/972741
Patty Murray againQuote:
http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=news&id=239
Doesn't say anything about 18 or 16 times or whatever. All you post is Patty Murray whining about something with no substance and several links that are irrelevant.Quote:
WHY DID BOEHNER SAY NO FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE SAYING YES AN HOUR BEFORE THE SHUTDOWN?
link? Try to find one from BoehnerQuote:
WHY DO TEAPUBLICANS KEEP TRYING TO SAY THIS ISN'T TRUE, AND THAT IT IS HARRY REID WHO SAID NO TO A BUDGET CONFERENCE?
Because we have him on video?Quote:
WHAT SANE POLITICIAN WOULD BE DENIED FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN ACCEPT A DEAL AN HOUR BEFORE SHUTDOWN?
They sent three deals, all were rejected. The last one because it made Congress critters and their henchmen subject to the same laws as everybody else (except for Obama exempted cronies)Quote:
WHY DOES ZAPPA KEEP LYING AND MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET HIS POINT ACROSS?
I didn't lie and you failed to provide proof.Quote:
WHY WERE TEA PARTY MEMBERS WHO GOT ELECTED SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AT THEIR ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES, TOWN HALLS, AND PUBLIC EVENTS WHILE CLAIMING THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN ONCE THE TIME CAME TO VOTE?
Link? You do know that they were elected to eliminate Obamacare, which the people would like to see. Hell. the second prposal was just to delay it, which Obama has done by fiat repeatedly in contradiction of law.Quote:
WHY WERE PEOPLE CHANTING "CUT IT OR SHUT IT" AT TEA PARTY EVENTS TWO YEARS AGO IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE SHUT DOWN?
Link?Quote:
WHY WERE THE TEA PARTY LEGISLATORS ON AIR TODAY AND THE PAST COUPLE YEARS SAYING 'HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHOW THAT GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARY' AFTER CLAIMING THEY DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?
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sweeper54 said: ACA is the law of the land
It past a Supreme Court challenge
It past as one of the top points of contention in the presidential race in 2012
Today 3,000,000 people tried to sign up for it
And YES zap that only 1% of the country, but 30% don't have insurance.
Next stop, Single payer baby.
Did you know that it is the job of Congress to determine the law of the land? Slavery used to be the law of the land. I am well aware that Obamacare is a worm to cause single payer. I believe that is why they deliberately made it suck.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Did YOU know it takes BOTH of the houses to pass a law?
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it was revealed earlier today on Townhall.com that Obama wanted to go in and work with the republicans, actually come to a compromise that would satisfy both sides, But Harry Reid told the president there was more political gain from stonewalling.
It's Harry Reid who is the fucking one holding up progress.
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I'm so sick and tired of hearing this asshole in the white house spew his bullshit, I swear he can't speak a single paragraph on his teleprompter without lying.
The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchio's for his statement that, “You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.”
In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different non germane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.
“The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”
A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Yes, they do.
So tell me liberals just how long is the country to continue taking on debt it will never be able to pay back? Just how indebted to foreign nations shall we become? How long do we sit back and watch Obama raid the social security trust fund, taking from tax paying Americans to pay for the health care costs of illegals? How many others that are in this country illegally now are "entitled" to what the shrinking middle class has had to pay into. If his parasitical whore aunt is used as an example, then the American taxpayer is fucked.
It's too late for us now, the die is cast, and it is just a matter of time. We are ruled by fucking lawyers, many of whom were personal injury ambulance chasers. The most depraved, lying, hypocritical fucks ever to disgrace this planet are in charge. Where did people think this would lead us? I would feel more secure having my taxes in the hands of used car salesmen.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Therian]
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Therian] 1
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Therian said: I'm so sick and tired of hearing this asshole in the white house spew his bullshit, I swear he can't speak a single paragraph on his teleprompter without lying.
The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchio's for his statement that, “You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.”
In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different non germane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.
“The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”
A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Yes, they do.
So tell me liberals just how long is the country to continue taking on debt it will never be able to pay back? Just how indebted to foreign nations shall we become? How long do we sit back and watch Obama raid the social security trust fund, taking from tax paying Americans to pay for the health care costs of illegals? How many others that are in this country illegally now are "entitled" to what the shrinking middle class has had to pay into. If his parasitical whore aunt is used as an example, then the American taxpayer is fucked.
It's too late for us now, the die is cast, and it is just a matter of time. We are ruled by fucking lawyers, many of whom were personal injury ambulance chasers. The most depraved, lying, hypocritical fucks ever to disgrace this planet are in charge. Where did people think this would lead us? I would feel more secure having my taxes in the hands of used car salesmen.
QFT
The fucking lawyers man. Read warning labels these days, there is at least one on everything you purchase saying the most ludicrous things, all because of lawyers.
