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Cpt.Crunch
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What if somebody ate 1000g dry?
#18899036 - 09/27/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What would happen if somebody ate 1000g dry? Do you think they'd live??
Does psilocybin max out at a certain dose or is it the more you eat the more you trip?
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18899079 - 09/27/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You wouldn't be able to fit that much in your stomach.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: 11nova]
#18899112 - 09/27/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Look up the LD50... how is this a valid thread? How old are you OP? How may ripz bro?
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18899118 - 09/27/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18899132 - 09/27/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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a competitive eater would find consuming that much dry, feet flavored fungus difficult.
as far as chemical toxicity you practically would need to eat your body weight in cubes to die from OD, not to say one might not commit suicide purposefully or accidentally on a fraction of that though, for any number of reasons.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: bishlap]
#18899137 - 09/27/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or extract them then dose.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18899227 - 09/27/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you ate that much dried fungal material you would puke a whole lot before absorbing probably even half of the active compounds.
Psychologically, at such high doses, you would have a ridiculous out of body experience for like 24 hours and probably black out at some point.
Basically though, you could never consume enough mushrooms to get near a dangerous dose of psilocin/psilocybin. If you had pure 4-HO-DMT you could die from a ridiculous (probably intentional) overdose but mushrooms will make you vomit profusely way before you could overdose.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Ok amoismis]
#18899241 - 09/27/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The question (if you bothered reading) "Would they live" and is their a dosing ceiling.
It states none of the hypotheticals but one you stated.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18899359 - 09/27/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol geeze, I was just wondering no need to talk to me like i'm stupid.
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Psychologically, at such high doses, you would have a ridiculous out of body experience for like 24 hours and probably black out at some point.
thanks for answering.
Edited by Cpt.Crunch (09/27/13 04:07 PM)
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18899431 - 09/27/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only problem with that is the half life is 3-6hr
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18899516 - 09/27/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cpt.Crunch said: What would happen if somebody ate 1000g dry? Do you think they'd live??
Does psilocybin max out at a certain dose or is it the more you eat the more you trip?
Take 15 dry grams yourself and report back what that was like.
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You can only go so far into the bardo lol and you don't need a whole lot to get there
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18900496 - 09/27/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said: Only problem with that is the half life is 3-6hr
Let me explain what the half life means. Lets assume the half life is only 3 hours, and the OP consumes all 2.2lb in an instant.
0hrs - 1000g worth of mushrooms in system 3hrs - 500g 6hrs - 250g 9hrs - 125g 12hrs - 63g 15hrs - 31g 18hrs - 16g 21hrs - 8g 24hrs - 4g 27hrs - 2g 30hrs - 1g 33hrs - 0.5g 1.5 days - soberish
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Ram Dass]
#18900543 - 09/27/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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1000G= 1 kilo= 2.2 lb That is a lot of dried mushrooms That is like a 2/ 5 gallon buckets full.Ya really That is something some one can eat in one sitting. Ha ha ha ha I'd like to watch that one.
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Cpt.Crunch
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Eddeee]
#18900553 - 09/27/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone mentioned competetive eaters ,
I think a competetive eater would have no problem downing 1000 grams of dried mushrooms. lol look at this guy.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Eddeee]
#18900565 - 09/27/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Exactly, so the trip would be longer than 1.5 days, depending on consumption time and other factors. I was simply explaining how the half life would work in this situation.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Ram Dass]
#18900685 - 09/27/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I disagree. 6hr> 3hr> 1.5hr> .75hr> 0.375hr> 0.1875hr> 0.09375hr> 0.046875hr> 0.0234375hr till it's eventually out of your system. But substitute dose for time
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18900738 - 09/27/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't have any idea what you're talking about. Here is the definition of half life though.
Half-life (t½) is the amount of time required for a quantity to fall to half its value as measured at the beginning of the time period.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: dark3st]
#18900979 - 09/27/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said: The question (if you bothered reading) "Would they live" and is their a dosing ceiling.
It states none of the hypotheticals but one you stated.
Pretty sure I attempted to hypothesize an answer to the questions asked.
Yes, they would live because they couldn't possibly absorb enough to kill them before intense vomiting occurred. Even as far as competitive eaters are concerned, the problem wouldn't just be getting the mushrooms down but keeping them down long enough to absorb the full dose of active tryptamines contained within them. Otherwise they wouldn't really be on a dose of 1,000g, just what they could absorb before puking.
Yes, there's kind of a dosage ceiling since at some point you would be unable to comprehend or remember anything from the experience. But it would probably be hard to even consume that much psilocin in the form of mushrooms. Pure 4-HO-DMT is a different matter, even though it would still take a stupidly tremendous amount to kill you.
Also, I never post replies to things that I didn't bother to read. And I'm pretty sure you meant "and is there a dosage ceiling"
Edited by Ok amoismis (09/27/13 10:40 PM)
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Ok amoismis]
#18901228 - 09/28/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very immature post, i'm assuming the Op is 15
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Cpt.Crunch
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I'm actually 19, but I can be a bit immature at times, especially online.
Sorry about this post, I was just curious so I asked. I will keep my posts mature from now on.
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Pretty sure I attempted to hypothesize an answer to the questions asked.
You answered my question very informatively, you taught me some things. Thank you for the info
Edited by Cpt.Crunch (09/28/13 12:47 AM)
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Ram Dass]
#18901351 - 09/28/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the following graph you can see the approximated decay of the mentioned 1000g worth of mushrooms. We assume that the active half-life is 3 hours. I created the graph by using the following equation found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_half-life .
Ct=Co*exp(-kt), decaying level of Mushrooms over time, plotted in the graph Co=1000g, dose entering the body. k = ln(2)/3, here the 3 is the time of the active half-life and the k is the decaying factor. t is the time in hours.

Here is the zoomed in graph and it can be seen that the level of mushrooms in the system is ca 1g at 30h and 0.5g at 33h and therefore Ram Dass is correct.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18901441 - 09/28/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A guy ate 500mg of 4-aco-dmt and was fine. If someone took the amount of actives in pure form that 1000 dry grams contains, I suspect they'd be fine if they didn't vomit into their lungs.
The person in question would black out, frequently vomit violently, and may experience seizures which may in and of themselves be fatal. They would remember nothing from the experience. It's common for people who take above 10 grams to not remember anything, let alone the equivalent of 1000 grams. With the amount of puking, dehydration would be a real risk.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: nooneman]
#18901472 - 09/28/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good question would be how the stomach and intestines would handle the pressure of the mushrooms swelling up. A 1000g (1kg) of dried mushrooms is a whole 10kg of wet mushrooms. I think consumption of a whole kilo of dried mushrooms is hard to accomplish within reasonable time. That is time before you start to trip hard.
Let say you cap the whole kilo, and you manage to squeeze 0.5g in one capsule. Then you have 2000 capsules to swallow. Let say one capsule will take 5sec to wash down. Then it would take ca 167min (2hrs 47min) to ingest.
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Re: What if somebody ate 1000g dry? [Re: Blind fool]
#18901478 - 09/28/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, there is no physical way for someone to actually consume 1000grams dry. I probably should have mentioned that in my first post.
Edited by nooneman (09/28/13 04:07 AM)
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