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Calling dogs "rescues"... * 1
    #18894469 - 09/26/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IDK but I find this pretentious at best.

Like, when I adopt kids, I'm not going to refer to them as "Averted Abortions" or shit.

Plus, what's wrong with a dog being put to sleep? Chances are, you contribute to hundreds of animals dying every year just from your eating habits. :shrug:



Not saying I have a problem with anyone, but this term does annoy me and the whole thing's just kind of dubious or hypocritical at best. :sadyes:



I'm gonna buy my Averted Abortions a dog when they turn 5, but they're gonna call it a DOG god damn it :kingcrankey:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 9
    #18894526 - 09/26/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A dog isn't a human, and is worth far more than any human.  If we could put more people down, the world would be a better place.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 5
    #18894531 - 09/26/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Who gives a shit what they call their dogs?


Ya know fuckin slushies, why do they call them slurpees? It's about the slush, not the slurp. A bit pretentious. I think I'll make a thread about it :cookiemonster:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: gzuf]
    #18894543 - 09/26/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Who gives a shit what they call their dogs?


Ya know fuckin slushies, why do they call them slurpees? It's about the slush, not the slurp. A bit pretentious. I think I'll make a thread about it :cookiemonster:





You need some quality control in your responses brah. Slurpee vs Slushie isn't at all melodramatic and pretentious like saying "I rescued [my dog]" etc. like many dog adopters do.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 5
    #18894549 - 09/26/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 2
    #18894552 - 09/26/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're just angry at the world because you're bald. :haha:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18894562 - 09/26/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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gzuf said:
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quality control




:noyoudidawet:




Haha whenever I start doing dissociatives again, I'm gonna have to as well... the "the word 'been' is weird" thread is definitely one of the 3 most worthless threads on here.

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You're just angry at the world because you're bald. :haha:




Bitch, I'm the drummer for the most FAMOUS BAND IN THE WORLD. And I'm not bald, see the dreads? :rasta:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: gzuf] * 3
    #18894567 - 09/26/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Rescue:
save (someone) from a dangerous or distressing situation.

So it totally makes sense that they refer to the dogs as "rescued."


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 13
    #18894576 - 09/26/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's pretty funny to see you criticizing the quality of someone else's posts.  You are probably the worst poster in the pub, and that's saying a lot.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #18894581 - 09/26/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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A dog isn't a human, and is worth far more than any human.  If we could put more people down, the world would be a better place.



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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil]
    #18894594 - 09/26/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Rescue:
save (someone) from a dangerous or distressing situation.

So it totally makes sense that they refer to the dogs as "rescued."




I hate to say it but you've got a really good point there.

Can I still call my kids Averted Abortions once in a while though? :justcantwait:

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It's pretty funny to see you criticizing the quality of someone else's posts.  You are probably the worst poster in the pub, and that's saying a lot.




Why would you be mean like that? I'm having a shitty day and now I feel worse.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 11
    #18894603 - 09/26/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just because you're having a bad day doesn't mean you should use the pub like a toilet and dump your shit here.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: gzuf]
    #18894607 - 09/26/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I adopted my dog buddy, on occasion I have called him a "rescue". Most often I refer to him as a rescue because he is a pit bull and I have found it helps avoid the ole vicious breed discussion. Sometimes I call him that because I am proud of the fact that I made a responsible decision and adopted a dog when instead I could have been selfish and chosen a dog from a breeder. You can call me pretentious or whatever you like but to buddy I know I'm a hero.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: JamesSpawned]
    #18894623 - 09/26/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Just because you're having a bad day doesn't mean you should use the pub like a toilet and dump your shit here.




I don't. Plenty of people like me and enjoy my threads and my contribution to other ones. If your panties are on THAT tight though, why don't you try out ignore? :cookiemonster:  I hope you're a girl IRL.
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I adopted my dog buddy, on occasion I have called him a "rescue". Most often I refer to him as a rescue because he is a pit bull and I have found it helps avoid the ole vicious breed discussion. Sometimes I call him that because I am proud of the fact that I made a responsible decision and adopted a dog when instead I could have been selfish and chosen a dog from a breeder. You can call me pretentious or whatever you like but to buddy I know I'm a hero.





That's actually a very smart way out of getting into that discussion. Is pedigree a big thing with pitbulls, i.e. a common topic for dog enthusiasts?

