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750g mccormick poppy seed tea
#18898375 - 09/27/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So ive came across about 1000g of mccormick poppy seeds (my friend bought 3 of the 20 oz containers, didnt like the poppy seed tea high so gave the other 2 to me)
Now, i know mccormick sucks for poppy seed tea, but do you think someone could feel a large dose of seeds? Like 750g?
I usually use about 500g of the wholesale seeds ( just info about my dosr)
Btw im not asking dosage advice, just a general question about poppy seed tea
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx] 1
#18898390 - 09/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#18898399 - 09/27/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does PST really work? I've tried it but never noticed any fx.. Could've been too small of a dose tho..
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: rulesq]
#18898432 - 09/27/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rulesq said: Does PST really work? I've tried it but never noticed any fx.. Could've been too small of a dose tho..
Works for me if i use wholsale seeds... Never gotten mccormick to work
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#18898458 - 09/27/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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K. I've got a bunch of wild poppy seeds, maybe I'll give them another go
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#18898532 - 09/27/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recently purchased some seeds from a man in London. He discovered that I wasn't planning on using him to get the seeds, that I had a dealer in England. He later tried to sent me a message to try and persuade me into purchasing his, but I didn't read his message. I forgot that he was in the business for 15 years and he felt offended at my gesture. He didn't want me to tell him the truth that I was planning on buying with another person, that I had found a substitute for anything he could ever offer me. Thus it was unfortunate when I realized he was planning on selling them to my neighbor, and that in some way he will hold that over my head in future transactions. e told me he wanted to form a business with me and fuse our seeds from our dealers to create a new plant. I didn't tell him that I wasn't expecting my seed for another two weeks. The thing with the place I was buying seeds is that they never would send you the seeds right away, there was always a long strenuous wait before acquiring the said seeds. He got his seeds a week before I did, and in that time I saw him planting them in his yard, and I would watch him wishing I could plant that way, that in some ways I was studying his growth methods to obtain an indirect tip on new ways to grow. I never told him that I was watching him as he grew these plants. My friend said he wanted to invite me to a plant growing competition later that day, but his uncle told him that he shouldn't send me the invite. He thought that he should have sent that invite to this man in Cuba, he actually used to live in London but recently moved to Cuba. He became a key figure to attaining healthy abundances of high grade marijuana. When he was there he would instruct people on the most practical way to growing something without too much trouble. I found out his Uncle had recently sent my brother a message about him returning to his tennis club, he joined a tennis club a year ago, but for some reason after his first attendance noone saw him around much anymore. His brother also used to own a tennis club in France. His mother didn't know that he had recently purchased an entire club in France, but she did realize that he was the kind of person to do that sort of thing. He wanted to move his club to New York in three years, he had made a plan that he would eventually have to transfer his club there if it were to strive.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: drkkenny]
#18898549 - 09/27/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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drkkenny said: I recently purchased some seeds from a man in London. He discovered that I wasn't planning on using him to get the seeds, that I had a dealer in England. He later tried to sent me a message to try and persuade me into purchasing his, but I didn't read his message. I forgot that he was in the business for 15 years and he felt offended at my gesture. He didn't want me to tell him the truth that I was planning on buying with another person, that I had found a substitute for anything he could ever offer me. Thus it was unfortunate when I realized he was planning on selling them to my neighbor, and that in some way he will hold that over my head in future transactions. e told me he wanted to form a business with me and fuse our seeds from our dealers to create a new plant. I didn't tell him that I wasn't expecting my seed for another two weeks. The thing with the place I was buying seeds is that they never would send you the seeds right away, there was always a long strenuous wait before acquiring the said seeds. He got his seeds a week before I did, and in that time I saw him planting them in his yard, and I would watch him wishing I could plant that way, that in some ways I was studying his growth methods to obtain an indirect tip on new ways to grow. I never told him that I was watching him as he grew these plants. My friend said he wanted to invite me to a plant growing competition later that day, but his uncle told him that he shouldn't send me the invite. He thought that he should have sent that invite to this man in Cuba, he actually used to live in London but recently moved to Cuba. He became a key figure to attaining healthy abundances of high grade marijuana. When he was there he would instruct people on the most practical way to growing something without too much trouble. I found out his Uncle had recently sent my brother a message about him returning to his tennis club, he joined a tennis club a year ago, but for some reason after his first attendance noone saw him around much anymore. His brother also used to own a tennis club in France. His mother didn't know that he had recently purchased an entire club in France, but she did realize that he was the kind of person to do that sort of thing. He wanted to move his club to New York in three years, he had made a plan that he would eventually have to transfer his club there if it were to strive.
