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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18890291 - 09/25/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good to know.  Yea I didn't mean directly manifest things but I could see how its done through will and vibrations like a domino effect. I highly doubt I have the skills as of now anyway since I can't even accept death and such or haven't yet since I wasn't able to control that trip.

Ill try to practice meditation and try to center myself to just let go next time. I think that's an easier first step. Then its on to save the world :laugh2:

Idk when ill be going that deep again though. Ill wait til I feel ready and if I can't over come it oh well there's always next time lol


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18890455 - 09/25/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well good luck.  I've been trying to save the world through tripping for about 20 years and with a few notable exceptions its mostly a wash. :lol:

Zen practice teaches you that all effective change comes from within - up to the point that you see there is no difference between inside and outside.  I kind of get the impression that's what you're looking for, how to manifest it in the outside world.

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18890481 - 09/25/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea ita cool man. I just had a lot of questions cause all this stuff just came to me. I wasnt really looking is what really caught me off guard. I mean I always loved how it made me think outside the box and get very deep and philosophical but I never got a meaning like this that deep from it. Like really connecting a lot of the dots but then again that could all just be my psyche and rationalization. I just wanted to see the pretty lights and feel the groove you know lol.

I'm definitely gonna delve into this more but I have much training to do now. I am still young grasshoppa (:

Either way ill try to go about these things in a healthy manor. Too much of anything can be bad. Don't wanna become to obssessed but it is hard to look away after seeing some of the stuff and having those realization but ill just do what I've always done and try to apply what I've learned in the best way possible.

But seriously thanks to all of you for giving your input and trying to help explain these things to me. It is much appreciated. I will get back to you guys in your ratings (:


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18890596 - 09/25/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll tell ya what, since we're sharing here.  It can be just as hard to get deeply into it and find out things that you just can't forget.  The nature of reality is like that.

I'm a physicist by education and desire, and I've been chasing anomalous physics since I was first in college, almost 40 years ago.  I've found quite a bit over the years, but nothing that I couldn't make fit into what I already knew.  This last summer was different.  It started on a foundation of effects similar to what I've experienced in over a thousand trips so far, this time with awesome PE (in my sig, second pic) that took everything to a new mostly incomprehensible level. 

I made a couple posts at the time, just for the record, but stopped writing about as I did some more experiments along the same line and got the same results.  Reality was shifting into another mode, one in which impossible things were actually happening.  I didn't doubt my sanity, I just set out to try and document the brand new music I was hearing.  Then I realized I could write a major book based on this, and started working on that with the intention of following up the research side of it as much as possible over the next year or so.

Simply put :lol: I was experiencing complete quantum superposition states of significant (hour long) duration.  I ran into a particle physicist at a recent RenFaire (I run into a lot of people at those things :wink:) and we got down to brass tacks about what this likely was and how to study it correctly.  Curiouser and curiouser, he basically agreed with me about both what it was and what was going on.  It was obviously fascinating him as well. :thumbup:

So I'm at a crossroads.  It's fucking scary.  It makes no rational sense.  It makes full irrational sense.  My brain doesn't easily think that way.  Nobody's does, that's the main deal.  Do I work with it, or try to forget it, compartmentalize it off, basically deny all my research and interest, because it's just too damn weird to live with?

Be careful what you wish for.

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18890688 - 09/25/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks a lot ill be reading this over for awhile I'm sure. Seriously what disturbed me was it seemed like the reality feed back loop or something of that sort became distorted and the hallucination became real. It is scary shit. Ill try not to get too caught up in this stuff or at least not let it interfere with my regular life. But damn is it fascinating.  I only experiment with 2 psychs as of now and its been like that for 5 years and I'm almost 30 and those 2 are natural psilocybin/psilocin and dmt.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18890791 - 09/25/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bad things happen to good people. People may do things you think are bad but I believe peoples intent also matters. I used to get in a lot of fights and sleep around but I met everyone half way. I didn't start fights and I never lied to get the cooz. I lived "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" and had some of the best times and best trips of my life. A couple years ago I was with a woman, not fighting,going to school, working. During a trip I realized I was a fake piece of shit,devious and evil and the world was hell and completely separated from god. I was actually living a lie with myself. I wasn't happy. I had brainwashed myself and the shrooms rubbed my nose in my shit pile. The cold hard truth is we don't know shit! Turn your radio dial and you can go from country to pantera. Do we really know what happens when we disturb the most complex things in the universe? Not really . .  But it sure isn't a new thing! Just because its profound doesn't mean it's true as we understand it. Its probably overly simplified.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
    #18891140 - 09/25/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man I think the most true thing you can realize in and of a trip is that you are causing delusions. At least that would be the most accurate way to describe every drug experience I've had from weed to lsd (so don't include opiates, alcohol, or benzos). I straight up think I'm living in hell because why else would we be advertised AT and always being forced to focus on money. This train of thought would make my friends these horrible people who were racist in my mind and were planning on killing me; Arizona became a place for people of my color to be tricked into going to for death and the end of the world. Then I come down, WTF!?! Lol I gain insight from weed often too but it's like a 70/30 split of insanity to truth. It's pretty hard to distinguish between fact and fake for me while up but on the come down I feel rejuvenated having just allowed myself to go crazy a bit. That's when you (I) can realize the delusions.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18892576 - 09/26/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip :wink: (not that I understand any of them fully though)

I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed
when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)

nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow :wink:
they all travel at light speed

you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson] * 1
    #18892664 - 09/26/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I drank a bottle of johnny walker and then I got sick. Is whiskey evil?