Lawyers write the laws, so why would they make them simple for the average person to be able to understand them? Well for one, they would all lose their high paying jobs.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: unknown1123]
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said: it was revealed earlier today on Townhall.com that Obama wanted to go in and work with the republicans, actually come to a compromise that would satisfy both sides, But Harry Reid told the president there was more political gain from stonewalling.
It's Harry Reid who is the fucking one holding up progress.
Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position. But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] 1
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Mush4Brains said: Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position. But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.
6 months ago was the 2013 budget.
The budget currently in play is the 2014 budget.
10/1 is when the Federal fiscal year starts. If you were 10% as clever as you seem to think you'd be aware of that.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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You people don't read these posts you're living in your fantasy.
GO BACK AND READ, THEN TRY AGAIN!
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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IF the Dems were assholes like you pubs we would be shutting down the government to get Gun Background Checks.
But we'll just wait for the fall out from this shut down in the 2014 elections and a few more mass shootings and we'll have them. We don't need to hold the country hostage.
So hows this for a counter We'll delay the ACA for a year, but we want Back Ground Checks for all guns and a Supreme Court Nominee to be name later.
No, OK we'll also throw in funding of the National Monuments in DC even thou you assholes won't give them the right to a rep because there are so many minorities living there.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains] 1
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starfire_xes said: it was revealed earlier today on Townhall.com that Obama wanted to go in and work with the republicans, actually come to a compromise that would satisfy both sides, But Harry Reid told the president there was more political gain from stonewalling.
It's Harry Reid who is the fucking one holding up progress.
Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position. But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.
You have failed at every turn to prove anything of the kind occurred. "Patty Murray says," means absolutely nothing. It is her job to blame Republicans for anything and everythung. But Reid's own mouth said, "No conference." There is no reason to let President Napolean off the hook either. Even though he, himself, has delayed elements of Obamacare 14 times he won't sign anything that either removes his exemptions or delays other elements. Napolean is a petulant child.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Zip 5,000,000 people have been trying to sign up for it in the first 2 days. How much for proof do you need that American want the ACA?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Here's an update for ya zap
6,100,000 hits on the fed site
5,000,000 hits on the CA State site
10,000,000 hits on the NY State site
People WANT Health Insurance.
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You seem to be unaware that: A. Hits mean squat. B. Approximately 1% of those who went to the site actually signed up, with a high of 5.3% from Kentucky. California - .58%. Connecticut - .59%
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442115/EXCLUSIVE-Less-1-cent-Web-visitors-signing-Obamacare-state-health-exchange-websites.html
I never cease to be amazed by how little you seem to know about that which you pontificate.
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sweeper54 said: Zip 5,000,000 people have been trying to sign up for it in the first 2 days. How much for proof do you need that American want the ACA?

Link? How do you know they were trying to sign up? There are more than 300 million people in this country. Every poll says people hate it. I recently received a letter from my health insurer, Nippon Life, telling me they are getting out of the nbusiness of insuring individuals and families. This is the third time in the last three years that I have had to find a new provider. Further, 77% of new jobs are under 30 hours a week. The exchanges are a complete clusterfuck of incompetence but although Obama could delay the effects for big business and throw them out entirely for Congress critters and their staff he could wait to launch a complicated program that was clearly NOT READY.
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Connecticut signed up 167 people.
Woo-Hoo! They're beating the doors down!
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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sweeper54 said: Zip 5,000,000 people have been trying to sign up for it in the first 2 days. How much for proof do you need that American want the ACA?

Link? How do you know they were trying to sign up? There are more than 300 million people in this country. Every poll says people hate it. I recently received a letter from my health insurer, Nippon Life, telling me they are getting out of the nbusiness of insuring individuals and families. This is the third time in the last three years that I have had to find a new provider. Further, 77% of new jobs are under 30 hours a week. The exchanges are a complete clusterfuck of incompetence but although Obama could delay the effects for big business and throw them out entirely for Congress critters and their staff he could wait to launch a complicated program that was clearly NOT READY.
"SHOW ME THE LINK"
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said: Connecticut signed up 167 people.
Woo-Hoo! They're beating the doors down!
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It gets even better....
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California's health insurance exchange vastly overstated the number of online hits it received Tuesday during the rollout of Obamacare.
State officials said the Covered California website got 645,000 hits during the first day of enrollment, far fewer than the 5 million it reported Tuesday.
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-california-health-exchange-glitches-20131001,0,7108713.story
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Mush4Brains said: Maybe if Boehner would have said "yes" six months ago we wouldn't be in this position. But of course, Boehner said "no," and here we are.
6 months ago was the 2013 budget.
The budget currently in play is the 2014 budget.
10/1 is when the Federal fiscal year starts. If you were 10% as clever as you seem to think you'd be aware of that.