I don't think I would have minded your particular version too much in the first place, and now that I read Everlong's point... Not bad man :thumbup:

Now if only Enlil could be put in a pound :douchewink:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: JamesSpawned]
    #18894652 - 09/26/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I adopted both of my current dogs.  I've had maybe 30 dogs and I've never purchased any of them.  Buying a dog is socially irresponsible.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #18894657 - 09/26/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Enil said it right in his first response


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: azur]
    #18894687 - 09/26/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can think of a couple people to put down :evil:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox] * 4
    #18894696 - 09/26/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd be fine with randomly selecting 6 billion to put down.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #18894897 - 09/26/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My dogs are "rescues" because they came from a kill shelter, and would have died had I not "rescued" them.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: badchad]
    #18894932 - 09/26/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bad chad you and the others have changed my mind. :nodofapproval:

I'm just happy your dogs have a good home now :awesomenod:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox]
    #18894985 - 09/26/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IMO it is a little lame to call your dog a "rescue." Funnily enough my wife and I actually did rescue a dog from almost certain death today, we were driving along and it ran into the road and nearly got hit by a couple cars, so we circled back and my wife got it to get in the car. Some kids walking home from school were saying that it had been out wandering around all day. When the people from the city came to pick it up, they said that they already knew the dog was on the loose because people had phoned in reports earlier, but apparently they hadn't bothered to come find it yet because they had trouble catching the same dog when it got loose on other occasions. :facepalm:

Beautiful dog though, gigantic male chocolate lab looking dog. Not sure if it was a cross or what but it looked like it was well over 100 lbs.


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    #18894997 - 09/26/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's pretty funny to see you criticizing the quality of someone else's posts.  You are probably the worst poster in the pub, and that's saying a lot.




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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: psi]
    #18895018 - 09/26/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I hate those bastards that only resucue one breed. like the golden retriever rescue club just lets other dogs die. :mad:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: st1llnox]
    #18895056 - 09/26/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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IDK but I find this pretentious at best.

Like, when I adopt kids, I'm not going to refer to them as "Averted Abortions" or shit.

Plus, what's wrong with a dog being put to sleep? Chances are, you contribute to hundreds of animals dying every year just from your eating habits. :shrug:



Not saying I have a problem with anyone, but this term does annoy me and the whole thing's just kind of dubious or hypocritical at best. :sadyes:



I'm gonna buy my Averted Abortions a dog when they turn 5, but they're gonna call it a DOG god damn it :kingcrankey:




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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: psi]
    #18895108 - 09/26/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I hate those bastards that only resucue one breed. like the golden retriever rescue club just lets other dogs die. :mad:




Eh, I don't mind that. Since a lot of those rescue groups are also "high risk" breeds.
To me it means they know the breed and know how to deal with them, especially if it is a strong, or working breed.


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IMO it is a little lame to call your dog a "rescue."




I do think it's weird to say rescue dog. I will though break that out when someone is talking about buying a specific bread because that bread is the awesome sauce.  Well I might not use rescue but will mention how I adopted my dog from a shelter.

I can understand buying a dog if you need it to be a true working, like on a ranch, or a seeing eye dog for example. Buying a dog for a companion is stupid.

Back yard breeders need to be punched in the face.
People that buy cats and dogs from pet store need to be kicked in the ass.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil]
    #18895140 - 09/26/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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A dog isn't a human, and is worth far more than any human.  If we could put more people down, the world would be a better place.




obnoxious QFT.

Stillnox, seriously overthinking this.  Like stop.  :tongue:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: ClockCode]
    #18895148 - 09/26/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So people shouldn't be proud of rescuing a dog?

Are you insinuating that they only do it is to be a pretentious douchebag?


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enjoywho] * 2
    #18895234 - 09/26/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Pride man, it goes both ways, and rarely is it a good thing.

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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enjoywho]
    #18895278 - 09/26/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Enlil said:
It's pretty funny to see you criticizing the quality of someone else's posts.  You are probably the worst poster in the pub, and that's saying a lot.




:kelsoburn:





I didn't even recognize either of you :lolsy:


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Enlil said:
A dog isn't a human, and is worth far more than any human.  If we could put more people down, the world would be a better place.




obnoxious QFT.

Stillnox, seriously overthinking this.  Like stop.  :tongue:




I think I was underthinking it given I wasn't seeing the action of preventing a dog in basically a luxury prison from being put to death.



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So people shouldn't be proud of rescuing a dog?

Are you insinuating that they only do it is to be a pretentious douchebag?





Of course not! I'm going to be proud I adopted my Averted Abortions (which is technically not very analogous because I and others who have/will adopt kids do not actually do anything until after they're not in harms way).

I just think the terminology was a little extreme sounding for what it really is... usually.

I think anyone who adopts a dog SHOULD be proud and FEEL GOOD for what they've done for the animal.

BTW I care a lot about animals; vegetarian for 5 years, and a recovering PETA member with 4 years clean :wink:


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: 4runner]
    #18895290 - 09/26/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its called a dog rescue because the dogs are put down if they aren't adopted eventually, thus you are rescuing them from death.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Uzziel]
    #18895312 - 09/26/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm only conceding because technically, by the definition black-and-white pyramid gave, it's technically rescuing.

