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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18871412 - 09/21/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I did try leaving the top of the bag open for a few days to get air in there and it still did nothing.




Ruining the relative humidity and also drying out your grow. Possible lost cause.


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18871428 - 09/21/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I know nothing about grow kits, but if it didnt do anything since a month there must be something wrong with that thing and the mycelium apparently dosn´t like it in there. If you really want to save it, crumble it, mix it with about the same volume of sterilised hay from the pet shop (fractioned heating will do it if no pressure cooker is available) and put it into a proper fruiting chamber. A bucket cleaned out with bleach and covered with some moist rags will work.

But perhaps its not even a psilocybe but some other kind of mushroom or white mold eating up your mycelium?


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Icesyn]
    #18871456 - 09/21/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I did try leaving the top of the bag open for a few days to get air in there and it still did nothing.




Ruining the relative humidity and also drying out your grow. Possible lost cause.




You're right. I either need to give up or go all in and get more involved. Maybe something is trying to tell me it's just not meant to be right now.


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Icesyn]
    #18871471 - 09/21/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

squeeze all the air out of the bag (letting it go through that "filter", so it should be slow.  Then pick the back up by the top and/or pull the sides apart so that it pulls in air through that same "filter".  Do that at LEAST 2x a day.  If you see the verm on the top drying out, get a spray bottle (one that mists) and open the bag to spray it.  Like others have said, it needs lots of fresh air, but keeping humidity high.  Knowing that info, think of a way to perform those two steps.  good luck

and it is strange to use kits to most people b/c the amount of money you paid for the kit would get you close to set up to do your own grow 1 or 2 times a year, for many years down the road, self sufficiency is a good thing :thumbup:  You did order an illegal kit that you didn't have to do :wink:


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: j_db69]
    #18871563 - 09/21/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If all you had to do was dunk and fruit then it came fully colonized....


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Nakor420]
    #18871793 - 09/21/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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and it is strange to use kits to most people b/c the amount of money you paid for the kit would get you close to set up to do your own grow 1 or 2 times a year, for many years down the road, self sufficiency is a good thing :thumbup:  You did order an illegal kit that you didn't have to do :wink:




Thanks for the suggestions and I'll try that. What I meant by big grow operation was anything that puts out ounces or pounds at a time. I don't want pounds or ounces sitting in my freezer. These kits were putting out about 10-20 grams of dry shrooms a week for me and I would only eat around 7 grams to trip once about every 1-3 weeks. I would build up an ounce in the freezer and then by the time I go to eat them a month or two later their potency would be very low or completely gone. Maybe I dried and stored them wrong but I did use an airtight glass jar and kept them in the freezer. I care more about having large amounts stored than the illegality of growkits. I could tell once that the box had been opened by customs but they just taped it back up with duct tape and I still got it. It might have been the USPS that held it up because the tracking did show it passed through customs and then it took a month to get to me after that. I don't think they'd do anything but confiscate it if they wanted to unless they saw actual shrooms growing. And they were probably looking for weed since it came from the Netherlands.

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If all you had to do was dunk and fruit then it came fully colonized....




I know they come fully colonized. This could be where I went wrong though. They were out of stock and didn't ship for a few weeks after I ordered. The kit looked very fresh when I received it. I'm guessing their stock usually sits around for a little bit before they ship them out so they have some time to colonize before they end up in anybody's hands. Since they had backorders to fill they shipped them out as soon as they were made. So I "dunked" it like you said while it didn't have enough time to colonize. Does this sound possible?


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18871966 - 09/21/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I smell a raid
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Start from scratch. Ditch the vendor.