Why would they be debating a FY 2013 bill six months into the year?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_United_States_federal_budget#Senate_bill
"The resolution was debated on the Senate floor beginning on March 21, 2013. Two days later, on March 23, 2013 the Senate passed the resolution, 50-49, with 48 Democrats, 0 Republicans, and 2 Independents voting in favor of passage."
Why do you keep denying facts? Why do you keep lying?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: You have failed at every turn to prove anything of the kind occurred. "Patty Murray says," means absolutely nothing.
Find somewhere that somebody is saying what she says isn't true.
If it weren't true, people would be calling her a liar. I've provided multiple sources that are publishing her "claims" as truth. Why isn't Boehner saying she is lying? Why not Paul? Why not Cruz? Why aren't they defending themselves from lies?
Why do you refuse to believe anything that doesn't come from Breitbart, RedState, or Rush's mouth?
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Mush4Brains said: Why would they be debating a FY 2013 bill six months into the year?
Because the Senate hasn't been doing it's job.
And it actually looks like we were both wrong.
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(CNN) -- The Democrat-controlled Senate passed its first formal budget proposal in four years early Saturday after hours of non-stop voting that started Friday evening.
The non-binding plan for the 2014 budget calls for a trillion dollars in tax increases and passed 50 to 49. No Republicans voted for the bill, and four Democrats voted against it.
They didn't actually pass a budget and it was for 2014.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/23/politics/senate-budget-bill/index.html
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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"The Democrat-controlled Senate passed its first formal budget proposal in four years early"
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A budget proposal is not the same as a budget.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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zappaisgod said: You have failed at every turn to prove anything of the kind occurred. "Patty Murray says," means absolutely nothing.
Find somewhere that somebody is saying what she says isn't true.
If it weren't true, people would be calling her a liar. I've provided multiple sources that are publishing her "claims" as truth. Why isn't Boehner saying she is lying? Why not Paul? Why not Cruz? Why aren't they defending themselves from lies?
Why do you refuse to believe anything that doesn't come from Breitbart, RedState, or Rush's mouth?
Because they do not swat gnats. She is utterly inconsequential. As are your news source links. Why do you persist in assaulting what you imagine to be my news sources? At least 80% of the visual and print media is solidly in the tank for liberals. Conservatives have some of the internet and most the radio. I get the NY Times dropped in my driveway every morning. I get up at 6 or so, make coffee, read the paper and do the puzzles and go off around 7:30. And when I say I read the paper, I mean I read the fucking paper, whackjob liars and all. Breitbart is interesting but not great. Rush is great. I don't do Redstate. I've been there they don't work for me. Not because of the content but because of the format. There are much more interesting sites for me. Like National Review The Corner, Ace Of Spades, Hot Air, Protein Wisdom, Legal Insurrection, Althouse, Moonbattery.
If anybody lives in a bubble of intellectual incest it is you and the writers at the times. It sure as shit isn't me.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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I get the NY Times, I get the NY Times, I get the NY Times...
I do the puzzles, I do the puzzles, I do the puzzles...
Bully for you, you sound like you stroke yourself a lot also.
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It's just that I get tired of retards saying I'm conservative because I watch FoxNews. I don't watch FoxNews. Argue the point or get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. Stop with the bullshit. I pre-date FoxNews. By a lot.
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luvdemshrooms said: A budget proposal is not the same as a budget.
There are only budget proposals until the House and Senate go to committee, which was refused by the house for over six months, until there was a shutdown looming in one hour.
The OP claims the senate hasn't passed a budget in 6 years which is wholly false.
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luvdemshrooms said: A budget proposal is not the same as a budget.
There are only budget proposals until the House and Senate go to committee,
Right. So, still not a budget.
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And the HOUSE has REFUSED to meet the Senate for the last SIX (6) MONTHS.
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And still... not a budget.
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GOT IT?
Who says? Patty Murray?
They're prepared to meet now. They've passed several bills, each one demanding less impact on Obamacare. The first one defunded it. The second one delayed, something that the cocksucking President has done repeatedly and the third one simply required an end to special treatment for favored cronies. Now we have the cocksucker saying there will be no negotiating at all on anything.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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At the fault of the House. They grandstand saying the senate doesn't pass a budget, but when the senate does, the won't meet with them about it.
, you really try hard to make the GOP look like a group of saints. You don't have to like democrats to say they're right.
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Mush4Brains said: At the fault of the House. They grandstand saying the senate doesn't pass a budget, but when the senate does, the won't meet with them about it.
, you really try hard to make the GOP look like a group of saints. You don't have to like democrats to say they're right.
The Senate won't meet now and I don't believe a single word Patty Murray says. Would you please provide a link to a Republican saying they won't meet with the Senate? Like I have repeated quotes for both Reid and Obama that they won't negotiate. Something like that would go a long way to supporting your argument. Patty Murray does not.