It doesn't take the smartist guy hear to realize that calling filling out some papers and taking a kitten home "rescuing" is really toeing the line of exageratting.


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    #18895937 - 09/26/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They probably should start doing that. Less little bastards romping around shitting on everything would be lovely.


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    #18896370 - 09/26/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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They probably should start doing that. Less little bastards romping around shitting on everything would be lovely.





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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil]
    #18896538 - 09/26/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Buying a dog is socially irresponsible.



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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18897424 - 09/27/13 04:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Because buying a dog only encourages more dogs to be bred.  With 3-4 million pets being euthanized a year by shelters, there is already an ample supply.  Buying a pet rather than adopting one perpetuates the problem.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil]
    #18897592 - 09/27/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

According to the health textbook "A woman's body: An owner's Manual" 1 percent of women have their first orgasm with an animal partner

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    #18897595 - 09/27/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So 99% have their first orgasm with a plant or an inanimate object?


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18897627 - 09/27/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For shame st1ll.

I have rescued many a dog and found them good homes.

i have referred to them as rescues.  so what?  We rescued a pit bull, well she was aggressive and my lady refused to see it and she tore the throat out of my favourite dog.  needless to say i put her down there, so I may not have rescued her from much. 

But regardless, if you save a dogs life you rescued it.  and I love the term because there are so many people who could care less and send a thousand dogs to their death. 

Also, adopting is something you do for yourself, if you feel you're missing something in life.    A rescue can be selfless.  we, my lady and I, were once a family rescue, as in we kept taking in dogs until we could barely afford to eat because we had so many. 

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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: omegafaust]
    #18897777 - 09/27/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see the issue. I think it's relevant. That fact that dogs are homeless in the first place is our fault, and instead of getting them a decent home we breed more because we want "purebred". I think getting a rescue is an honorable thing


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    #18897799 - 09/27/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think think its pretentious that this is considered pretentious by someone who probably contributes massively to animals suffering and death


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: 4runner]
    #18897814 - 09/27/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Pride man, it goes both ways, and rarely is it a good thing.

Pride, $5000 pure bread. Idiot Douche
Pride, $100 adopted a dog. Smug Douche




Pretty much this. Yeah it's a good idea to get a dog from the humane society for many reasons, but don't expect a slap on the back every time you mention it in conversation. Similarly, if you shelled out big money for some fancy purebred, expect the majority of people not to be particularly impressed by your bragging about it.


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Pride man, it goes both ways, and rarely is it a good thing.

Pride, $5000 pure bread. Idiot Douche
Pride, $100 adopted a dog. Smug Douche




Pretty much this. Yeah it's a good idea to get a dog from the humane society for many reasons, but don't expect a slap on the back every time you mention it in conversation. Similarly, if you shelled out big money for some fancy purebred, expect the majority of people not to be particularly impressed by your bragging about it.




So every dog owner is a douche for one reason or another? I'd say people that perpetuate this idea have gone beyond regular douchebaggery and are super douches. Most likely you are the origin for the joke of having to tie a steak around ones neck to get the family dog to play with you, you lack the intelligence to entertain even a k-9.


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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: JamesSpawned]
    #18898155 - 09/27/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No no, that's just if they are flaunting the... this is my rescue dog or this is my fancy dog for attention. Context man.

psi understood what I meant.
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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: 4runner]
    #18898181 - 09/27/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it's the bragging that's douchey. My dog was from the humane society and IMO that's a good way to go. I just don't expect people to be too impressed by hearing that.


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    #18898226 - 09/27/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I see it more clearly now, I apologize for the hard retort I have a 4 day old infant and I'm a little more than sleep deprived. I also have a chip on my shoulder over having to constantly defend my pit bulls friendly nature. I pretty much sleep prepared to jump out of bed and tongue lash someone for their ridiculous fear and or hatred of "vicious breeds".
  I do agree that touting a super expensive pure bred show dog can be a little offensive to some it is very awe inspiring to see the true full potential of the breeds we commonly see. I don't have a problem with people breeding or buying $5,000 dogs, it's the people buying and breeding $300-1200 "papered" "purebred" dogs from uneducated uncaring "breeders".
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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: JamesSpawned]
    #18898561 - 09/27/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because buying a dog only encourages more dogs to be bred.  With 3-4 million pets being euthanized a year by shelters, there is already an ample supply.  Buying a pet rather than adopting one perpetuates the problem.




You were being a female dog to me earlier, but I really respect you for standing up for this.



I feel the same way about people that want biological kids with so many in foster care and worse though.

Call me an asshole, but between logic and having gone every year with my Scout Troop to a local orphanage to throw them a Christmas party, I think we always need to take care of who is already here instead of having a new one made or making a new one expressly or secondarily for us.


