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OfflineRewindicus
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Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!?
    #18894529 - 09/26/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I saw a story bout it just now on the local new. And I found a few websites talkin bout it to. Its so ridiculous it seems jemkemy.

http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/09/krokodil-crocodile-russia-flesh-eating-drug/


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18894588 - 09/26/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Been around for a while.  We as humans enjoy putting things on the back burner untill the water evaporates and the food is burnt.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18894661 - 09/26/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it's definitely real and it's causing people to lose limbs because of shitty chemistry


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: NWlight]
    #18894773 - 09/26/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your wrong is a great effective chemical, its the purity that's the issue

Do some reading


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18894825 - 09/26/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One the one hand, news coming out of Russia is to be taken with a grain of salt usually. On the other hand, I read a news report about 2 cases of it arriving in Arizona, so I'm sure we'll find out for sure.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18894834 - 09/26/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

With a script of codeine an a CWE with some iodine and other shit anyone can make it.  Purification is the issue.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st] * 1
    #18894840 - 09/26/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Your wrong is a great effective chemical, its the purity that's the issue

Do some reading



stfu troll, thats why I said it was because of shitty chemistry


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: NWlight]
    #18894850 - 09/26/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so jenkem isn't real?!!!


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: NWlight]
    #18894899 - 09/26/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
Your wrong is a great effective chemical, its the purity that's the issue

Do some reading



stfu troll, thats why I said it was because of shitty chemistry




:facepalm: no your just :facepalm: :stanhopefacepalm:

No its the chemical process not the drugs chemistry.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18894930 - 09/26/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #18894953 - 09/26/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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so jenkem isn't real?!!!




That's not the half of it. Santa? He's our parents. :sad:

Yet krokodil is real. I'd rather huff shit gas than have my flesh fall off.



NW, try not to mind him too much. I'm starting to actually feel bad for him.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895198 - 09/26/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Quote:

NWlight said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
Your wrong is a great effective chemical, its the purity that's the issue

Do some reading



stfu troll, thats why I said it was because of shitty chemistry




:facepalm: no your just :facepalm: :stanhopefacepalm:

No its the chemical process not the drugs chemistry.



"Chemistry, a branch of physical science, is the study of the composition, properties and behavior of matter."
His use of the word seems fine to me. If they did some shitty chemistry, than the chemical comes out shitty. I don't see why you feel the need to troll.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #18895233 - 09/26/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Can anyone tell if he's trolling or if he really is just below the "educated common sense" level of intelligence though?

He asked if a mountain can get so big it collapses on itself the other day.


Again, I feel kind of bad for him. Felt good to knock his aggregate weighted rating down from 2.0 to 1.0 with my rating though :naughty:

(he has me on ignore; I'm not this much of a dick if someone's gonna actually feel bad over what I say).


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18895284 - 09/26/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

why would anyone use this drug if it's literally known to rot your flesh? i mean cigarettes are one thing, but this? holy fuckin yikes batman.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #18895339 - 09/26/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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DebuteMachine said:
why would anyone use this drug if it's literally known to rot your flesh? i mean cigarettes are one thing, but this? holy fuckin yikes batman.




Ever gone into opiate withdrawal? I hear it's absolute hell and I don't think many of these people thought of the consequences when they were doing it.

Then again, I'd be curious if casual users ever tried this.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #18895478 - 09/26/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its not God damned drug

I'm not trolling how the fuck is this trolling? I swear you guys use trolling as aSynonym for "I'm a dumb ass so ill call you a troll.



5the chemistry of the drug is fine its the steps that are involved in the process that's fucked up.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895486 - 09/26/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Still can't tell if he's serious.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18895563 - 09/26/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Still can't tell if he's serious.



the signature of an experienced troll :lol:


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895740 - 09/26/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If the drug is impure, the chemistry is bad. simple as that. If they had a pure form of the drug, it would be good chemistry...wtf is so hard about this?


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #18895819 - 09/26/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its too wide of a term to use is the problem. 

We are American because we live in America, it does not mean we are all the same.

Its not the drug its the peoples synthesis that's the issue. The drug can be made pure. But its not.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895874 - 09/26/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What term would you use to refer to the synthesis of the drug, then?


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895902 - 09/26/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Its not the drug its the peoples synthesis that's the issue. The drug can be made pure. But its not.




It's the same with any unregulated drug that has top be manufactured, or processed. like, cocaine isn't necessarily bad but the shit people cut it with sure as shit is.