By the way, I am disgusted with the Republicans for abandoning conservative principles. But they are fucking miles better than the Dem Fascists.
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Yeah, I'm sure GOPers are gonna come out and say they stalled for six months . I don't care what you believe or don't believe Zap.
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Reid and Obama have had no problem saying they won't negotiate. I know you don't care what I say. I don't post to convince you, I post to embarrass you before the general reading public. I think I do a pretty good job of it. Not that you would feel shame. Liberals never feel shame even when they get caught with hookers, posting dick pics and putting cigars and other things in women 30 years younger than them. Also molestation and rape.
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Liberals never feel shame even when they get caught with hookers, posting dick pics and putting cigars and other things in women 30 years younger than them. Also molestation and rape.
Zap do you really want to go there. Mark Vitter, that faggot that was sucking the pages. There's enough on both sides. I thought better of you, turns out in the end you can sink lower then your opponents when you're losing.
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Liberals never feel shame even when they get caught with hookers, posting dick pics and putting cigars and other things in women 30 years younger than them. Also molestation and rape.
Zap do you really want to go there. Mark Vitter, that faggot that was sucking the pages. There's enough on both sides. I thought better of you, turns out in the end you can sink lower then your opponents when you're losing.
Try to get it right. And I'm not losing. But you are. Since when are liberals allowed to use the word "faggot"?
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When the Pub faggot is sucking off under age boys, thats when.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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Mark Foley, a Republican Congressman from Florida, but I think I mistook him visually for the Sen from out west they caught soliciting in an airport rest room.
Then looking up Mark I found, There were also allegations that a second Republican Congressman, Jim Kolbe, had improper conduct with at least two youths, a 16-year old page and a recently graduated page.
We can play this game both ways, but that's another thread.
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sweeper54 said: Mark Foley, a Republican Congressman from Florida, but I think I mistook him visually for the Sen from out west they caught soliciting in an airport rest room.
Then looking up Mark I found, There were also allegations that a second Republican Congressman, Jim Kolbe, had improper conduct with at least two youths, a 16-year old page and a recently graduated page.
We can play this game both ways, but that's another thread.
Would you like to back those up? As far as I know Mark Foley never touched anyone and Kolbe is complete bullshit.
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AS FAS AS YOU KNOW. Boy let me tell you what a warm fucking fuzzy feeling that gives me. Shit Zap you get whimpier with each post.
Nope, their guilty, they got away with it due to their position and may they rot in hell, if there is such a place and I would say that if it was a Dem who did that. Child molesters deserve their own special hell.
The restroom perp, another thing I couldn't less about.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: AS FAS AS YOU KNOW. Boy let me tell you what a warm fucking fuzzy feeling that gives me. Shit Zap you get whimpier with each post.
Nope, their guilty, they got away with it due to their position and may they rot in hell, if there is such a place and I would say that if it was a Dem who did that. Child molesters deserve their own special hell.
The restroom perp, another thing I couldn't less about.
UH, do they get a fair trial before you convict them? Or is this another example of what we will get in your ideal Socialist Utopia? 
I remember that bathroom deal, I thought it was some dude in Montana, a congressman, or somehwere up there, he was into the 'tap three times on the stall if you want me, twice on the pipes means I'm ready to blow...' 
So come on, why don't you just open your eyes and realize that both sides of the two-party system are corrupt, cock-sucking lying scumbags who are merely in it for their own interest? None of them give two fucks about anything except who to throw a bone to in order to garner more votes.
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You can say "ACA the law of the land" till your blue in the face you can throw temper tantrums about Republican attempts to defund it, but at the end of the day they're doing it because it is in their authority to do so. If it wasn't the Dems would do something about it and get it funded without the Republican house without a government shutdown. Why haven't the Dems done this? It's an obvious answer, they can't.
It really is that simple, you don't have to agree with it, you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is in reality. As has been pointed out to you Democrats have done the same thing in the past.
We can speculate on the political fallout from all this, and why not?, this is a political forum after all, but until the elections it's really just lefties speculation vs. righties speculation.
Don't delude yourself about 3 FACTS though. 1. The House isn't doing anything outside it's authority. 2. This isn't the first time "the law of the land" has been defunded 3. Democrats have voted to defund the "law of the land" in the past. This isn't unique to the Republican Party
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sweeper54 said: AS FAS AS YOU KNOW. Boy let me tell you what a warm fucking fuzzy feeling that gives me. Shit Zap you get whimpier with each post.
Nope, their guilty, they got away with it due to their position and may they rot in hell, if there is such a place and I would say that if it was a Dem who did that. Child molesters deserve their own special hell.
The restroom perp, another thing I couldn't less about.
