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sandman205
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First Time Heroic Dose
#18897149 - 09/27/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi all, 3 friends and I are heading out to the country for a couple of nights and plan to do a heroic dose of mushrooms. How much approximately would this be in grams? We are all pretty average body build, bout average height. We all did 2.5g's a couple months back and are ready to take it to the next level. Also if anyone has any other tips for the trip that would be appreciated! cheers.
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zZZz
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sandman205]
#18897332 - 09/27/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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can you even measure a heroic dose?..
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: zZZz]
#18897361 - 09/27/13 03:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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5g+ according to Terrence McKenna :trippy:
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: acapuchinu]
#18897387 - 09/27/13 03:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So lets get this straight.....youve dosed once before an it was 2.5g? Now you wanna go out to the country with some friends and take heroic doses? 
Ill look for your news story in the newsfeed! 
Seriously though a heroic dose especially with other people "out in the country" has all the makings for a dangerous even possibly deadly trip. 
You kids be careful. Heroic doses are no joke.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Rewindicus]
#18897406 - 09/27/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heroic doses are no joke
this.
PSYCHEDELICS aint no joke sun!
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Rewindicus]
#18897454 - 09/27/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: So lets get this straight.....youve dosed once before an it was 2.5g? Now you wanna go out to the country with some friends and take heroic doses? 
I'm gonna go out and start looking for pieces of their ego
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: DeeBee]
#18897673 - 09/27/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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they gonna be fine
muhahaha
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Deathcore]
#18897718 - 09/27/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone is different. To me a heroic dose is 10+gr. I won't eat cubes at less than 5-7gr regardless.
I hope all goes well, great vibes your way.
Cheers.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sandman205]
#18897720 - 09/27/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sandman205 said: Hi all, 3 friends and I are heading out to the country for a couple of nights and plan to do a heroic dose of mushrooms. How much approximately would this be in grams? We are all pretty average body build, bout average height. We all did 2.5g's a couple months back and are ready to take it to the next level. Also if anyone has any other tips for the trip that would be appreciated! cheers.
2.5 can't prepare you for 5g...
try 3.5, then maybe 4, then 5
or try 4 max first IMO
but you could plunge into the deep end first too like you want ;-)
don't go outside on 5g..
3.5g can be pretty intense sometimes, so I would try that first 2.5 rarely does anything for me 5g is very intense for me, haven't gone there since
but I usually eat as chocolates, they can intensify it sometimes, dosing is different with raw it seems
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: lessismore]
#18897769 - 09/27/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Over 5 gm is 'heroric' for most people
If you have only done mushrooms once before, you are not ready for that large of dose in my opinion.
I would try 4 gm and see what you think. Don't let your ego get in your way and think you have something to prove... The experienced folks above are right, high doses are not a joke...
Trip responsibly.... You are asking for trouble if you and your friends are not ready and take a large dose... Higher the dose, the more important is Set and Setting
Don't underestimate mushrooms
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: HarryL]
#18897780 - 09/27/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are easily the most "dangerous" psychedelic as far as the scary places it can take you.
You'll be fine!
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Take 3.5
It's not "heroic" by any measure, but is about as fucked up as you want to get with your lack of experience and still be safe. Honestly I wouldn't take anything "heroic" in the wilderness regardless of my experience. You don't know the definition of heroic yet.
3.5 will definitely take you to the next level though
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ModestMouse said: Mushrooms are easily the most "dangerous" psychedelic as far as the scary places it can take you.
You'll be fine!

For me there the most easy to handle. I've never took more than 5g tho. Psychedilcs that take you to scary places for me are DPT, 2C-E, 2C-T-4, and Salvia, omg especially salvia.
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I recommend "cleaning out" 3.5 g first. 3.5 g is a lot more than 2.5 g. It makes a big difference.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sunshine]
#18899307 - 09/27/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have to ask, you arent ready for it
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sandman205]
#18899345 - 09/27/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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as long as your are safe, and know what you are getting yourself into, there should be minimal chance of a bad time. just make sure you and your friends feel right about it and be responsible.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: zZZz]
#18899354 - 09/27/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great call on going out to the country to take your dose.
One thing I can say about heroic doses, you don't want any "normal" people around to impose on your journey.
Just make sure there aren't any cliffs nearby for people to try and "fly" off of.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: FleshCap]
#18899709 - 09/27/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't care what anybody says, I don't see 5g's as being heroic O.O I've tripped on unweighed wet doses (estimated at around 100g) and I barely consider that heroic. Although my 7g lemon tek experience, that I'd consider a "heroic experience". I personally don't think you should trip with other people around if you want to have a truly heroic experience. Take 10g+ in a dark room, that's heroic.
Either way, no need to label doses for whatever reason. Just take the mushrooms and enjoy.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: eMpire420]
#18900095 - 09/27/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely limit your dose to no more than 4 grams. You will have an amazing experience and still keep connected to reality somewhat.
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Quote:
PurpleHaze147 said:
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ModestMouse said: Mushrooms are easily the most "dangerous" psychedelic as far as the scary places it can take you.
You'll be fine!

