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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18898188 - 09/27/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Into The Woods said:
I think he's talking about AL-LAD :awesome:

It's said to be less of a mind fuck and gives a smoother trip than LSD, so that'd be my guess.




There's also LSZ out now which is more potent by weight than LSD.

My question is where did they get all of the components... and not know how to purify the end product. You have to be somewhat diligent to make Krokidil in the States. Red phosphorous is harder to come by than any drug and would need to be produced at home with a lot of labor.

The whole thing just seems like a ridiculous amount of effort. It would be a wise task to undertake in bulk, say purchase what amounts of 30g of codeine and bulk react it all. But to simply do say a script of 30x30mg tablets would be asinine.

It's a shame because they almost got awards out of the whole deal. Sept the Darwin requires you to die.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: PurpleHaze147] * 1
    #18898205 - 09/27/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't agree that opiates should be legal, that would be a disaster.




No.  Prohibition isn't stopping people from using opioid drugs.  Prohibition of opioids is ruining lives as is... incarcerating people , making it more difficult for people to get legit pain meds, and is an exorbitant waste of tax dollars that could be better spent treating people with opioid problems at their discretion. 

Not to mention creating enormous black markets that peddle impure drugs resulting in overdoses, needle sharing, etc.  And the cartels that control the trade murder people, among other things.

Several countries have decriminalized heroin and have not seen dramatic increases in use.  I highly encourage you to investigate this more before regurgitating the falsehood that prohibition of "hard drugs" is an obviously superior policy alternative.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: Society]
    #18898318 - 09/27/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^That would like quadruble the amounts of opiate addicts and ods. U can get methadone or subs without even touching opiates. They give out suboxone for freaking Kratom, it doesn't even show up on a test u can just fake the whole situation and get a crazy amount of opioids for a non tolerant user.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: Society]
    #18898348 - 09/27/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't agree that opiates should be legal, that would be a disaster.[/legalizing .  Prohibition isn't stopping people from using opioid drugs.  Prohibition of opioids is ruining lives as Kratom.incarcerating people , making it more difficult for people to get legit pain meds, and is an exorbitant waste of tax dollars that could be better spent treating people with opioid problems at their discretion. 

Not to mention creating enormous black markets that peddle impure drugs resulting in overdoses, needle sharing, etc.  And the cartels that control the trade murder people, among other things.

Several countries have decriminalized heroin and have not seen dramatic increases in use.  I highly encourage you to investigate this more before regurgitating the falsehood that prohibition of "hard drugs" is an obviously superior policy alternative.



This one guy in my rehab was there for Kratom. He got just as much suboxone as me and I was shooting at least 10 bags of heroin a day. I was so pissed he was sitting there just nodding away. Suboxone is Soooooo much stronger than kratom. He said he was doing $400 of Kratom a day, STFU he wasn't tho. 10 bags of heroin cost $40

The point is theres subz and methadone U can get easily. Anyone can get it. Everyone would love to be on an opiate, leaglizing them would cause an epidemic.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18898491 - 09/27/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The US has a pretty high rate of addiction and crime associated with it. I don't think legallizing it will increase the # of users but I do think that it would create more problems in terms of addiction due to reduced price which would in turn lead to more addiction related crime.

I am very much in favor of decriminalization of most (if not all) drugs so that people aren't jailed over personal use. The only way I would ever consider legalizing anything would be if there was a system in place to regulate it and also to fund the necessary treatment needed to deal with the addiction problems.

What I am 100% in favor of is more research and truthfullness when it comes to drug use, abuse, and risks. Saying all drugs are bad is stupid because its clearly false, it is the same as preaching abstenance. There needs to be legit research on drug side effects, counterindications, and overall risk and that info needs to be made openly available. This would eliminate a huge portion of the problems related to uneducated drug use.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18898843 - 09/27/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone would love to be on an opiate, leaglizing them would cause an epidemic.




You managed to cram two patently false statements into one short sentence.  I applaud your efforts.


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Re: First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Reported in AZ [Re: PurpleHaze147] * 2
    #18899481 - 09/27/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PurpleHaze147 said:
^That would like quadruble the amounts of opiate addicts and ods. U can get methadone or subs without even touching opiates. They give out suboxone for freaking Kratom, it doesn't even show up on a test u can just fake the whole situation and get a crazy amount of opioids for a non tolerant user.




I don't believe that there is any evidence that suggests that decriminalizing/legalizing opioids would cause a dramatic increase in users.  Nor is there evidence that the jail cell and criminal record are effective deterrents in curbing drug use/addiction.  In fact, as I pointed out, several other countries have decriminalized possession of small amounts of Heroin and other drugs without any resulting epidemic whatsoever.

The US population doesn't contain droves of people just wishing they could use copious amounts of hard drugs, if only they were legal.  The people who really want to use opioids for recreation are going to find means of doing so... methadone/suboxone, kratom, stealing, pill mills, opium tea, using prescriptions illegally, or probably the most common method, illegally buying Heroin of varying and questionable purity from sketchy channels.

Decrim/legalization of opioids doesn't mean selling Heroin at Toys R Us tomorrow.  It means removing the paternal government's punitive measures from being the bottom line of dealing with drug use in society.


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