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Icesyn]
    #18872241 - 09/21/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well, with the proper supplies, you could forget about ordering ANYTHING online, and especially not through customs.  Buy the few things you need at a store and crank up a little pressure cooker once or twice a year on some BRF cakes.  They will make you the few grams/ounces that you want.  That way, at any time other than growing, there is nothing illegal... unless spores are illegal in your state

I think you are ok, but after this little run I would clean up your house, and expose yourself as little as possible to customs, IMO.

there is a lot of info out there and it does appear "daunting" but once you understand the steps, you can do it anyway that fits you best, plus you get to learn things :smile:


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Icesyn]
    #18872266 - 09/21/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna put the lid on the plastic box then put it in the oven at 450°F for an hour or two so it gets good and dried and sterilized at the same time. Then I'll put it in the dish washing machine so it gets nice and "dunked" then put it in the bag. Should see pins in a few days after that.


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18872360 - 09/21/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you want the humidity to be above 90% inside the bag, and then give it as much fresh air as you can while maintaining the humidity, that is all you can do at this point.  Unless it is dried out, then you can dunk it.  You are past the steps for  sterilization, which would KILL the mushrooms.

Really man, fresh air and humidity, that's it.  Don't be scared to open the bag and spray a fine mist over it after fanning it.  Let it breathe and give it time...


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18872410 - 09/21/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

did I understand right that you want to put the mycelium into the oven at 450°F and then into the dish washing machine?


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18872535 - 09/21/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm gonna put the lid on the plastic box then put it in the oven at 450°F for an hour or two so it gets good and dried and sterilized at the same time. Then I'll put it in the dish washing machine so it gets nice and "dunked" then put it in the bag. Should see pins in a few days after that.



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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Icesyn]
    #18875936 - 09/22/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Rauhfasertapete said:
did I understand right that you want to put the mycelium into the oven at 450°F and then into the dish washing machine?




I was kidding.

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you want the humidity to be above 90% inside the bag, and then give it as much fresh air as you can while maintaining the humidity, that is all you can do at this point.  Unless it is dried out, then you can dunk it.  You are past the steps for  sterilization, which would KILL the mushrooms.

Really man, fresh air and humidity, that's it.  Don't be scared to open the bag and spray a fine mist over it after fanning it.  Let it breathe and give it time...




Thanks! I'm going to do exactly that. I believe it is very salvageable. Today I see a pin poking around the side of the vermiculite and a very small one close to it. I need to mention this too. The sides of the plastic container are very tight like the mycelium is pushing against it. I think there's just something keeping the mycelium from breaking through the verm. Maybe when I first dunked it and put the lid on to let it sit overnight I packed down the verm too tight. There was barely any room for water when I dunked it. Is there anything I can do to loosen up the verm like rake it a bit with a fork or anything else you would suggest I do at this point?



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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18876016 - 09/22/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In this case, I would probably, very gently, brush aside some of the verm layer, depending on how deep it is, so that ample O2 can get to the colonized layer.  Also, you are keeping it in a tent/dome to maintain humidity right?  Don't let it drop but give it enough fresh air...


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: j_db69]
    #18876057 - 09/22/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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In this case, I would probably, very gently, brush aside some of the verm layer, depending on how deep it is, so that ample O2 can get to the colonized layer.  Also, you are keeping it in a tent/dome to maintain humidity right?  Don't let it drop but give it enough fresh air...




It looks like there's about a one inch layer of verm. I used a fork to loosen it up a bit. I put it back in the bag but as the instructions say to do, I put some water in the bottom of the bag to keep humidity and cut two quarter size holes in each side of the bag for air flow.


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18876300 - 09/22/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool :thumbup:

now the hard part.... waiting :smile:


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: j_db69]
    #18895588 - 09/26/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

After 4 days there's still only shrooms coming up from the sides. They seem to be growing very slowly too.



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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
    #18895879 - 09/26/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just let them grow.  After this flush, dunk if they need it, otherwise just give them more air exchanges and the humidity high, they will keep flushing until they use up the nutrients. unless it was spent...


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: j_db69]
    #18897668 - 09/27/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

poor suffocating shrooms! give 'em a real FC!


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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: spacechildo]
    #18899182 - 09/27/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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poor suffocating shrooms! give 'em a real FC!




I have no car so it would be hard to get supplies, especially something kinda big like that. Know of something on amazon I could order?


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