No ones going to read that wall of text. Painfull to my eyes, use paragraphs.
Anyway i made the tea, its light brown and bitter, those are both good signs.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#18899134 - 09/27/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: So ive came across about 1000g of mccormick poppy seeds (my friend bought 3 of the 20 oz containers, didnt like the poppy seed tea high so gave the other 2 to me)
Now, i know mccormick sucks for poppy seed tea, but do you think someone could feel a large dose of seeds? Like 750g?
I usually use about 500g of the wholesale seeds ( just info about my dosr)
Btw im not asking dosage advice, just a general question about poppy seed tea
Resident Seed-Tea Expert, here. 
And sadly, that's no joke. My stupid ass ruined a couple years of good clean time, and had a full blown relapse-to-addiction run, entirely with poppy seed tea.
To answer your question-- no one can truly answer your question. Sorry. 
There is good reason for this. The trick with poppy seeds is that the strength / quality varies drastically. I've had seeds were 8-12 oz were a good buzz, and I've had seeds that were 100% inactive, where I literally tried making a tea out of 6 pounds, with zero effects. Like, not even enough to keep the sickness at bay. I was pretty pissed off, too, considering I was addicted at that time, and in my clean phase I had moved, and gotten rid of all my contacts. Aside from the fact that at that point I was buying my seeds in ridiculous bulk-- like 20+ pounds per purchase. So I wasted something like $60-$80 on bunk seeds.
Now, at a different point, using the exact same brand of seeds, from the same store, in amounts close to (but slightly over) what I was used to using, I nearly overdosed. Weirdly enough, the closest I ever came to a true opiate OD was with poppy seed tea. And I am an ex IV heroin user. The stuff is not to be under-estimated.
I used to use somewhere between, I think, 8-12 ounces of seed, or so, for a good buzz. The dose that almost took me out was in the range of a few pounds. Over 24 hours of periodic vomiting, and extreme difficulty staying awake. Not fun.
So my general advice would be very much to start out low, and slowly work your way up. Fortunately opiates are not like, say MDMA, or LSD where you want your "attack" dose to be larger, as later re-dosing is less effective. Past a certain point, several hours, maybe. But it's better to play it safe, with this stuff. A little cimetidine adds quite nicely to the morphine, IMO.
Unfortunately, I can't comment on that brand, specifically. I've heard they're not as great, but I've never tried them. Way too expensive, usually.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22456749 - 10/31/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been using poppy seed tea for 2 years. It has destroyed my life. I have a wonderful husband, children, and home. I thought the tea was an "innocent" venture, and it started that way. What it did was eventually take over my entire life. I spent all my time seeking seeds, and thinking when my next dose would be. In short, I let it take everything that I am away from me. I eventually decided to stop and became so depressed I tried to kill myself. I am now working to rebuild my life and repair my family. I strongly, strongly, STRONGLY caution anyone thinking this is a harmless game, to take a deep breathe, think about it, and walk the f away. Its a losing game, you cant win. I have to take a drug test in 14 days, and although I just stopped using, I am very afraid I will still test positive. Does anyone have any info on how long this stays in your system? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22456969 - 10/31/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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rulesq said: Does PST really work? I've tried it but never noticed any fx.. Could've been too small of a dose tho..