NOOO! Stop dosing like a maniac!


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Asante]
    #18892679 - 09/26/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can always go so deep into your psyche it freaks you out (the unconscious is often unpleasant)

7+gs is your problem like others say :wink:

not sure I would do over 4g or 4.5g, but I usually eat as chocolates and dosing is a bit different there

know your dose

I don't like tripping on so high doses it takes 1+ years to process the trip, with <4g I can process a trip in a few months, but with 4g+ it takes years. If I want to do it, I do it very rarely (so as to keep an intact ego, it can be hard to interact with others without one, if you are everyone)


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18893171 - 09/26/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks wiccan I hear ya on that. I still won't try to forget some of the things I learned from going inside of myself like that. Its good to be aware of some of these things but I don't wanna become obssessed.

I feel like my ego is coming back to normal. Still with a few things lingering but its not so bad. I just need to remember hey who gives a shit lol

And mio ik exactly what you mean now lol.  I'm actually pretty happy about what I acheieved. I was completely unaware of some of the things I was doing to myself. I need to learn to become more centered and not let my addictive personality eat me alive. I have always been conscious of my health but I was smoking weed lately like it was going out of style. I could definitely see the addictive personality i have that I always just rationalized for in many ways. Its good to be somewhat aware of this in my eyes. But in the end ill try and remember who gives a fuck. It is what you make it!!!!


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18894545 - 09/26/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks a lot ill be reading this over for awhile I'm sure. Seriously what disturbed me was it seemed like the reality feed back loop or something of that sort became distorted and the hallucination became real. It is scary shit. Ill try not to get too caught up in this stuff or at least not let it interfere with my regular life. But damn is it fascinating.  I only experiment with 2 psychs as of now and its been like that for 5 years and I'm almost 30 and those 2 are natural psilocybin/psilocin and dmt.


Those are beautiful pe and nice little pagan axe dude! Is he guarding them lol




Thanks, that's Gimli the Dwarf from LOTR, he was a roadkill find in his original McDonald's wrapper some years ago. :what2: Now his job is to harvest shrooms bigger than him and just generally kick evil's ass. :lol:

Usually (at least for me) the sensation that the hallucinations are real is itself a hallucination.  But recently the veil of reality or whatever it is that keeps us "safe" from the screaming void has got a rip in it, and I'm tugging on the threads.  Carefully. :thumbup:

Enjoy the journey.:dancingbear:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18894569 - 09/26/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip :wink: (not that I understand any of them fully though)

I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed
when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)

nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow :wink:
they all travel at light speed

you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil




You can send a signal to the end of the universe just by waving your hand.  The entire universe creates that inertia. :lol:

I'm in a place where I need to assimilate everything that's known about QM down to its hairy little toes.  Although that's a big chunk, MIT OpenCourseWare is probably up to it if I am. :shrug:  Bitch of a job, ain't it. :lol:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Smeagol]
    #18894590 - 09/26/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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But it sure isn't a new thing! Just because its profound doesn't mean it's true as we understand it. Its probably overly simplified.




Oh no, it's not a new thing.  It's older than dirt, been around forever.  If you mine historical religions you can find exactly this same thing; if you practice Buddhist mediation you can reach pretty much the same states.  They're just as hard to align with "ordinary" life. :lol:

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18895033 - 09/26/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Relativity, QM, and string theory starts to make more and more sense the more you trip :wink: (not that I understand any of them fully though)

I like to think about why it is so easy to send a signal to the other end of space with the ultimate speed, light speed
when it is so hard to send matter with this speed (requires infinite energy)

nature must love electromagnetic waves somehow :wink:
they all travel at light speed

you can send a signal to the end of the universe with light speed with a 9V battery, a capacitor+resistor and a coil




You can send a signal to the end of the universe just by waving your hand.  The entire universe creates that inertia. :lol:

I'm in a place where I need to assimilate everything that's known about QM down to its hairy little toes.  Although that's a big chunk, MIT OpenCourseWare is probably up to it if I am. :shrug:  Bitch of a job, ain't it. :lol:

:peace:PS




True, gravity connects the whole universe at light speed, it extends to infinity
You pull on the moon with light speed when you walk, weird ;P

it's almost like the universe resonates at that speed somehow, like it prefers EM waves

I can't wrap my head around it lol, but it's an idea I keep questioning suddenly


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: lessismore]
    #18895041 - 09/26/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP focus on putting yourself on a positive vibration, and tell me it isn't real.

mushrooms aren't evil, but they will show you the evil in the world.

good vibes, may your journey to enlightenment be filled with love and light.


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Legend]
    #18895088 - 09/26/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks and that's exactly what I'm doing and I've been doing my whole life. Live by love.

The theories I was going on and on about where ridiculous. It went beyond gravity into sound. I found that sound was god and vibrational frequencies were what held everything together and geometric patterns created by certain frequencies was like the calling card or a clue to how the universe really works


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18895095 - 09/26/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should look into frequencies, certain can repair damaged DNA.

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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Legend]
    #18895125 - 09/26/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea I've heard that certain sounds can influence stuff like that. I've never tried it but ill check it out


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Re: earth shattering experience 7+ grams, are psychedelics evil??? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #18895598 - 09/26/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sound is a vibration. Heat is a vibration. Light. Radio signal. Well waves. mythbusters took a little machine that could shake a weight back and forth and that thing had a steel beam bouncing. It made an entire bridge vibrate one of the guys could feel several feet away. Life will confirm or deny it. Don't necessarily look for proof its true just watch.


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