For me there the most easy to handle. I've never took more than 5g tho. Psychedilcs that take you to scary places for me are DPT, 2C-E, 2C-T-4, and Salvia, omg especially salvia.

Shrooms are easily one of the hardest to handle, especially when things go sour. The reason you don't see that, is because as you've said, you haven't crossed the 5g line yet. I've tripped on many different substances, and psilocin has taken me to far darker places than any other psychedelic could. Maybe this is dependent on the person, but most people I know who have done high doses say the same thing.
After you start getting into the 7g land, you have no control over the trip. You just have to let go and make it take over your body and mind. It's one of the most beautiful and cleansing experiences I've had. You just have to respect the drug and not try and control it.
Remember, you're in the passenger seat. If you try and grab the wheel, you might crash.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: eMpire420]
#18900687 - 09/27/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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the shroomery is a terrible place for advice on dosing mushrooms.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Apeman]
#18900693 - 09/27/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i beg to differ
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: zZZz]
#18904165 - 09/28/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay so take into deep consideration that you could lose your grip on consensual reality (honestly you probably will) so have healthy foods and water ready since sometime those things are absolutely dire to have. Remember, be safe which means plan ahead and make sure you have a place that is safe and comfortable to be at if things get too wild.
All in all have a good time and again plan ahead, I can't stress that enough.
Let us know how it went when you get back.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: zZZz]
#18904182 - 09/28/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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zZZz said: i beg to differ 
Maybe a few years ago but this place can be alittle "fratty" at times which is not conductive to wise behavior.
dmt nexxus on the other hand or erowid are much better alternatives when it comes to dosing.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Harri]
#18904215 - 09/28/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cheers for the info guys. Just to clarify.. I've done mushrooms many times - I meant that up to this point my highest dosing has been 2.5g and this was with the same people that I will be heroic dosing with. We had a great experience on 2.5g and are definately all ready and extremely aware of what we are getting into when it comes to heroic dose land. We have a nice little holiday house that we will dosing in, this house is out in the country so we wont just be in bushes etc lol.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sandman205]
#18904231 - 09/28/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh. A house out in the country is better lol.
Lock the doors, keep benzos on hand if the shit hits the fan, turn cell phones ringers off an put them away. People for some reason like making stupid trouble/drama causing calls in my experience.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: Harri]
#18904232 - 09/28/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first time I ate shrooms, I had 5g of dried cubes. It was incredible! Probably still one of the better shroom trips I've had.
About a year later, I ate mushrooms for a second time. Considering how pleasant the first experience was, I decided to eat 14g of FRESH something. they were either cubes or pan cyans... Holy fuck. That was easily the second most terrifying experience I have ever had on drugs, #1 being salvia... fuck that shit.
Everything was going good.... and then it got bad. Real bad.
I looked down at my hands and saw them begin to break apart into floating geometric shapes that were slowly dissolving into the air. It started at my finger tips and slowly worked it's way down my fingers, hands, arms, body, ALL. I sat there in a veryvunerable stateof mind and watched my existence fade away into nothingness. I'll spare the remaining details. I stayed away from mushrooms for a few years. I have come back, but normally won't eat more than a few small fresh mushrooms.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: sandman205]
#18904249 - 09/28/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep in mind that bad trips are contagious--for real! Imagine you all dose heavy and one of your buddies starts absolutely freaking out; like I'm talking beating his face with a rock. That sucks, and when your seriously tripping yourself, it is a rather difficult situation to deal with. The more people you trip with the more likely the chances are that something will go wrong--especially with heroic doses. I try and only trip with really experienced people at this point. I've been really messed up and had to pull my shit together to baby sit too many times. Last time was when my buddy went into convulsions (mushrooms and pot) and almost fell face first into the camp fire.
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Re: First Time Heroic Dose [Re: pslyke]
#18904380 - 09/28/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree. Ive never heroic dosed yet but i have done 3.5 grams a few different times and honestly a few of those times made me never really want to go past that. 2.5g's is nothing compared to 3.5. 5+ is just asking for trouble if you havent experienced anything close to it yet.
Ill throw good vibes your way but make sure everyone is ready. Ive had to baby sit a few times while tripping balls and it was a terrible thing. You have to keep your mind in check and also someone elses, its a lot to put on your shoulders.
I only trip with a select few people now or by myself.
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