Please post a link. Otherwise as far as I know you diddle kids. It has the same the same weight.
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Simplicitry said: You can say "ACA the law of the land" till your blue in the face you can throw temper tantrums about Republican attempts to defund it, but at the end of the day they're doing it because it is in their authority to do so. If it wasn't the Dems would do something about it and get it funded without the Republican house without a government shutdown. Why haven't the Dems done this? It's an obvious answer, they can't.
It really is that simple, you don't have to agree with it, you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is in reality. As has been pointed out to you Democrats have done the same thing in the past.
We can speculate on the political fallout from all this, and why not?, this is a political forum after all, but until the elections it's really just lefties speculation vs. righties speculation.
Don't delude yourself about 3 FACTS though. 1. The House isn't doing anything outside it's authority. 2. This isn't the first time "the law of the land" has been defunded 3. Democrats have voted to defund the "law of the land" in the past. This isn't unique to the Republican Party
DOMA was the "law of the land" and the admin said they wouldn't even defend it- which is illegal by the way. Agree with it or not, it was the law of the land. Citizen's united is the law of the land. Hypocrites.
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Simplicitysaid the Dems would do something about it and get it funded without the Republican house without a government shutdow
It's AREADY funded that's why
Yes laws have been defunded. I know, most of the Gun laws have been defund by pubs
But show me where in US history there has been a defunding without a vote and holding the country hostage and shutdown by a minority party.
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It's AREADY funded that's why
Yes laws have been defunded. I know, most of the Gun laws have been defund by pubs
But show me where in US history there has been a defunding without a vote and holding the country hostage and shutdown by a minority party.
Ummm, The Republicans are the MAJORITY PARTY in the House. Besides you do realize that a minority party would still have rights and authority don't you.
Here is a partial list of government shutdowns when Democrats were the minority in government overall (in these examples as well they were the Majority party in the House) and caused government shutdowns
1981 Nov 20 Nov 23 President Reagan, Senate: Rep House: Dem President Ronald Reagan pledged that he would veto any spending bill that failed to include at least half of the $8.4 billion in domestic budget cuts that he proposed. Although the Republican controlled Senate passed a bill that met his specifications, the Democratically controlled House insisted on larger cuts to defense than Reagan wanted as well as pay raises for congress and senior civil servants. A compromise bill fell $2 billion short of the cuts Reagan wanted, so Reagan vetoed the bill and shut down the federal government. A temporary bill restored spending through December 15 and gave Congress the time to work out a more lasting deal.
1982 Sep 30 Oct 2 President: Reagan Senate: Rep House: Dem Congress passed the required spending bills a day late. 1982 Dec 17 Dec 21 3 Reagan Rep Dem The House and Senate wished to fund job programs, but President Reagan vowed to veto any such legislation. The House also opposed plans to fund the MX missile. The shutdown ended after Congress abandoned their jobs plan, but Reagan was forced to yield on funding for both the MX and Pershing II missiles. He also accepted funding for the Legal Services Corporation, which he wanted abolished, in exchange for higher foreign aid to Israel.
1983 Nov 10 Nov 14 President: Reagan Senate: Rep House: Dem The House increased education funding but cut defense and foreign aid spending, which led to a dispute with President Reagan. Eventually, the House reduced their proposed education funding, and also accepted funding for the MX missile. However, the foreign aid and defense cuts remained, and oil and gas leasing was banned in federal wildlife refuges. Abortion was also prohibited from being paid for with government employee health insurance.
1984 Sep 30 Oct 3 President: Reagan Senate: Rep House: Dem The House wished to link the budget to both a crime-fighting package President Reagan supported and a water projects package he did not. The Senate additionally tied the budget to a civil rights measure designed to overturn Grove City v. Bell. Reagan proposed a compromise where he abandoned his crime package in exchange for Congress dropping the water projects package. A deal was not struck, and a three-day spending extension was passed instead.
1984 Oct 3 Oct 5 President: Reagan Senate: Rep House: Dem The October 3 spending extension expired, forcing a shutdown. Congress dropped its proposed water and civil rights packages, while President Reagan kept his crime package. Funding for aid to the Nicaraguan Contras was also passed.
1986 Oct 16 Oct 18 President: Reagan Senate:Rep House: Dem Disputes over multiple issues between the House and President Reagan and the Republican Senate forced a shutdown. The House dropped many of their demands in exchange for a vote on their welfare package, and a concession of the sale of then-government-owned Conrail.
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Again, you don't have to agree with it, you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is in reality. As has been pointed out to you Democrats have done the same thing in the past.
We can speculate on the political fallout from all this, and why not?, this is a political forum after all, but until the elections it's really just lefties speculation vs. righties speculation.
