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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
    #18895638 - 09/26/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

True maybe I just thought sound could show you the key to the universe through sacred geometry.

That could just be my way of rationalizing vibrations through sound tho. Vibrations may be the key then. Every thought carried a vibration. Maybe sacred geometry is just like a map.

Its hard to explain but I was able to see how intent even had a ripple effect throughout our universe. Not just mine but everyone's and that's what the problem is this planets so fucked up. Like its going in the wrong direction.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18895678 - 09/26/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah during a trip i had bad vibrations which morphed into bad imagery and feelings..


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson] * 1
    #18895762 - 09/26/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Warning: opinions will follow...

I believe in spirituality and I believe in Jesus/god/hs etc. I also believe in demons and witchcraft...Shrooms don't feel inherently evil to me but I do feel that I'm more open to spiritual forces in general. I can handle my shit fine on most doses (highest I've done is 6Gs) but I can no longer trip around people I'm not 100% sure about. Gotten some scary ass vibes from some people that I only get when I'm either really high or tripping. Demonic vibes and such.

I had the idea that if God exists then he must have created all substances. Why would God create an evil substance? So all things must be permissible.

However, I've gotten the worst vibes imaginable off Datura (after the first mystical trip) and I feel like I'm literally opening myself up to demons. I get spiritual senses off it unlike anything else and yet I continued a few more times just to be sure. How could a plant be witchcraft? lol. I tried Diphenhydramine ten times...same thing. Just felt fundamentally wrong (again spiritual sense) and I could feel a demonic presence descend on me every time I did it. I literally felt like my defenses were just gone and I felt like it was something that shouldn't be experienced and that it was tragic that I had. I also felt that it was wickedly enjoyable and appealed to the darkness in my soul and is the only thing I've ever felt a draw toward years after the fact. I had random incantations come into my head and out of curiosity I said them and the spiritual oppression got worse, but I was literally creating things and that was unbelievable. I saw writing on the wall and hallucinated ancient texts that depicted rituals and more spells. It felt very real and I had never heard of or believed in any of the stuff I saw. I felt like it was magic (that's what I instinctively thought after my first comeup) The only reason I did it multiple times is because I didn't believe (and still don't to some extent) that a drug could possibly do that. Can't be real if it's a drug right? Probably just biofeedback that my brain interprets incorrectly right? Hallucinations aren't real and are just mental delusions? Maybe there is more to learn there and I'm just a pussy. I did get a spiritual clarity about a lot of things I'd never thought of before during the "afterglow" which I believe to be true...No idea tbh, but it kind of put me off my belief of anything that is natural must be permissible. Maybe I'll journey there again, but not until I'm damn sure.


I've gotten strangely demonic vibes off shrooms by themselves but mostly around sketchy people. but then I've gotten earth shattering meet with God experiences and experiences into the depths of my psyche that have led to many positive changes. I don't think they are wrong or that they are evil. My spirit always seemed intact even when my ego and all else had gone. In my most intense experience, I felt my ego and all things I had ever thought about reality die and what was left was my spirit and the Godlike nature of that. I felt like I interacted with God for what felt like infinity and fundamentally changed everything I believed about living.

I won't keep droning on and on...can't believe I even typed that out haha.

Tldr; No I don't think they're evil, I just think you are more open to spiritual forces. So take care.

Edit: Oh and the vibrational energy stuff all seemed to make sense when I went on my first Datura "trip" and I believed in it for quite a while. After a bit though I concluded that it's something we won't truly know for quite some time so I just gave up thinking about it lol.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Art of the Stone]
    #18895802 - 09/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No that's awesome gave me some really good insight. I can definitely relate.

If things start to go bad ill try to think positive and if that doesn't work ill shine my white light on their bitch asses lol


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18896361 - 09/26/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

art, good post its like you took my mind and wrote down the content..

i agree and heres a good way to sum it..

a shroom is a shroom..

a person is a person..

shrooms dont have free will..

we do.

the "drug" only shows us what we are..

our choices make us who we are.

shrooms arent going to hell.

so correct...drugs arent evil.

we choose to consume.

they do their job.. connecting us and taking us where we deserve.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Deathcore]
    #18896576 - 09/26/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea I can dig that for sure. Ill try and respect the drug a little more


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18898742 - 09/27/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Its hard to explain but I was able to see how intent even had a ripple effect throughout our universe. Not just mine but everyone's and that's what the problem is this planets so fucked up. Like its going in the wrong direction.




The planet's not "fucked up", and even if it were it's not because of human intent - it can take care of itself and has been running these little experiments (like us) for endless years already. Everything we think is important is more like a bacterial scum on the surface, and worse shit than what we humans are doing has happened many times before.  Doesn't mean we shouldn't be careful and all that, just means we really don't count for shit in the long run, and we can easily be replaced with something more interesting. :shrug: 

But your first thing is basically correct as far as it goes - what you send out, what you take in, what you process, is all part of reality.  Beyond that most people get it increasingly wrong, thinking that somehow they control what actually controls them. This is not a blue pill/red pill scenario, BTW. :lol:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Art of the Stone]
    #18898755 - 09/27/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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However, I've gotten the worst vibes imaginable off Datura (after the first mystical trip) and I feel like I'm literally opening myself up to demons.




