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Simplicitry
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18944433 - 10/07/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Again, you don't have to agree with it, you don't have to like it, but that's the way it is in reality. As has been pointed out to you Democrats have done the same thing in the past.
We can speculate on the political fallout from all this, and why not?, this is a political forum after all, but until the elections it's really just lefties speculation vs. righties speculation.
But don't delude yourself about 3 FACTS though. 1. The House isn't doing anything outside it's authority. 2. This isn't the first time "the law of the land" has been defunded 3. Democrats have voted to defund the "law of the land" in the past. This isn't unique to the Republican Party
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18944788 - 10/07/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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As usually you failed to give and example of what the pubs are doing now. ACA is the law of the land and they are holding the country hostage in order to defund a LAW, not a PROGRAM, not some line item in a budget, a law.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18945345 - 10/07/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweeper54 said: As usually you failed to give and example of what the pubs are doing now. ACA is the law of the land and they are holding the country hostage in order to defund a LAW, not a PROGRAM, not some line item in a budget, a law.
A budget is supposed to be passed every year with funding for each element of the government is debated for the upcoming year. And the ACA is a program. If the LAWMAKERS pass a bill defunding it it is defunded under the law.
Now what do you have to say about Obama, NOT A LAWMAKER, by the way, picking and choosing elements of the LAW OF THE LAND that he wants he wants to DEFY?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18945348 - 10/07/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DOMA was the "law of the land" and the admin said they wouldn't even defend it- which is illegal by the way. Agree with it or not, it was the law of the land. Citizen's united is the law of the land. Hypocrites.
DOMA was unconstitutional.
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Simplicitry
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: sweeper54]
#18945357 - 10/07/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweeper54 said: As usually you failed to give and example of what the pubs are doing now. ACA is the law of the land and they are holding the country hostage in order to defund a LAW, not a PROGRAM, not some line item in a budget, a law.
You are hopeless. With you being a leftist I don't see why I should be surprised. You should look into how many times the government got shutdown during the Carter administration, and he had a Democrat House & Senate.
You know what else is the "Law of the land"? Both houses of congress must approve a budget before it goes to the President for his signature or veto. It really makes no differnce how much you cry about it or how you feel about that that's the way it is. There is absolutely no question to that
"we may have to compromise with the party that controls half of the legislative branch"
Awww you poor things! Life is so rough!
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945408 - 10/07/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945492 - 10/07/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Simplicitry
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945548 - 10/07/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-republicans-blame-obama-20131006,0,2739790.story
Nice opinion piece
You blame Republicans. Republicans blame Democrats. I blame both, I just happen to have a much deeper hatred for leftists.
That all means little right now. When elections comes the people will weigh in (I'm not implyiny one way or the other I have very little faith in the people these days)
But you try to make it seem as though the house overstepped it's authority. That is false
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945560 - 10/07/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945577 - 10/07/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Simplicitry
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945617 - 10/07/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter what he thinks, or what you think. It doesn't matter which side is responsible, if not both, not until elections that is.
In the meantime even if the Republicans are completely at fault (like brainwashed leftist blet out constantly) it's perfectly within their authority to do so.
You may not like it, your feelings may get really hurt, you may whine excessively, but at the end of all that you have no say in it right now. Actually unless you live in a district represented by one the Republicans that has you all torn to pieces thank you'll never have a say in it.
Make no mistake though it is within their authority. What the consequences or end results are for such actions is another discussion.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945632 - 10/07/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945641 - 10/07/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
Who has?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945660 - 10/07/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945683 - 10/07/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind 
Yeah, just like the Democrats didn't support civil rights . Lets ignore the realignment of the parties over the last thirty years and only care about the name of the party .
Holy fuck. There has never been a shutdown in such a fragile economy, all because a party lost an election and cannot pass legislation that they want.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945691 - 10/07/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hahahaha Rachel Madow!!! That's fucking great. No bias there. You'll win tons of credibility with her as a source
I'm right wing Libertarian, and you won't catch me sourcing Limbaugh & Beck. She is the Beck level clown of the left
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945703 - 10/07/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You obviously didn't even watch the video.
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945726 - 10/07/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: They've been saying they're going to shut down the government for three years. This isn't the democrats doing.
Oh the horrors! Democrats have never shut the government down....Oh wait a minute....Oh they have??? Really?? This just in folks the Democrats shut down the government before. Nevermind 
Yeah, just like the Democrats didn't support civil rights . Lets ignore the realignment of the parties over the last thirty years and only care about the name of the party .
Holy fuck. There has never been a shutdown in such a fragile economy, all because a party lost an election and cannot pass legislation that they want.
The Democrats didn't support civil rights and supported the KKK. That is a very well established historical fact. I suggest you read some books about Franklin Delano Roosevelt & Harry S Truman, and the Republicans of their time. What you would find is the party lines are not as different as you make them out to be. That's only a myth perpetuated by Democrats ashamed of their disgusting past
"Well we used to be the Republicans" " up was down and down was up" "right was left and left was right" What Bullshit!
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18945739 - 10/07/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: You obviously didn't even watch the video.
How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
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Re: Does anyone realize that almost 6 years into the Obama administration..... [Re: Simplicitry]
#18945747 - 10/07/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, the democratic party today is the same democratic party that didn't support civil rights . You can tell by all the democratic state houses moving to disenfranchise millions of minority voters with voter ID laws .
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Mush4Brains said: You obviously didn't even watch the video.
How do you suppose I knew it was Rachel Maddow then?
By loading the video and seeing the logo? Republicans are on record for three years saying they are going to shut the government down. But, since it is Rachel Maddow showing you those clips, apparently it doesn't matter.
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