But don't delude yourself about 3 FACTS though. 1. The House isn't doing anything outside it's authority. 2. This isn't the first time "the law of the land" has been defunded 3. Democrats have voted to defund the "law of the land" in the past. This isn't unique to the Republican Party
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As usually you failed to give and example of what the pubs are doing now. ACA is the law of the land and they are holding the country hostage in order to defund a LAW, not a PROGRAM, not some line item in a budget, a law.
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A budget is supposed to be passed every year with funding for each element of the government is debated for the upcoming year. And the ACA is a program. If the LAWMAKERS pass a bill defunding it it is defunded under the law.
Now what do you have to say about Obama, NOT A LAWMAKER, by the way, picking and choosing elements of the LAW OF THE LAND that he wants he wants to DEFY?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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DOMA was the "law of the land" and the admin said they wouldn't even defend it- which is illegal by the way. Agree with it or not, it was the law of the land. Citizen's united is the law of the land. Hypocrites.
DOMA was unconstitutional.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: As usually you failed to give and example of what the pubs are doing now. ACA is the law of the land and they are holding the country hostage in order to defund a LAW, not a PROGRAM, not some line item in a budget, a law.
You are hopeless. With you being a leftist I don't see why I should be surprised. You should look into how many times the government got shutdown during the Carter administration, and he had a Democrat House & Senate.
You know what else is the "Law of the land"? Both houses of congress must approve a budget before it goes to the President for his signature or veto. It really makes no differnce how much you cry about it or how you feel about that that's the way it is. There is absolutely no question to that
"we may have to compromise with the party that controls half of the legislative branch"
Awww you poor things! Life is so rough!
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Nice opinion piece
You blame Republicans. Republicans blame Democrats. I blame both, I just happen to have a much deeper hatred for leftists.
That all means little right now. When elections comes the people will weigh in (I'm not implyiny one way or the other I have very little faith in the people these days)
But you try to make it seem as though the house overstepped it's authority. That is false
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It doesn't matter what he thinks, or what you think. It doesn't matter which side is responsible, if not both, not until elections that is.
In the meantime even if the Republicans are completely at fault (like brainwashed leftist blet out constantly) it's perfectly within their authority to do so.
You may not like it, your feelings may get really hurt, you may whine excessively, but at the end of all that you have no say in it right now. Actually unless you live in a district represented by one the Republicans that has you all torn to pieces thank you'll never have a say in it.
Make no mistake though it is within their authority. What the consequences or end results are for such actions is another discussion.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
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They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
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Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind
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Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind 
Yeah, just like the Democrats didn't support civil rights . Lets ignore the realignment of the parties over the last thirty years and only care about the name of the party .
Holy fuck. There has never been a shutdown in such a fragile economy, all because a party lost an election and cannot pass legislation that they want.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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Hahahaha Rachel Madow!!! That's fucking great. No bias there. You'll win tons of credibility with her as a source
I'm right wing Libertarian, and you won't catch me sourcing Limbaugh & Beck. She is the Beck level clown of the left
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You obviously didn't even watch the video.
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Mush4Brains said: They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind 
Yeah, just like the Democrats didn't support civil rights . Lets ignore the realignment of the parties over the last thirty years and only care about the name of the party .
Holy fuck. There has never been a shutdown in such a fragile economy, all because a party lost an election and cannot pass legislation that they want.
The Democrats didn't support civil rights and supported the KKK. That is a very well established historical fact. I suggest you read some books about Franklin Delano Roosevelt & Harry S Truman, and the Republicans of their time. What you would find is the party lines are not as different as you make them out to be. That's only a myth perpetuated by Democrats ashamed of their disgusting past
"Well we used to be the Republicans" " up was down and down was up" "right was left and left was right" What Bullshit!
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How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
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Yeah, the democratic party today is the same democratic party that didn't support civil rights . You can tell by all the democratic state houses moving to disenfranchise millions of minority voters with voter ID laws .
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How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
By loading the video and seeing the logo? Republicans are on record for three years saying they are going to shut the government down. But, since it is Rachel Maddow showing you those clips, apparently it doesn't matter.
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How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
By loading the video and seeing the logo? Republicans are on record for three years saying they are going to shut the government down. But, since it is Rachel Maddow showing you those clips, apparently it doesn't matter.
I don't agree that voter I.D. Laws are racist. They're not saying that only minorities have to show ID are they?Do you want to know what is? Affirmative Action. Treating minorities like they need a hand to hold and a government tit to suckle is racist. I'm a minority living in America and I'm doing just fine without the government boost against my competition
I watched the video. Some of those politicians could have been telling their constituency that they would shut down the government before selling them out. That's open to interpretation based on context. That leftist clowns biased commentary? Not so much
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And please educate yourself on the politics during the Roosevelt administration. It will teach you something about party lines not being different in the early 20th century as you think they were
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How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
By loading the video and seeing the logo? Republicans are on record for three years saying they are going to shut the government down. But, since it is Rachel Maddow showing you those clips, apparently it doesn't matter.