Works for me if i use wholsale seeds... Never gotten mccormick to work
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: exseedlady]
#22457055 - 10/31/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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exseedlady said: I have been using poppy seed tea for 2 years. It has destroyed my life. I have a wonderful husband, children, and home. I thought the tea was an "innocent" venture, and it started that way. What it did was eventually take over my entire life. I spent all my time seeking seeds, and thinking when my next dose would be. In short, I let it take everything that I am away from me. I eventually decided to stop and became so depressed I tried to kill myself. I am now working to rebuild my life and repair my family. I strongly, strongly, STRONGLY caution anyone thinking this is a harmless game, to take a deep breathe, think about it, and walk the f away. Its a losing game, you cant win. I have to take a drug test in 14 days, and although I just stopped using, I am very afraid I will still test positive. Does anyone have any info on how long this stays in your system? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you
Bumps a 2 year old thread. Nice.
By the way, I used this shit for the past 2 years also, including pods. A few months ago i started showing signs of addiction, and havent touched it since.
So yeah, you can win. Not recommending opiates, and i feel bad for especially considering I'm an ex-addict (amphetamines). But it is possible to "play the game" and make it out without addiction..
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx] 2
#22457072 - 10/31/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply, but I have to respectfully disagree with you. When you say you used for 2 years, did you mean ever day, consistently, or a couple times a week? I would strongly caution daily use, as I can attest to the fact that if you are using good seeds, you WILL become addicted, and the withdrawal is pure hell. Good for you that you were able to stop as easily as you did, but I think you are the exception not the rule. I am aware that this is a 2 year old post, thank you, but I am looking for advice from someone who has gone through this and can advise me about how long this will stay in my system etc.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: exseedlady]
#22457113 - 10/31/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did the McCormick's seeds work? Im picturing the little containers that come in either a metal tin or salt shaker sized bottle.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: exseedlady]
#22457114 - 10/31/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Make a new thread then.
Believe me, i completely understand addiction. I almost lost everything to amphetamines.
I've been using opiates (prior to quitting) once every few months for 5 years. with poppy seeds, I decided once a month was safe. I found a great source with very potent seeds and pods.
With daily use, addiction is a given. I'm not disagreeing with that. My point is that you CAN use opiates for a rather long time if you space out your doses. Thats what I meant by "playing the game" and making it out without addiction (or atleast severe addiction).
The reason I'm specifying *severe* instead of addiction in general, is that it will eventually catch up with you. Personally, it took around 1 year and 9 months of using once monthly before I started getting minor cravings between doses (hence, minor addiction).
I then quit, making it "out of the game". I know opiates can be deceiving (like, you change your dose from once a month to once every 2 weeks, once a week, twice a week, etc) and its easy to fall victim to that. However it isnt hard to realize whats happening and give it up with pure willpower before the addiction becomes too severe to quit based purely on willpower.
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Did the McCormick's seeds work? Im picturing the little containers that come in either a metal tin or salt shaker sized bottle.
No they dont.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22457124 - 10/31/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Didn't think they would.
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I'm loling at my OP. 500 grams got me high, it would take me like 3 pounds of strong seeds now Its actually more sad than it is funny.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22457170 - 10/31/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm gonna try to grow some poppies this year. I've been wanting to try pod tea for forever.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx] 4
#22457920 - 10/31/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: Make a new thread then.
She probably would have gotten more replies / views with a new thread, so that is good advice. But I don't see why digging up this one should be a problem. No one is forced to participate. And IMO one of the cool things about the shroomery is the fact that we have threads that span years, or even a decade or more, and for the most part mods don't lock threads due only to age (like they do in a lot of other lame fucking forums.)
Plus it's kinda funny when someone tries to give advice to a 5-year-old OP. 
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xbloodwhipx said: Believe me, i completely understand addiction. I almost lost everything to amphetamines.
Yeah, that sucks. And please don't think I'm trying to downplay your experience (because you certainly understand addiction better than someone who's never had one) but in my experience, stimulant addiction is a very different animal than opioid addiction. Much more psychological with the stimulants, and a much stronger physiological component with the opioids.
