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OfflinePsilosopherr
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: johnm214]
    #18876631 - 09/22/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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CidneyIndole said:
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Shroomism said:
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

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Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

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        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





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08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die









Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.



My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!


Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)


This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)


This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)





You illustrate exactly the misconception that made that a dangerous question: the LD50 is not "the lethal dose", it is only the dosage at which half the people die.  That says nothing about how much of a drug will kill you- people die all the time from doses of opioids far less than the LD50.  Its basic statistics: knowing the median doesn't tell you anything about the spread of the data.

As this example shows, not knowing what you're talking about and asking the wrong questions can produce serious misunderstandings.  It may or may not be better to ban dosage advice, but that's an issue to bring up to the administration- the rules as of now prohibit it.

As for the technicalities of the rule, he asked for a dosage to produce a particular result (death).  That's dosage advice.  Its particularly dangerous dosage advice because of the misconception he seemed to have that there is such a thing as a lethal dosage that can be determined beforehand or that applies to people as a whole.  As knowing the LD50 isn't particularly useful, and I doubt there's any decent basis for the published estimates, this confusing info is exactly the kind of thing the rule was made to address- hopefully preventing mistaken doses in the process.


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rbalzer said:

Makes me feel alot less crazy/biased that someone finally sided with me.

If the mod had simply said "edit your question out," I would have done it. Handing out a 3 day ban for asking a question (was trying to make it a ? within the rules too!!!) with no chance for me to right the wrong, just wasn't cool.





No, the reason you got a 3 day ban was because just minutes/hours before I had informally warned you to follow the dosage advice rule when you asked for a pill ID and dosages of buprenorphine.  I didn't give you an infraction for that, just closed the thread with a warning.

Then you did the same thing again so I gave you 3 days. 



I understand this.

But, I really felt that I asked the question in a different enough way that it didn't matter. And for a little while it seemed like you felt the same.

But no matter, tis all in the past.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18876634 - 09/22/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



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:whereismiddleman:



:lolsy:


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Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fee]
    #18895236 - 09/26/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp:

Don't quote this post, he can see it then.




Don't call people names.  Follow the Pub Rules.  Member banned for this post.
-johnm214






I got a five day ban for saying I could call someone a name.  What kind of dictatorship is this shit?

This is my 1000th post, and I'll probably get banned for posting this.  Wish me luck.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #18895238 - 09/26/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18895381 - 09/26/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.


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Edited by lifeiswhatyoumake (09/26/13 06:43 PM)


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #18895452 - 09/26/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't apply in OTD


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18895748 - 09/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.




You're*

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.




I simply said I could call him a name.  I never actually did.  It was a joke because we both have each other on our ignore lists.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18895894 - 09/26/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:ohyou:

You know that there's no flaming or trolling in the pub.
Best watch yourself, or them mods gonna getcha.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18896075 - 09/26/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:gocrythen:

MFW I'm banned from the pube.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18897143 - 09/27/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
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anunnakian said:
Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.




You're*

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.




I simply said I could call him a name.  I never actually did.  It was a joke because we both have each other on our ignore lists.



resorting to correcting grammar because you have diddly to say :whatever:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18897328 - 09/27/13 03:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown] * 1
    #18899631 - 09/27/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.

Mod edit: No flaming..



Wiccan_Seeker didn't do it.  Timmeh did.  I blasted W_S in the support ticket and apologized.  We also had a decent, respectful conversation.  Timmeh needs to go.  He makes up rules.  In the end I got banned from the Pub for a week and change by Geo for general unshroominess.  Fine. 

I am sick and tired of being accused of being racist by PC whiners who can't handle the truth.  Facts are not racist.  In light of Geo asking me to tone down my rhetoric I am not going to call any Europeans "ignorant".  Instead I am going to say that "they don't know a fucking thing about race in America".


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18899689 - 09/27/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
You step to someone and you get knocked down only a fucking coward reaches for their gun, especially when its a 16 year old.  Maybe in your neck of the woods that's acceptable, where I come from that person is a fucking punk.  Too many tough guys with guns in this country.




I've met you.  I know a whole shit load of sixteen year olds who you would be utterly defenseless against.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #18899703 - 09/27/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lol i didn't realize luvdemshrooms has his own smiley



WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS A FUCKING TRAVESTY AND AN INJUSTICE.  I DEMAND A SMILEY!


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18899712 - 09/27/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18899765 - 09/27/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

whole lot of jimmies being rustled in here.


this is fap material :beercat:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18899779 - 09/27/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.




Yeah that was a fun little gathering. We need to make that happen again this next summer.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18899819 - 09/27/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gumby said:
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zappaisgod said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.




Yeah that was a fun little gathering. We need to make that happen again this next summer.



I'd definitely do it again.  You have no shot at Enlil and I don't know where luvdem lives so that's probably a no as well.  But it would be epic.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18900486 - 09/27/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damnit, I need to make my way over to the NY area again one day so we can eat red meat and talk about cars with Gumby.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18900676 - 09/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't forget guns. We gotta talk about guns too. Freak out all the locals.


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