Voter ID laws have no more to do with race than murder laws do.
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There is a reason why Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican. It's because he believe in equality. True equality
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Affirmative Action is judging a person by the color of his skin.
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That's why the majority of people who don't have the ID necessary are the poor and minority voters . All to combat the non-existent practice of voter fraud (election fraud by conservatives is rampant, however). Get real.
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Dead on
" I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King, Jr.
Fucking sad
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JFK was elected by dead people in Chicago
Please provide link to election fraud rampant by conservatives. Thanks in advance. If that is the case wouldn't you want voter ID?
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Mush4Brains said: That's why the majority of people who don't have the ID necessary are the poor and minority voters . All to combat the non-existent practice of voter fraud (election fraud by conservatives is rampant, however). Get real.
"Dos minorities bees too po an' stupid to get an ID boss" my minority side of the family all vote, and we have I.D.'s to believe it or not! I know you must be shocked
"election fraud by conservatives is rampant, however" Link?
"non-existent practice of voter fraud" Well which is it, it can't be non-existent and rampant at the same time can it? Or is that just in lefty land?
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"Dos minorities bees too po an' stupid to get an ID boss" my minority side of the family all vote, and we have I.D.'s to believe it or not! I know you must be shocked
"election fraud by conservatives is rampant, however" Link?
"non-existent practice of voter fraud" Well which is it, it can't be non-existent and rampant at the same time can it? Or is that just in lefty land?
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-voter-fraud-hall-of-shame-milwaukee-voter-fraud-conviction-makes-acorn%E2%80%99s-2010-total-at-least-15/
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Yet another former ACORN employee was convicted of voter fraud last week. This brings the total number of convictions for former workers from the embattled group to at least 15 so far this year.
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ACORN was not hired by the DNC to register voters. Unlike many of the conservative groups that have been found guilty of election fraud.
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ACORN is a liberal group Would you please provide me with a list of the conservative organizations that have had 15 people convicted of voter fraud and what Simplicitry says is dead on. Either voter fraud is rampant or it is non- existent. Which is it?
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http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/policy-brief-truth-about-voter-fraud
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Summary -Fraud by individual voters is both irrational and extremely rare. -Many vivid anecdotes of purported voter fraud have been proven false or do not demonstrate fraud. -Voter fraud is often conflated with other forms of election misconduct. -Raising the unsubstantiated specter of mass voter fraud suits a particular policy agenda. -Claims of voter fraud should be carefully tested before they become the basis for action.
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So what is it? Rampant or non-existent? I posted 15 convictions. What you got?
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06/21/shocker-republicans-account-for-most-cases-of-u-s-voter-fraud/
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Last November two Republican voters in separate states decided to prove how easy it would be to vote illegally. Both were arrested and charged with voter fraud. In February 2012 a jury found Indiana’s Republican secretary of state, Charlie White, guilty on six counts of voter fraud, theft, and perjury. Four staffers of Republican congressman Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI) were indicted last August, charged with submitting over 1,500 “forged and falsified” signatures in what the Michigan attorney general, also a Republican, called a “blatant” and “disgraceful” attempt to qualify the congressman for last year’s ballot.
And these are official members of the GOP! Not an outside agency that promotes themselves as liberal.
Voter fraud, which is what the GOP is trying claim is occurring and why voter ID is needed, is a statistically non-existent. Voter ID will not stop the election fraud that is being perpetrated.
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Voter ID: which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - Done.
-PA House Majority Leader Mike Turzai
I thought it was PREVENTING VOTER FRAUD? Nope, it is about disenfranchising people who vote Democrat.
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Last November two Republican voters in separate states decided to prove how easy it would be to vote illegally. Both were arrested and charged with voter fraud. In February 2012 a jury found Indiana’s Republican secretary of state, Charlie White, guilty on six counts of voter fraud, theft, and perjury. Four staffers of Republican congressman Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI) were indicted last August, charged with submitting over 1,500 “forged and falsified” signatures in what the Michigan attorney general, also a Republican, called a “blatant” and “disgraceful” attempt to qualify the congressman for last year’s ballot.
And these are official members of the GOP! Not an outside agency that promotes themselves as liberal.
Voter fraud, which is what the GOP is trying claim is occurring and why voter ID is needed, is a statistically non-existent. Voter ID will not stop the election fraud that is being perpetrated.
How do you know it is non-existent if you don't require ID?
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
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In 2008, Obama received 100 percent of the vote in 57 districts in Philadelphia.
The 59 that went 100 percent for Obama in 2012
Right. 20,000 votes and not one for Romney. Nope, nothing to see here, move along, move along.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Something went wrong.
The page you are looking for could not be found.