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I see it more clearly now, I apologize for the hard retort I have a 4 day old infant and I'm a little more than sleep deprived. I also have a chip on my shoulder over having to constantly defend my pit bulls friendly nature. I pretty much sleep prepared to jump out of bed and tongue lash someone for their ridiculous fear and or hatred of "vicious breeds".
  I do agree that touting a super expensive pure bred show dog can be a little offensive to some it is very awe inspiring to see the true full potential of the breeds we commonly see. I don't have a problem with people breeding or buying $5,000 dogs, it's the people buying and breeding $300-1200 "papered" "purebred" dogs from uneducated uncaring "breeders".
Again though, I apologize for my hasty words I am not usually a hothead and prefer civil discussion over name-calling.




:manofapproval: :kaneclap:

Although again, I think buying a $5,000 dog is socially irresponsible, but then again only about as much as buying a sports car unless this thing is actually that common. Still is in principle and practice irresponsible, but none of us are perfect (and I'm tempted to throw in a YOLO here cause some people really enjoy that hobby; then again, people enjoyed dog fights too :shrug:). IDK.

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Re: Calling dogs "rescues"... [Re: Enlil]
    #18899090 - 09/27/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because buying a dog only encourages more dogs to be bred.  With 3-4 million pets being euthanized a year by shelters, there is already an ample supply.  Buying a pet rather than adopting one perpetuates the problem.



Buying a dog doesn't encourage anyone to do anything other than what they were already going to do. I just got a German Shorthair Pointer who is 55 days old today. He is AKC registered with an impressive "winning" pedigree. He cost me $600 and with that I'm being offered a plethora of benefits such as knowing the cause of death for all his ancestors and exactly what health problems are ahead, what kind of temperament he will have, length of life and will have the opportunity to breed him later in life if I so choose. Not to mention, I know that I have a dog that I can train very easily; he is competent and healthy. My intention is not to brag, but to be open about it for the sake of conversation. The breeder who sold it to me doesn't operate a puppy mill or anything similar. In fact, he chooses to do what he does to improve on the breed. He loves all his dog and is selling them for the price he chooses fluctuates based on how much he invested into them.

I hear what you are saying, but I don't agree that a dog's life is worth more than any humans. With that in mind, I don't take it as my responsibility to adopt a possibly emotionally scared animal from the pound. I don't enjoy putting up with animals that are afraid or have a history of being abused; they are high potential cases for attacking their handlers, other dogs and even children. With a pup, I'm provided the peace of mind of knowing all the experiences my dog will have and what bearing or effect they will have on his behavior. I plan on never having owning any dogs except from pups that I can pick up at 7 weeks from the litter, spoken to the breeders, met both the dam and sire and get to see between when I pick him up to come home with me forever. I'm all for responsible pet owners and am against animal abuse, however a dog is such an investment of time to me that I want it to be done right the first time.

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    #18899140 - 09/27/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It would be logical to assume that you also think having children is socially irresponsible too, right?



I do.  There are already plenty of people on the planet.

Back to the topic, though: 

First, I disagree with the notion of an "emotionally scarred dog."  Dogs don't carry that kind of baggage.  That is something that humans project onto them.  Very few dogs can't be rehabilitated.

Second, purchasing anything increases demand which provides an incentive for increasing production.  I'm glad you like your dog, and I trust that you'll take good care of it.  Nonetheless, the more dogs that are purchased instead of adopted, the more incentive there is for breeders to continue to breed dogs.  In a nation where millions are killed each year because they don't have homes, that is antithetical to any utilitarian notion of maximizing the good and minimizing the bad.

Finally, it isn't a matter of judging someone negatively because they purchased a dog instead of adopting one.  It is socially irresponsible, but so are many things that we do each day.  It is impossible to live one's life always choosing the socially responsible path.  It's also not even prudent, since anyone who did so would be the ONLY person on the planet doing it. 

The bottom line for me is to choose what I deem important.  I'll take an adopted dog every time because the quality of an adopted dog is just as good as the quality of a purchased dog for every application I have.  On the other hand, I like a clean ass, so I choose to do the socially irresponsible thing and flush 3-7 times when I take a shit because I use a ton of toilet paper.


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    #18899186 - 09/27/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Back to the topic, I like a clean ass, so I choose to do the socially irresponsible thing and flush 3-7 times when I take a shit because I use a ton of toilet paper.




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    #18899191 - 09/27/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:cheers:

As always, you are a logophile who is very fluent and eloquent to purvey whatever point you may be trying. In this cause, your articulateness has persuaded my view of the issue slightly. Although I prefer I a pup, backyard breeding without cause or intention is more irresponsible than poor ownership, in my opinion. In the future, I will definitely consider rescuing for the purpose of bragging. :smirk: But seriously, I will.

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    #18900465 - 09/27/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Jesus, man. My condolences.
I gotta have glorious carne asada at least once a week or I get cranky.

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