Amen to that.  There's something about it (from my one and only datura experience) that goes right to dark without stopping.  Jim Morrison said it was the only drug he couldn't handle.  Interesting about the magical texts though - I get that from mushrooms a lot. :thumbup:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18902178 - 09/28/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PrimalSoup said:The planet's not "fucked up", and even if it were it's not because of human intent - it can take care of itself and has been running these little experiments (like us) for endless years already. Everything we think is important is more like a bacterial scum on the surface, and worse shit than what we humans are doing has happened many times before.  Doesn't mean we shouldn't be careful and all that, just means we really don't count for shit in the long run, and we can easily be replaced with something more interesting. :shrug:




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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18903413 - 09/28/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr. Anderson said:Are psychedelics a gateway to another dimension or spirit world. I felt as if I was being tuned by a vibrational frequency. Very scary experience lol.


It's the same world, there are no "gateways". You just got a glimpse of a much wider picture of that world than you were accustomed to.

And as simple observation shows, the world is both good and evil, because what's good for the cat is bad for the mouse. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that monotheism is doing us huge damage by denying the multiplicity of values. But maybe that's just me.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Rhizoid] * 1
    #18903519 - 09/28/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes they're "occultic" and evil :hellfire: :lol:

You just had a weird trip OP, dust yourself off and try again when you feel ready. Maybe take less. If 5 grams was AOK and 7 grams tells you that shrooms are evil and demonic, then that right there is your hint you shouldn't be taking 7 grams at this time.

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Spacerific]
    #18906632 - 09/29/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude its cool man. I was with a bunch of amazing friends this weekend "getting it" and I finally got it! I was blinking that eye like a mofo lol. Shits awesome.  Started with a smaller dose and increased probably from a gram 2 a few over the night. Man meditation is deep. This stuff is not for the evil tho.

All of its real.

The more you know lol

As long as you got nothin to hide tho. Its all good.

Its crazy cause I've been doing it my whole life and didn't even know.

I've been awakening myself spiritually.

Bonus round!!!!

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18906814 - 09/29/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The person who looks inside himself never gets sick

for he knows what makes him sick, his thoughts and his diet :wink:

but has sickness arrived you gotta take that with you

happiness is within from being yourself, so it must be ones task to find out how to be oneself most of the time


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18906911 - 09/29/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes people lose themselves and forget its there movie lol. With all the chemistry to play with an out of control personality and other unaddressed issues its easy to become ungrounded.

Man stuff runs deep. Everythings connected.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18907102 - 09/29/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yup lol

don't go too deep, everybody has something they want to hide from themselves

realizing your mistakes is the depth that is good to go to, so you can correct them and be happy

reflect on life  situation and thoughts

let thought go, be free

soon psychedelics won't be needed much, for nature/meditation/simple lifestyle get you just as far, but the difference is you can be yourself


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18907191 - 09/29/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm starting to understand that you definitely don't wanna figure it all out or the journeys pointless. Kinda just gotta ride the wave.

I'm definitely becoming interested achieving this without drugs. Even tho the drugs are fun to but the centerdness that comes with it.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18907218 - 09/29/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm definitely becoming interested achieving this without drugs. Even tho the drugs are fun to but the centerdness that comes with it.




Just be prepared that it takes a whole lot of work and a whole lot longer to get to those places without them.  OTOH if you only do it with the drugs then you only can do it with drugs and you'll always feel like somethings lacking without them.  Kind of a double edged sword, there's no easy way to go if you want to go there. :shrug:

Lots of people seem to settle for a kind of halfway approach, where they say stuff that sounds right and seem to think right, but when pressed hard it all falls apart again.  If you want to get to where it doesn't fall apart, you're gonna half to put in serious time at it. :thumbup:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18907633 - 09/29/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man and its cool. Ill do my best to be as positive as I can though and make the best choices possible. This almost doesnt seem like something new. It almost seems like its something I've been doing my whole life just never recognized it. My uncle practiced kun tao as a child so I suppose I did grow up knowing some of the stuff was out there but the masterpiece I painted the other day was getting closer calculating perception is very hard tho, many variables. Changes a lot like a flame. Anyone else able to talk in riddles almost like a secret language or almost communicate without talking but just seeing the vibes and knowing.

I was taught so many things by an awesome jedi friend of mine. We went over religion, spirituality, chemistry, physics, biology, relativity, collective conscious, twin flames, zodiac signs, astrology, sacred geometry, history, vibrations, karma, eastern philosophies, duality, good intent, bad intent, star wars and the force, mark twain books, stephen king, aliens, government, computers/matrix theory etc.... etc.... my friend was like wow you are a machine lol.

Definately was nice to experience this with others (:

Idk I've always been extrememly smart and regurgitate bs like there's no tomarrow. Everything is wat I thought it was. Practicing these things in a bad way can take a toll on ur physical body from what I've heard. Even positively.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18917097 - 10/01/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just wanted to follow up that I've been trying to keep this up by making the best daily decisions I can and trying to maintain more awareness of not just wat I'm doing to my body but how I'm affecting the world and others.

Started stretching in the morning  (yoga) and been educating myself as much as possible. Bought a crystal and a book on em n stuff like that. Got some sage too smudge my house and been making tons of little choices here and there but still enjoying some luxaries when I want. Its been so easy to. Its incredible.

Wen I start getting lost I try and remember "less is more" or "this is my movie" and stuff like that.  This really has been a life changing experience. Some can look away. I choose not to.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18917148 - 10/01/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr. Anderson said:
Just wanted to follow up that I've been trying to keep this up by making the best daily decisions I can and trying to maintain more awareness of not just wat I'm doing to my body but how I'm affecting the world and others.

Started stretching in the morning  (yoga) and been eucating myself as much as possible. Bought a crystal and a book on em n stuff like that. Got some sage too smudge my house andbeen making tons of little choices here and there but still enjoying some luxaries when I want. Its been so easy to. Its incredible.

Wen I start getting lost I try and remember "less is more" or "this is my movie" and stuff like that.  This reall has been a life changing experience. Some can look away. I choose not to.




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