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xbloodwhipx said: I've been using opiates (prior to quitting) once every few months for 5 years. with poppy seeds, I decided once a month was safe. I found a great source with very potent seeds and pods.
With daily use, addiction is a given. I'm not disagreeing with that. My point is that you CAN use opiates for a rather long time if you space out your doses. Thats what I meant by "playing the game" and making it out without addiction (or atleast severe addiction).
The reason I'm specifying *severe* instead of addiction in general, is that it will eventually catch up with you. Personally, it took around 1 year and 9 months of using once monthly before I started getting minor cravings between doses (hence, minor addiction).
That is a dangerous game, and I've played that one too, and lost. I think even once a month is pretty iffy, especially for someone with a history of addiction, or those kind of tendencies. As you said-- after doing it long enough you start to crave in between "scheduled" doses, and then the justifications start...
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xbloodwhipx said: I know opiates can be deceiving (like, you change your dose from once a month to once every 2 weeks, once a week, twice a week, etc) and its easy to fall victim to that. However it isnt hard to realize whats happening and give it up with pure willpower before the addiction becomes too severe to quit based purely on willpower.
It isn't too hard for YOU to do that.
Please keep in mind that everyone is different when it comes to stuff like that. What is easy for one person might seem damn near impossible. Playing with your brain's reward centers is risky risky business. You're literally changing the way your brain works. And in effect, your mind as well-- the very thing you're counting on to recognize the risky behavior and curb it.
I'm glad that's easier for you, and that you were able to get out in time. Many people playing that same game don't end up quite as lucky.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: exseedlady]
#22457949 - 10/31/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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exseedlady said: I have been using poppy seed tea for 2 years. It has destroyed my life. I have a wonderful husband, children, and home. I thought the tea was an "innocent" venture, and it started that way. What it did was eventually take over my entire life. I spent all my time seeking seeds, and thinking when my next dose would be. In short, I let it take everything that I am away from me. I eventually decided to stop and became so depressed I tried to kill myself. I am now working to rebuild my life and repair my family. I strongly, strongly, STRONGLY caution anyone thinking this is a harmless game, to take a deep breathe, think about it, and walk the f away. Its a losing game, you cant win. I have to take a drug test in 14 days, and although I just stopped using, I am very afraid I will still test positive. Does anyone have any info on how long this stays in your system? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you
Yeah, potent seeds are no joke. Pretty sure one of the times I came closest to OD was because of taking too much strong seed, and they also caused me to relapse back to opiates for the first time in years. And it all started because I could barely believe that it would actually work...
As for the drug test:
1- Detection periods will partly depend on which type of test. Urine is of course most common, so hopefully it's that.
2- For urine, opiates are out of the system relatively quickly.
Strangely enough, erowid is listing different detection times for "opium" (which is technically what's on the seeds) versus "morphine" -- which should be the major component of opium.
Erowid says 1-2 days for opium, and 3-4 days for morphine.
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/opiates/opiates_testing.shtml
Further, if it's one of the simple "panel" urine tests, they may or may not even be testing for morphine / opium, specifically. Most of those tests only look for a particular range of drugs, and the testing agency may be able to choose which drugs they want to screen for, in which case they often just screen for 5-7 (i think?) of the most common drugs of abuse. It could be they test for heroin, but not morphine. Morphine's not even that popular as a street drug, AFAIK.
Of course, if they were doing a proper analysis (not just a panel test) they could find a much wider range of substances. But it's my understanding this is rare. Any time I've had to do employment tests (or known of others) it was a lame panel test. But it seems like my suboxone clinic can find damn near anything. 
Anyway, if it's 14 days (and it's a urine test) you're probably ok as long as you don't use between now and then. And no poppy seed muffins. lol
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Wew, had my first poppy juice ever last week.
In the process of germinating the same seeds that sent me to heaven for a week straight. 