And who is debating this? and yes, it's a wide term. so is chemical process. Either you're trying to argue semantics or you've missed the point.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18895909 - 09/26/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You just said it.

A chemical synthesis.  Chemistry is as defined on the other page. You need to specifically state it not use blanket terms like 5-0


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18895935 - 09/26/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

like 5-0




dude, do you really not have anything better to do?

I'm 100% sure you are doing it on purpose now


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: NWlight]
    #18895965 - 09/26/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This post went full retard in record time. :cheer:

Keep it up though its entertaining :highfive:


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18895974 - 09/26/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a few members ignored because they are trolling me so I can't read their bullshit. 

I especially can't stand benzo junkies.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18896321 - 09/26/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Rewindicus said:
This post went full retard in record time. :cheer:

Keep it up though its entertaining :highfive:





.....Full retard? The kind that you never go?.....




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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18896344 - 09/26/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
I have a few members ignored because they are trolling me so I can't read their bullshit. 

I especially can't stand benzo junkies.




That's the best part with this one.

He called me a tranny and then thought I was trolling when I said I'm a dude, I'm just gay.

Maybe I'm using an overly-broad term tho :lolsy:


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: st1llnox]
    #18897431 - 09/27/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



Way better than krokodil


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Re: Russian drug crocodile........is this for real!? [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #18897666 - 09/27/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's not the drug chemistry. It serves its purposes to relieve addicts suffering with opiate with drawls but the side effects of the carbon chain entering the point of injection and mixing with a variety of other molecules create a new and dangerous chain.

You have elements, some have 1-8 valance electrons (get a periodic table of elements) A element must have a equal amount of bonds between each element. The problem is that when the substance is injected, it does not gain or loose a equal amount of electrons thus causing a unstable chemical reaction.... in this case, your flesh falls off.

I'm sure there are others on here that could explain organic chemistry a little better but thats how carbon based substances react with one another (carbon is anything organic)


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: dark3st]
    #18897703 - 09/27/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
Its not God damned drug

I'm not trolling how the fuck is this trolling? I swear you guys use trolling as aSynonym for "I'm a dumb ass so ill call you a troll.



5the chemistry of the drug is fine its the steps that are involved in the process that's fucked up.



Yes it is, it's desomorphine, more powerful than heroin. It's so bad do to it being impure. Unless ur talkin bout jenkem that's shit, literally.


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Re: Russian drug crocodile........is this for real!? [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18897741 - 09/27/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt purity would have less of a role of users developing rotting flesh. It's the side effects of this molecule on the human body before/after processing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine

And Jenkem, If people understood Solids, liquids, gasses and plasma. You'd understand that smells are just molecules.... When you take a crap and someone says "Man thats foul!" guess what.... the molecules telling your brain to signal that reaction.... they came from the tird in the toilet.

Chemistry is awesome :wink:


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Re: Russian drug crocodile........is this for real!? [Re: HybridprX]
    #18897755 - 09/27/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"desomorphine made this way is often highly impure and is contaminated with various toxic and corrosive byproducts"
No it's because users r injecting iodine


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18897924 - 09/27/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't mess with it.
It will mess you up.


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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #18897985 - 09/27/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Its not THE* God damned drug

I'm not trolling how the fuck is this trolling? I swear you guys use trolling as aSynonym for "I'm a dumb ass so ill call you a troll.



5the chemistry of the drug is fine its the steps that are involved in the process that's fucked up.



Yes it is, it's desomorphine, more powerful than heroin. It's so bad do to it being impure. Unless ur talkin bout jenkem that's shit, literally.




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Re: Russian drug krokodil........is this for real!? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #18898018 - 09/27/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Guys in the Vice documentary, Krokodil: Russia's Deadliest Drug, they show footage of a rehab for females and all of the girls look perfectly fine. One girl even says: "It's a skill to cook it right, otherwise you'll die."


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Re: Russian drug crocodile........is this for real!? [Re: s240779]
    #18898094 - 09/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is my English being translated to Hebrew and appearing as English on my end?

The compound itself has its own side effects, the reason the girls all look fine is because they are in rehab.

"Long term, chronic use"

Your skin falls off :wink:

Not a drug to dabble in.... Opiates in general are fucking awesome and gnarly evil. The strongest I go is a perc and beer every few months.

Anyways, I discourage any member from trying to brew this crap. Now I feel better and sign off in good conscious :p


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Re: Russian drug crocodile........is this for real!? [Re: HybridprX]
    #18898135 - 09/27/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What you're saying doesn't add up. You're insinuating that the rehab somehow repaired their skin.


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