Even if I could get to the page, I don't believe other conspiracy theories, why would I believe one that you post
Until you can prove that there is a significant amount of voter fraud, there is no reason to believe there is a significant amount of voter fraud.
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How do you know it is non-existent if you don't require ID?
I had a fake ID from the age of 16-21. What is an ID going to say that the current system doesn't?
How do you know voter fraud exists if you don't require ID? See, I can ask stupid fucking questions too.
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The page you are looking for could not be found.
Even if I could get to the page, I don't believe other conspiracy theories, why would I believe one that you post
Until you can prove that there is a significant amount of voter fraud, there is no reason to believe there is a significant amount of voter fraud.
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How do you know it is non-existent if you don't require ID?
I had a fake ID from the age of 16-21. What is an ID going to say that the current system doesn't?
How do you know voter fraud exists if you don't require ID? See, I can ask stupid fucking questions too.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
Fucked if I know why it didn't work for you
It's easy to bust an asshole with a fake ID. It is almost impossible to bust an asshole with no ID. Proving you have a right to vote is not that high a bar
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DOMA was the "law of the land" and the admin said they wouldn't even defend it- which is illegal by the way. Agree with it or not, it was the law of the land. Citizen's united is the law of the land. Hypocrites.
DOMA was unconstitutional.
Unconstitutional or not--and I didn't agree with DOMA. But because it is unconstitutional, that does NOT mean Obama or any president can decide to enforce it or implement it or not. If the law is passed by congress and signed by a president and becomes law, the supremes have to decide if it is unconstitutional or not.
And that doesn't mean the House can't block funding even if a law IS constitutional. They have the power to block. Period. End of story.
Now, I didn't agree with DOMA--it is unconstitutional. Why? Because it violates someones 'rights?' NO.
It's unconsitutional because it isn't a power specified for the federal government in the constitution. The STATES get to decide what marriage is.
Just remember that next to the commie mother fuckers in the government want to impose another overbearing, socialist policy that the constitution doesn't grant them authority for.
To be fair on that last points, this applies equally to democrats AND republicans.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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It's unconsitutional because it isn't a power specified for the federal government in the constitution
I don't think that is why it is unconstitutional. If it were, the SC would have cited the 10th Amendment, and not the 5th.
And the Executive office has every right not to defend something in court, prosecutorial discretion is not illegal. If they chose not to enforce something, you might have a reason to be upset, but the Executive branch simply said they wouldn't defend it in court.
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And the Executive office has every right not to defend something in court, prosecutorial discretion is not illegal. If they chose not to enforce something, you might have a reason to be upset, but the Executive branch simply said they wouldn't defend it in court.
The Oath of the Office of President of the United States.....
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Now let me see...hmmm "DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION" which means the RULE OF LAW.....
So I guess Obama is a scumbag liar who doesn't HONOR HIS OATH TO THE PEOPLE...
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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Not if something is unconstitutional
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Mush4Brains said: Not if something is unconstitutional 
Are you dense or what? The President does NOT get to choose what is constitutional and unconstitutional. If something is law, the supreme court has to decide. He is NOT the judge.
It may well be unconstitutional--but he can't change it without going to the courts. If he has that power, then the president can make or reject any law he wants. That is called Tyranny, or a dictator.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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But it was unconstitutional. 
If the courts said it was constitutional after he vowed not to defend it, you might have an argument here. But they didn't, and you don't.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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You are hopeless. I throw up my hands, no one can possibly be as clueless as you. Is it deliberate?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: starfire_xes]
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Am I deliberate in my analysis of current events and factual statements? Yes.
Do I deliberately spew hate blog talking points. No.
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Hate blog talking points? What has that got to do with anything? I was just pointing out you seem to think the president can decide a law is unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it. he can't. I didn't like DOMA either, but the president can't make the decision. If the president can pick and choose what laws to enforce or make up laws on whim, then obviously there is no need to have a congress or even a supreme court. Just let the president decide.
HOW FUCKING STUPID WOULD THAT BE?
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starfire_xes said: Hate blog talking points? What has that got to do with anything? I was just pointing out you seem to think the president can decide a law is unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it. he can't. I didn't like DOMA either, but the president can't make the decision. If the president can pick and choose what laws to enforce or make up laws on whim, then obviously there is no need to have a congress or even a supreme court. Just let the president decide.
HOW FUCKING STUPID WOULD THAT BE?
Indeed. Some people seem to think that every four years the American populace elects a king.
"Checks and balances? Separation of powers? Rule of Law? Uhhhh... what does that have to do with anything? Obama won the election, yo!"
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Phred]
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Phred, why don't you ban people who break the rules? Why are you such a biased piece of... oh wait, I'll be banned for this post.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
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What are you whining about now?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Zap swallows dick taters
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