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S But I don't see why digging up this one should be a problem. No one is forced to participate. And IMO one of the cool things about the shroomery is the fact that we have threads that span years, or even a decade or more, and for the most part mods don't lock threads due only to age (like they do in a lot of other lame fucking forums.)
I haven't seen your avatar floating around for awhile. Do you usually find yourself finding...yourself in old threads you posted in? I usually don't get that lucky. 
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: Morgenstern]
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Morgenstern said: I haven't seen your avatar floating around for awhile. Do you usually find yourself finding...yourself in old threads you posted in? I usually don't get that lucky. 
Yeah, I haven't been coming around quite as much for a while. Life's been crazy.
And yep, that's actually happened to me on quite a number of occasions. The really weird ones are when you arrive at an old thread via forum or search (in other words, not in your "my threads" page) and you completely forget you ever even posted in the thread, until you see your avatar pop up.
Posting when stoned probably doesn't help with that. I'm sure I went on quite a lot of rants here that I don't even remember making. 
And I've been thinking of changing the avatar lately. I've had this one a long time. Not sure what I'd want to go with, though. 
Be careful with those poppies, man.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: CidneyIndole]
#22459847 - 10/31/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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In RE: to the OP question... No the brand name grocery store ones such as McCormick typically have no effect. You wanna go for the bulk, unwashed if possible.
What you're looking for is alkaloids, (IE morphine and codeine, the genuine opiates, not opioids, like pharms a heroin) the ones that haven't been washed off the outside shell of the seeds which is what'll get you high.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: The Moose]
#22460010 - 10/31/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Moose said: In RE: to the OP question... No the brand name grocery store ones such as McCormick typically have no effect. You wanna go for the bulk, unwashed if possible.
What you're looking for is alkaloids, (IE morphine and codeine, the genuine opiates, not opioids, like pharms a heroin) the ones that haven't been washed off the outside shell of the seeds which is what'll get you high.
Op already told us that.
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dude i haven't read shit I ain't got time 4 dat
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: The Moose]
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Thank you for the helpful replies, especially the timeline. My point in coming to this thread was simply for advice because I dont have anyone else I can ask these questions to. More than anything though, from my experience, this stuff should be avoided like the plague. I am an intelligent woman, extremely successful, with a beautiful family. This stuff crept up on me in a way that I cannot describe even to myself. I just want anyone who is even considering trying it to think long and hard about the kind of life you want. Just because they sell them at a grocery store doesnt mean that cant completely destroy you.
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: exseedlady]
#22460736 - 11/01/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dealing with an addiction is something many of us here live with daily.
You should look into Kratom. I was 55 when I first heard of this pretty amazing plant. I now enjoy it almost as much as (and with) cannabis daily... 
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xbloodwhipx

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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: vinsue]
#22462237 - 11/01/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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vinsue said: Dealing with an addiction is something many of us here live with daily.
You should look into Kratom. I was 55 when I first heard of this pretty amazing plant. I now enjoy it almost as much as (and with) cannabis daily... 
Welcome to the Shroomery!
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Am i tripping or did your post count go down? I thought it was 31,000
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LeningradCowboy
Yes, my name is you?



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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22462510 - 11/01/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PLANT THEM. Don't kill Dem!
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TNK
Pleasures of Africa



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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: CidneyIndole]
#22462688 - 11/01/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sid Vicious is a pretty badass avatar tho.
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Morgenstern
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Re: 750g mccormick poppy seed tea [Re: CidneyIndole]
#22463198 - 11/01/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Majority of my posts from years ago I can say, yep...that was definitely me. Some make me scratch my head. Oh, and you can change your avatar now. Just dodge getting a name change. 
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exseedlady said: This stuff crept up on me in a way that I cannot describe even to myself. I just want anyone who is even considering trying it to think long and hard about the kind of life you want.
Thanks for sharing. I could tell from the first time I tried it regardless of getting sick, that I'd be back for more. Extreme caution will be used. This stuff is something I simply won't pass up in this life and let it go overboard.
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